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Banworthy Soccer/Football Move?

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First, read this article.

What's your take on the matter?

This "paradinha" technique essentially allows the penalty kicker an easy point on the goalkeeper. It's not banned by the game's official rules but referees outside of Brazil often penalize it anyway. In a game like soccer/football, one point is pretty significant.

Let's look at Sirlin's requirements that a ban be "enforceable, discrete, and warranted." Enforceability is not really an issue. Discreteness is a bit trickier, but the technique can be pretty well defined as "making an absolute stop during a penalty kick," so we have an objective definition. Whether it's warranted or not is a huge question. It doesn't automatically win games. It doesn't even always work. However, it is a low-risk, very high-reward maneuver.

I would be really interested to hear the community's take on this. Draw whatever parallels to MK you want.
 

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Interesting. However; it is technically the goalie's fault if he falls for it. I suppose it is like the MK debate/discussion/clusterf*ck.
 

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I personally think that if it's game breaking, then they should seriously do something about it. While I do like soccer, I'm not really into the competitive scene so I really can't say.
 

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I play soccer and Ive done this before to great success. I think its fair as long as the kicker never makes a complete stop or turns around. Basically, you must run up to the ball and kick it. You can stutter and all that **** but once you start running you must kick it.
 

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article said:
The technique can backfire, especially for players who employ it too often. Mr. Ronaldo, while playing for Manchester United, couldn’t make Chelsea goalkeeper Petr Cech flinch during the shootout phase of the 2008 UEFA Champions League Final. While Mr. Ronaldo stopped as if to kick, Mr. Cech waited calmly for the flustered Portuguese star’s real shot and was able to block it.
there ya go, don't ban it
 

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I think its fair as long as the kicker never makes a complete stop or turns around. Basically, you must run up to the ball and kick it. You can stutter and all that **** but once you start running you must kick it.
This. Otherwise, you could repeat the process indefinitely until you see the goalie move in one direction.
 

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In the article, a reasoning made for banning the technique was it's "ungentlemen-like"

That's poor reasoning when I've repeatively seen a winning team scrooge/plank to run the timer to guarantee their one goal lead for victory

or players exagerate an "injury" in hopes to retain control of the ball or stall for time


Faking out an opponent is a legitiment tactic found in numerous competitive events
Peredilolwuter is no exception
Especially when it can be beaten


The only criticism I can find in it is that it can very much be seen as a cheap move
 

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Eh, honestly, it's the goalie's fault if they fall for it. Sure, it'd be really annoying, but goalies have to be focused and ready for anything. They should be ready for whatever the offense has against them.

And this is coming from someone who used to play goal in soccer...soooo...

Though, a lot of people have made good points. There should be some stricter regulations that would prevent penalty kicks from becoming completely stupid.
 

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I occasionally watch Football (not Soccer), and I've seen a player get punished for this before. Didn't know what it was called or anything, but I thought it was stupid how the ref actually saw it as cheating. Anybody can do it, so there's no inherent advantage - if the goalie falls for it, it's because the goalie wasn't good enough, not that the kicker cheated.
 

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My brother and I do the paradinha all the time.

It's the keeper's fault for being too hasty with the reaction.
 
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