Bayonetta Summons the Climax! Updated OT. - (Old Bayonetta Support Thread)

[JBRPG]

The more I think about Bayonetta being in smash, the more I feel tempted to to a Taunt Talk.

I believe I discussed earlier about the proposal of the taunt talk having some structure based on characters.
Unlike the last two smash games (Brawl and 4) that had few support characters with random ordering, Bayonetta's support cast is enough to warrant dialogue between speakers based on character categories:

Bayonetta: Characters with previous taunt talks (Kid Icarus and Metal Gear)
Jeanne: Females and clones (semi or direct)
Rodin: Villains
Enzo: Third Parties in 1980's (Pacman, Megaman), Super Mario related (Mario, DK, Yoshi, Wario), Sonic
Luka: All other characters that don't fit

If fighters fit more than one category or there is blur, more than one speaker can intervene, creating more interesting dialogue

I cooked up a few to get started:

Ridley:

Bayonetta: Hmm..I wonder how I feel attracted to this monster?
This one might be big and fearesome, but could also be
sharp and dangerous. However, I feel most for the monster
being clever, sinister, cold-blooded, and quite heartless,
maing him... Pure ... EVIL... I love it!

Rodin: He he..... You have quite a lust for Ridley,
the baddest space pirate in the galaxy.
When he killed Samus's parents a long time ago,
Samus and Ridley became bitter rivals.

Bayonetta: Oh... That must be the most tragic story I ever heard..

Rodin: Anyways, let's get to the tips. First, watch out for
Ridley's bouncing fireballs because they'll hurt really bad
if you touch them.
Second, Pay attention to Ridley's attacks: on the ground,
his attacks are strong but slow enough so you can
ambush or dodge him quickly; but in the air, they are quick and weak.
If you make a wrong move, Ridley can become a real push-over.
Last but not least, Ridley may be big, but surprising lighter
than other heavyweights. All it takes is a few strong hits,
and you can send him flying off the screen.

Bayonetta: The next time Ridley's down, I want to capture him
to become one of my precious demons.

Rodin: Not if I make weapons out of him first!


King K Rool:

Bayonetta: Who is this crocodile carrying a blunderbuss?

Rodin: I'm glad you asked. That is King K Rool, the
craziest villain in Donkey Kong Country.
He'll use anything to win his game.

Bayonetta: I wonder, does that gun fire bullets?

Rodin: That gun shoots more than bullets,
it ranges from fire blasts and spikeballs
to boxing gloves, clouds, and klap-traps.

Bayonetta: Doesn't this guy look too fat to fight?

Rodin: While he is very heavy, he can dish out some powerful attacks
from his body, especially with his jaws.
If you're fast enough, you can outwit this kroc and strike him back.

Also, he like to use a lot gadgets for his attacks, but I'll point
out my favorite: the jet-pack. His heavy weight can't fly him high,
but when he is far away, you can do a down-smash attack to score a free KO!

Bayonetta: That sounds quite useful. I've always wanted to have a trophy
with the head of that crazy kroc.

Enzo: (Panting) I hope I can still talk about King K Rool --

Rodin: Too late, Enzo. The talk's over.

Enzo: Aww... Come on! At least he appeared in the
Super Mario Baseball Game!

 

[Wolfie557]

Thanks for the support!
And am I the only one reading those awesome dialogues in the character voices?

 

[JBRPG]

I have made more:


Mario:

Bayonetta: Why, it must be the world famous Italian Plumber Mario!

Enzo: That's right! He's the biggest icon in video games,
and my family got into Mario ever since we got the Wii U.

Bayonetta: I wonder how does Mario fight?

Enzo: Mario is an all-around type, not too strong but not too weak either.
Mario can use his cape to reflect projectiles, his Fludd to push
opponents away with water, and do a decent knockback with his
trademark Super Mario Jump!

Bayonetta: Looks like can take him out using my signature moves too.

Enzo: Yep, especially when you can use witch time to slow opponents down
when they're close, but they can still attack.

Bayonetta: I so feel like being star in video games.

Enzo: Well, you're in luck because not only that you are in Smash Bros
as a fighter, but also got a stage, some music, and we even are part
of the fighter talks, with you as the hostess. What more could
you really want?


Link:

Bayonetta: Who is that handsome warrior with very pointy ears?

Luka: That is Link, the hero of Hyrule with the Triforce of Courage.
He primarily fights with the Master Sword, but carries a few items to
help him in battle.
His boomerang does not just return to the owner, but also carries anything
that falls into it.
He can use bombs as ranged weapon, but if you can catch and toss it back
quickly before it explodes, the onwer will take damage instead of you.
What makes Link unique is is shield. As long as he stands still,
Almost any projectile can be reflected, albeit in a limited range.

Bayonetta: Tell me more about his swordplay.

Luka: While Link may be little heavier in the middle-range, he can
perform some powerful moves with his sword.
His up special is versatile as he can charge his sword for a powerful
spin attack. When used in the air, it gives Link decent recovery while
dealing less damage. Also, Link can attack opponents from above with
the downthrust, allowing him to bounce upon a successful hit while pushing
oponnents downwards. His downthrust becomes risky when used on empty space,
either scoring a KO or losing when he misses.

Bayonetta: I wonder if Link would ever been afraid of anything evil?

Luka: Well, I doubt it because any Link can overcome
fears by fighting them, except for chickens if he attacks them.


Toon Link:

Bayonetta: Hm... I thought I seen Link, but this one looks quite different.

Jeanne: That is Toon Link, hero of the winds. While both Link and Toon Link
have similar moves and clothing, Toon link has a few differnces that
make them stand apart.
Toon link is smaller and lighter, allowing him to go faster
at a cost of reduced strength.
Unlike Link's bommerang, Toon Link's does not catch anything,
but can thrown farther.
Toon Link's up special pushes him higher, but his sword
gives less damage than Link, especailly when used on the ground.
Toon Link's bomb has bigger blast radius but deals less damage.
Toon Link's downtrhust makes him fall faster to the ground and
pierces through any opponent he hits.
Most importantly, due to Toon Link having smaller legs,
He relies more on swordplay compared to the mainstream counterpart.

Bayonetta: I guess its much better having two different links
than having one, or else he would be too much of a clone.

 

[SSBCandidates]

Those conversations look great! At times I wonder if Bayonetta gets in, who would be her AT? Jeanne? Luka, Rodin, Loki or Enzo?

 

[Wolfie557]

Those conversations look great! At times I wonder if Bayonetta gets in, who would be her AT? Jeanne? Luka, Rodin, Loki or Enzo?

Would like Balder.

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

Would like Balder.

I think the Masked Lumen Sage would be a better idea as to avoid spoilers

 

[Wolfie557]

I think the Masked Lumen Sage would be a better idea as to avoid spoilers

Ya I guess it makes more sense that way. Plus it sounds cooler.

 

[JBRPG]

I made a few more:

Bowser:

Bayonetta: I remember using this monster when I signed contract with Nintendo.

Enzo: That monster is Bowser, king of the Koopas. He is Nintendo's
most friendly bad guy in the Mario Series. He is usually is known
for kidnapping (gets grabbed) --- HEY!

Rodin: Sorry, Enzo. Since Bowser's the bad guy, it's my turn to talk.
(tosses enzo off the dialogue screen)

Enzo (background): Whoah... (crashes)

Bayonetta holds her laughter with her hand.

Rodin: Anyways, Bowser is an all-around heavyweight.
While slower than middleweights, his athletic build makes him
nearly the fastest heavyweight in Smash.
Beware of his fire breath because if you get caught, he can dish out
dirtier attacks. Also, make sure to look above you since Bowser can use
his down special to lauch is victims high in the sky,
if you don't dodge quickly.

Bayonetta: Is that all Bowser can do?

Rodin: Just wait until Bowser grabs the smash ball. He will transform
to Giga Bowser upon use, making him as powerful and fearsome as
an infernal demon!

Bayonetta: No wonder I am stuck with his regular form in my adventures.
If I was allowed to use Giga Bowser, he would have been quite useful
against some giant angels.

Rodin: He-He-Hehh... We can all dream of that happening.


Captain Falcon:

Bayonetta: Who is this strong man weaing a helmet?

Luka: That is Captain Falcon, pilot of the Blue Falcon #07
from the F-Zero series.

Bayonetta: I's sure he got plenty of traning to earn himself
a muscular look.

Luka: You bet, because his lean body allows him to run fast,
but fall really fast too. Captain Falcon uses mixed martial arts
as his main form of combat. If any opponent doesn't dodge quickly,
Captain Falcon can use combos to rack up damage quickly.
But he has some surprises besides the fast attacks.
For instance, his up special allows him to grab opponents
so he can get a boost by tossing opponents downwards.
Also, he can use his special attack to perform the
the powerful Falcon Punch after a short delay.

Bayonetta: I'll make sure to give him a wicked kick before he can get
back on the stage.

Luka: Finally, when Captain Falcon grabs the smash ball, he can summon
his Blue Falcon to run over opponents with deadly knockback.

Bayonetta: That only makes me more intersted in that piolt. If I decide
to join F-Zero, I would want to chase my date with Captain Falcon.

Luka: Uh... I hope you don't mean kicking Falcon off the race.


Ganondorf:

Bayonetta: Don't tell me you're not the only man of the dark.

Rodin: Well, I'm not alone, but that other one is Ganondorf,
the tyrant of Hyrule with Triforce of Power.

Jeanne: He was once a clone of Captain Falcon, abeit slower, heavier,
and stronger.

Rodin: Ganondorf uses dark magic to aid him in combat.

Jeanne: However, Ganondorf's greater strength has a trade-off with
longer delay, like his special attack.

Rodin: When Ganondorf is close to the stage and sees opponents
recovering, it takes a well-timed attack to score a KO.

Jeanne: However, Ganondorf's heavy weight makes himd more prone
to vertical attacks in open space as well as having low recovery
moves.

Rodin: When Ganondorf uses the smash ball, he transforms into a beast
so he can ram opponents to the ground and force them out
with high knockback.

Jeanne: If there was a race between Beast Gannon and Blue Falcon,
I will bet that the captain would win.

Rodin: Hey.. Wait a minute, how did you sneak up behind the devil?

Bayonetta: Now now... You two put up such a lovely talk that it's better
with you guys together.

Jeanne: I guess that makes sense..

Rodin: I'll forgive since I was playin' with both of ya.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I didn't know this existed, if this doesn't show that Kamiya and Sakurai are close, then I don't know what does.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I didn't know this existed, if this doesn't show that Kamiya and Sakurai are close, then I don't know what does.

But that still doesn't stop him from insulting Smash fans' mothers or banning them from his Twitter account. Again, his followers can get annoying at times and I can't blame the guy for getting put up with it.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Well, Kamiya is just a troll on Twitter. Insulting the Smash fanbase doesn't stop him from saying he would be honored to have one of his characters in Smash.

 

[JBRPG]

I didn't know this existed, if this doesn't show that Kamiya and Sakurai are close, then I don't know what does.

That is quite an impressive photo. NO doubt he liked Kamiya's games such as Wonderful 101, which has trophies.

Well, Kamiya is just a troll on Twitter. Insulting the Smash fanbase doesn't stop him from saying he would be honored to have one of his characters in Smash.

Perhaps it might be effective for Kamiya to use his trolling skills and be silent until Bayonetta actually is playable for Smash 5 and yell out "GOTCHYA! You thought Bayonetta wouldn't make it!"

 

[Wolfie557]

I didn't know this existed, if this doesn't show that Kamiya and Sakurai are close, then I don't know what does.

Didn't he visit PG* like last year or within a year ago?

Looking really good but I don't think the friendship is as good as with Kojima.

Also, in 2013 Kamiya said this: (so they must have met/talked close to development......maybe......ok I'm stretching this for miles.)

“So it’s not something that I could comment on. In fact, you could probably ask Mr.Sakurai! If Mr.Sakurai wanted to put her in the game it probably would happen and I’d be more than happy to!” - Hideki Kamiya, 2013.

But that still doesn't stop him from insulting Smash fans' mothers or banning them from his Twitter account. Again, his followers can get annoying at times and I can't blame the guy for getting put up with it.

Still remember when he replied nicely to me a week ago. I felt like I was talking to him in person but only for a second lol. <3

 

[Ixbran]

The official PlatinumGames twitter account recently just posted something really awesome~

Acceptance doesn't seem to like cosplay as much as Bayonetta does. Art by PG character modeler Eiji Funahashi.

Click for Bigger​

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

The official PlatinumGames twitter account recently just posted something really awesome~

Click for Bigger​

Bayonetta confirmed for Smash shoo-in!

 

[Wolfie557]

Bayonetta confirmed for Smash shoo-in!

Set it as my wallpaper lol.

 

[JBRPG]

Here are some more. I explored whatever is donkey-kong related. Plus the first guest from Brawl, Snake

Solid Snake:

Spoiler

Snake: Colonel, I am encounting a new enemy. Can you give me more info?
That one looks quite seductive.

Colonel: Watch out, Snake. You are fighting against a powerful woman
named Bayonetta. She uses mixed martial arts
along with an arsenal of weapons including guns, swords,
and others. She also uses magic in form of Umbra Witchcraft.
Bayonetta's unique power is the moon pearl meter.
She can fill it by dealing damage. However, her meter can be emptied
when she takes damage. When moon power is full,
she can activate it to give a great deal of damage
by using wicked smash attacks or torture toss.

Snake: Man.. that witch gives me the creeps.

Colonel: Be brave, Snake, you can fight her back by using
various weapons and tactical combat to build up damage, then use
a strong attack to send her off the screen.
Good luck out there, and I gotta go. (Transmission Cut)

Snake: Colonel, wait... COLONEL!!!

Bayonetta: Oh.. My.. I think I found a perfect match.
We share many things in common. Deadly toys, guns,
combo attacks, and quite fair skin.
My secret is that I too can become a snake...

(Poof! Transform into Snake Within)
Settle down on my scaly body, and I'll cuddle you
up quite nicely. I promis it won't hurt..

Snake: I can't take this! Get away from me! Arrghh!! (runs off dialogue)

Bayonetta: Oh dear... It seems that I always having trouble
finding a mate, especially when I use transformations.

Wario:

Spoiler

Bayonetta: Ugh... Where is that nasty odor coming from?
Enzo, have you been eating smelly italian food again?

Enzo: What? No stinkin' way! If you wanna know who caused it,
it's from that greedy garlic-grubbing scumbag Wario.

Bayonetta: That man seems to remind me of you by the way you
behave.

Enzo: Ha! Unlike Wario, I'm pretty happy in how much I earn for my family.
However, let's focus on mr moneybags with that wicked stache.
Don't judge him by his fatty look because he can brisk pretty fast.
Wario can pack a few strong attacks when done very close.
Wario can use his motor bike to do various things
from running over opponents and popping a wheelie to jumping it off
and throwing it.
And here comes the more bizzare stuff about Wario.

Bayonetta: I think I know where that is going.....

Enzo: Wario can eat anything, especially when they give a little
healing and damage boost. If anyone gets caught in Wario's mouth,
it's quite painful with a hint of garlic.
To add insult to injury, he can do a Wario Waft, a fart attack
that only gets stronger when holding it in. At full power,
he litterly blasts off like a rocket and sends opponents flying
with a horrible stench. Don't even get me started on his final smash
transformation Wario Man, where he pulls off more ridiculous attacks.
I'm much better off not having super powers anyways.

Bayonetta: And I think I'll give Wario a good scrubbing
so that he becomes more attractive without that awful
hygine.

Enzo (Laughing): Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Oh boy! I would love to see
pictures of Wairo getting all cleaned up in the bathtub.
That would really make my day.

Zelda:

Spoiler

Bayonetta: That woman sure knows how to dress like a royal subject.

Jeanne: That is Princess Zelda,
ruler of Hyrule and bearer of the Triforce of Wisdom.
She not only knows how to protect her homeland,
but is very smart in using magic for attacks.

Bayonetta: I curious on how Zelda uses her magic?

Jeanne: When Zelda casts Naryu's love, it doubles as a close-range
hitter and reflector. Din's Fire allows her to move her fire orb
and explodes by surprise. Faroe's wind allow her to
teleport from one place to another, but those unlucky enough
to land in her next spot will take decent damage with strong knockback.
Zelda can also conjure a phantom knight, which not only acts as a shield,
but can strike opponents very hard if they stand in its way.
Finally, Zelda can use her lightning kick to send opponents
away horizontally while in the air.

Bayonetta: I wonder does her long dress slow her down?

Jeanne: That's correct, Cereza. While Zelda has powerful magic attacks,
she suffers from slow mobility and lighter weight, which makers her
suspect to combo or strong smash attacks. I am sure that either of us
can take advantage of that.

Bayonetta: Well it looks like its magic against magic. I'll give
Zelda a second-hand taste from the powers of Umbra Witchcraft.

Donkey Kong:

Spoiler

Bayonetta: Looks like we got a big gorilla here, and has quite a jungle-ish
arouma with a hint of bananas.

Enzo: Oh.. Yes! That is Donkey Kong. He was first introduced as
Mario's rival back in 1981,
but then ever since 1994, he became a hero of jungle in Donkey Kong Country.
This ape may be heavy, but he moves surpisingly fast that he can keep up
up with other lighweight fighters.
Donkey Kong has plenty of attacks with good reach, ranging from jabs
to powerful punches.
However, he is not without flaws. Because of his heavy weight and
fast falling speed, he has very little recovery vertically, but otherwise can
use is up special, Spinning Kong, to travel a good distance horizontally.

Bayonetta: Enzo... you might want to look behind you.

DK: (dk gorilla noises with curiosity) Ha-hooo......

Enzo: Oh, and here's the last thing to know about him.
When Donkey Kong grabs a fighter, he can carry it and still move around,
allowing him more options to score some KO's.
(DK grabs enzo and turns his back, carrying him off the "stage")
Hey! I'm not Mario! Put me down you hairy ape! Help! Help!!!!

Bayonetta: Have fun with your new playmate!

Diddy Kong:

Spoiler

Bayonetta: Hm... I remember seeing a dressed-up spidermonkey
at a peanut stand near a circus in London when touring through
the United Kingdom.

Enzo: Well, you're in luck because there's another spidermonkey
named Diddy Kong, Donkey Kong's nephew and helpful sidekick.
He happens to be a very fast fighter with light weight.
However, the majority of his attacks range from being weak to decent
in terms of dealing damage.
However, his main strength lies in combo attacks, which
can be aided by various throws and his Monkey Flip, which him
to pummel opponents downawrds or sideways depending on where he kicks.

Bayonetta: Well, does Diddy act, in any way, like a circus clown?

Enzo: Well he has a few singature moves that can become deadly.
Diddy can shoot peanuts from his popgun, but if held for too long,
it will backfire by damaging anyone close to the explosion,
including that monkey. Diddy's Rocketbarrel Boost can fly him very far,
but it requires quick planning or else he's toast.
Finally, beware of his banana peels since they can trip opponents
if they do not pick up and toss them quickly.

Bayonetta: It seems that you might be a good partner for Diddy Kong,
especially if he wants to entertain you.

Enzo: No Friggin' Way! Clowns are for bozos,
and I make more money than them anyways.

Dixie Kong:

Spoiler

Bayonetta: So we have a girl-monkey this time?

Enzo: That is Dixie Kong, Diddy Kong's girlfriend and member of the DK Crew.
I really wanna take a break from this monkey business.
Jeanne, take over Dixie for me!

Jeanne: Anyways... Dixie Kong shares only a few traits from Donkey and Diddy
Kong, like fast speed and varied attacks.
However, she has her own flavor of moves with her pony-tail hair.
She can use it to do various thing from lashing and leaping
to twirling and grabbing. We'll have to do our best to not get
tangled up in Dixie's attacks.

Bayonetta: Good point because I don't want her to ruin my hairdo.

Jeanne: Let's continue shall we?
She learns a few moves from Donkey Kong by using her hands and feet
as finishing moves while using her hair as a start-up for some powerful attacks.
She can also do a helicopter hair attack, albeit with stronger lift
in exchange for weaker damage.
Like Diddy Kong, she can perform some acrobatic moves,
especially when her hair plays a large role in setting up some combos.
Also, watch out for her gumball pop-gun, which can slow down opponents
if they happen to touch that mess on the floor. When that gun charges up at
full power, a big bubble burst would make their movement a lot more sticky.

(Dixie Kong sneaks behind Bayonetta with a snicker, and pops a big bubble
from her popgun, ruining Bayonetta's and Jeanne's hair and Dixie quickly flees)

Jeanne: Well, it looks like some girls want to play dirtier.

Bayonetta: Oh.. That does it! I'll show her who's better evolved,
epsecially if I have to use my magic to teach her a few lessons
on not to mess with my hair.

 

[Wolfie557]

I think it would be great if Jeanne had 4 of the costumes be for her, like Alph/Olimar so she will be a character in a way.


EDIT:. This is so depressing.

 

[BluePikmin11]

As a costume for ZSS, that's not going to happen.
That would be a disservice for those who wanted her in.

 

[Wolfie557]

As a costume for ZSS, that's not going to happen.
That would be a disservice for those who wanted her in.

Yeah I thought about that.

But then I thought it's the next best thing until Platinum Games becomes 2nd party to N and they or Nintendo get Sega's rights to the Bayonetta franchise.

(why will it likely never happen? )

 

[BluePikmin11]

Platinum Games sounds like a studio Nintendo could acquire, they have been making great games for a long time, it's sure to get Nintendo's attention. I don't know the likelihood of it happening though. Let's not look at the negatives at keep looking at hope.

 

[JBRPG]

Yeah I thought about that.

But then I thought it's the next best thing until Platinum Games becomes 2nd party to N and they or Nintendo get Sega's rights to the Bayonetta franchise.

(why will it likely never happen? )

Better Answer: Until Bayonetta is confirmed for next smash game.

Anyways: Here's a bayonetta vs bayonetta!

Bayonetta:

Spoiler

Bayonetta (Taunting): Oh rubbish... Here comes the time paradox..

Other Bayonetta (Selected): (leaps out of portal) Hands up, impostor!

Bayonetta: Excuse me, other Bayonetta, you don't happen to see
a halo on me, don't you?

Other Bayonetta: No, I do not. Where am I and what's going on here?

Bayonetta: You are in another time period within the trinity of realms,
and you're part of Smash Brothers.

Other Bayonetta: Tell me more about Smash Brothers?

Bayonetta: The objective of this game is to deal as much damage as
possible so you can score KO's by sending opponents off the stage.
Since we are the same, we're pretty much equal in
terms of abilities.

Other Bayonetta: Well then, we'll see who's the better Bayonetta here.

Bayonetta: Come and get me then.

 

[Wolfie557]

Better Answer: Until Bayonetta is confirmed for next smash game.

Anyways: Here's a bayonetta vs bayonetta!

Bayonetta:

Spoiler

Bayonetta (Taunting): Oh rubbish... Here comes the time paradox..

Other Bayonetta (Selected): (leaps out of portal) Hands up, impostor!

Bayonetta: Excuse me, other Bayonetta, you don't happen to see
a halo on me, don't you?

Other Bayonetta: No, I do not. Where am I and what's going on here?

Bayonetta: You are in another time period within the trinity of realms,
and you're part of Smash Brothers.

Other Bayonetta: Tell me more about Smash Brothers?

Bayonetta: The objective of this game is to deal as much damage as
possible so you can score KO's by sending opponents off the stage.
Since we are the same, we're pretty much equal in
terms of abilities.

Other Bayonetta: Well then, we'll see who's the better Bayonetta here.

Bayonetta: Come and get me then.

DANNNCCEEEEEE OOOFFFFFFF!!!!!!!

 

[BluePikmin11]

Were getting really close to Bayonetta, and I still have not prepared my long analysis for yet, I requested that her day be delayed till I ready for her, he hasn't responded though. :<
You guys gotta aid me when it comes to arguing and not silently leave, I don't want to be the only one arguing again. ;-;
I'm not going to be the guardian all the time, you all should do your part as Bayonetta supporters here, we shouldn't give up so easily!

 

[Wolfie557]

Were getting really close to Bayonetta, and I still have not prepared my long analysis for yet, I requested that her day be delayed till I ready for her, he hasn't responded though. :<
You guys gotta aid me when it comes to arguing and not silently leave, I don't want to be the only one arguing again. ;-;
I'm not going to be the guardian all the time, you all should do your part as Bayonetta supporters here, we shouldn't give up so easily!

Well........got 6 exams left still, sorry. (but i'm doing my part somewhere else.)

 

[JBRPG]

Perhaps I can cover various things that make Bayonetta a viable contender.

For now I present a short list:

• Platinum Games Worked with Nintendo to develop an original IP Wonderful 101, With Hideka Kamayia as director.
• When Platinum Games initially ran out of funding for developing Bayonetta 2 from Sega, Nintendo backed the rest of the project, landing not only the sequel but also making a Wii U enhanced port of Bayonetta with NIntendo goodies
• Various staff at Nintendo, including well known ones like Koji Kondo, allowed Platinum Games creative liberty with Nintendo IP to fit the developers' vision, not too childish, but suggestive enough.
• Bayonetta 2 sold more than 500,000 units world-wide (VG chartz around 670,000), impressive to fill in a mainstream niche
• Hideki Kamayia expressed interest having her in smash if he gets contacted by Masahiro Sakurai.
• Masahiro Sakurai liked wonderful 101 so much that he placed several characters as trophies for Smash 4 Wii U
• Bayonetta has various adult-like elements that can be modified and trimmed down to fit in Smash while retaining her signature elements, like how Snake was developed for Brawl.
• Bayonetta would be the 2nd character to represent adult-rated games
• Has great potential for a fighter talk in a more structured system based on character types based on priority from top to bottom
  • Bayonetta: Series that previously had taunt talks (Metal Gear, Kid Icarus)
  • Jeanne: Females and clone-like fighters
  • Rodin: Villains
  • Enzo: Certain famous 3rd party icons in 80's + Super Mario-related (Mario, DK, Yoshi, Wario), G&W, Sonic
  • Luka: All others not taken
  • Characters having more than one type can make interesting dialogue from 2 or more talkers

 

[Wolfie557]

I wonder if Sakurai played or will play Bayonetta 1-2.

 

[Megadoomer]

I'm sure people will bring up "she gets naked when she attacks" as a negative, but other appearances (developed by Platinum themselves) show that it's entirely possible to tone her down while still staying in character.

Take Anarchy Reigns:

They'd just need to make a few small changes (make it so the guns either don't fire, or only the muzzle flash deals damage, and they probably wouldn't use the pose at roughly 3:45, which doesn't make much of a difference), and the attacks from that game alone would work well for her basic moveset (minus specials and final smash) while still staying true to her personality and fighting style in the games.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Sure, we will never have that pose at 3:45!

But this is definitely a proof that she doesn't get naked everytime she attacks. And I personally don't mind seeing her using wicked weaves without getting in "bikini mode" too.

 

[JBRPG]

I'm sure people will bring up "she gets naked when she attacks" as a negative, but other appearances (developed by Platinum themselves) show that it's entirely possible to tone her down while still staying in character.

Take Anarchy Reigns:

They'd just need to make a few small changes (make it so the guns either don't fire, or only the muzzle flash deals damage, and they probably wouldn't use the pose at roughly 3:45, which doesn't make much of a difference), and the attacks from that game alone would work well for her basic moveset (minus specials and final smash) while still staying true to her personality and fighting style in the games.

I agree on all but the guns.
However, one of her specials has to involve guns, but with pointy-tipped energy shots instead of physical bullets since witch guns are powered by magic. The handguns would definitely not be in Smash.

 

[Wolfie557]

I agree on all but the guns.
However, one of her specials has to involve guns, but with pointy-tipped energy shots instead of physical bullets since witch guns are powered by magic. The handguns would definitely not be in Smash.

I think there's not enough specials to show her all of her special moves especially the transformations. So personally I'd rather have them as a visual/sound effect along with the red/blue effects during normal combat.

 

[BluePikmin11]

These are great points guys! Will surely take it into consideration when I get my analysis ready!

 

[Wolfie557]

I asked Kamiya what he thinks is the most important part of bayos and jeannes character. Hopefully he doesn't block me and replies once he wakes up.

 

[Altais]

I asked Kamiya what he thinks is the most important part of bayos and jeannes character. Hopefully he doesn't block me and replies once he wakes up.

I've thought about asking him if he would ever be interested in developing the next Kid Icarus game, but have been hesitant to do so. I think it would be cool if the Kid Icarus: Uprising sequel had controls very similar to the Bayonetta games, with various subtle differences. I know for a fact he knows about the Kid Icarus series, and has played Kid Icarus: Uprising, so I fancy I wouldn't have to explain what it is. [Shrugs] I don't even have a Twitter account, though.

Eh, maybe I'll register and ask him; at least it won't be a Smash request or something everyone else is asking. [Shrugs] The worst that can happen is that he'll tell me off and block me. I doubt he'll fly to mine house like Stewie and thump me in the face.

 

[Wolfie557]

I've thought about asking him if he would ever be interested in developing the next Kid Icarus game, but have been hesitant to do so. I think it would be cool if the Kid Icarus: Uprising sequel had controls very similar to the Bayonetta games, with various subtle differences. I know for a fact he knows about the Kid Icarus series, and has played Kid Icarus: Uprising, so I fancy I wouldn't have to explain what it is. [Shrugs] I don't even have a Twitter account, though.

Eh, maybe I'll register and ask him; at least it won't be a Smash request or something everyone else is asking. [Shrugs] The worst that can happen is that he'll tell me off and block me. I doubt he'll fly to mine house like Stewie and thump me in the face.

I can't believe I never thought of your idea! A PG made KI game would be a m a z i n g !

I think you should ask him, after you do a few posts.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

A PG KI game would obviously bring back Medusa and add more Goddesses. I'm for it

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'm pretty sure I recall Sakurai giving Kamiya KI:U as a gift.
I think it might've been a gift exchange or birthday thing.

 

[Altais]

A PG KI game would obviously bring back Medusa and add more Goddesses. I'm for it

In a storyline I wrote just for fun for the next Kid Icarus, with Hades gone, Pandora takes rulership of the underworld. It never was revealed what happened to Pandora after her unsuccessful duel with Dark Pit. Unlike Hades, whom just wanted to take control of everything, Pandora is a more productive villain whom, despite her self-serving nature, does things that not only profit for her, but also provide benefits for the rest of the world--all the while making sure she maintains the upper hand. Basically, she's a clever villain whom clothes herself in good deeds--and that makes her much more dangerous than Hades, whom was openly greedy and stood alone.

Personally, I think Medusa should stay dead. Perhaps I'm just finicky, but I think resurrecting her yet again would be a little repetitive. Maybe she could be referenced, and in death, could still have subtle effects on the story and the characters (like the dragon Smaug from the Hobbit; even after he was killed, he still had a presense and an influence on Thorin).

BUT anyway, I'm getting off-topic.

 

[Wolfie557]

In a storyline I wrote just for fun for the next Kid Icarus, with Hades gone, Pandora takes rulership of the underworld. It never was revealed what happened to Pandora after her unsuccessful duel with Dark Pit. Unlike Hades, whom just wanted to take control of everything, Pandora is a more productive villain whom, despite her self-serving nature, does things that not only profit for her, but also provide benefits for the rest of the world--all the while making sure she maintains the upper hand. Basically, she's a clever villain whom clothes herself in good deeds--and that makes her much more dangerous than Hades, whom was openly greedy and stood alone.

Personally, I think Medusa should stay dead. Perhaps I'm just finicky, but I think resurrecting her yet again would be a little repetitive. Maybe she could be referenced, and in death, could still have subtle effects on the story and the characters (like the dragon Smaug from the Hobbit; even after he was killed, he still had a presense and an influence on Thorin).

BUT anyway, I'm getting off-topic.

I love you.

 

[JBRPG]

I believe the better solution is to simply request platinum games to actually acknowledge the smash ballot and use it for a one-time promotion for various characters made for Nintendo platforms like Wonder Red and Bayonetta. While it would not translate to immediately requesting Sakurai to insert the characters, it can bring more awareness and increase likelihood of being playable for future smash games.