Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

[SneakyLink]

Unrelated, but apparently you can buy DLC fighter-related spirits.................while also not owning the fighter said spirit is related to.

So i guess it would be possible to have a Blast Corps Sprit while not owning Banjo as DLC? I dunno im not sure how that works.

Basically if you don't own Joker, then the Persona (non-fighter) spirits will appear in the shop, but to get the battles you must buy Joker.

 

[Mr. Stagg]

All three takes in this quote are a top to bottom misunderstanding (or misrepresentation) of that actual argument.

The widest group of people who will enjoy 90s music is those who came up during that decade, when the music was current and at its most relevant. Nothing is stopping people who were born later from enjoying that music, but it’s going to garner a more infrequent, less concentrated appreciation.

That is the point here. Not that an older audience is a dealbreaker, but it is true. Banjo would be added for the sake of older gamers.

Anyone arguing or suggesting the argument is people born after whatever year are unable to enjoy the character, as if they recently started inoculating against Banjo, has built themselves a strawman.

Tens of thousands of kids play Super Mario Bros for the first time every year.

The fact that trolls make that Strawman show their bias and hatred. I just find it funny how most people can't grasp that kids could really enjoy Banjo-kazooie's design.

 

[BravadoMan_13]

It's a picture my girlfriend drew for me

Nice. She definitely has a great talent for art.

I swear to god, every time I come to this thread and see someone """leak""" information against Banjo, half of this thread's recurring users jump ship like a kraken crash-landed into it.

Grow a spine, folks. No giving up till the old-yet-young-looking Japanese man sings.

Yeah, we have been through this roller coaster for years now. Being through the K. Rool and Ridley support threads of Smash 4, you learn a lot from the leaks and other stuff.

I played Banjo-Tooie in Rare Replay at a Microsoft store and once I left, a kid kept playing Banjo instead going back to Fortnite or something.

Kids don’t have to know who Banjo is, but he appeals enough to them.

— Dee-Pad (@Destructo_Dan) May 2, 2019

Ooohhhh nooo... I thought Banjo-kazooie only appealed to ancient people, the Anon's on 4chan told me so. You mean to tell me that kids can....like.....the boomer bear and bird? Ooooooohhhhhhh nnoooooooooo.....
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Haha, this reminds me of one poor argument against K. Rool. "Little kids don't know K. Rool, he's irrelevant." When Banjo is confirmed, we can look back at poor arguments and have a good laugh.

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

Nice. She definitely has a great talent for art.

Yeah, we have been through this roller coaster for years now. Being through the K. Rool and Ridley support threads of Smash 4, you learn a lot from the leaks and other stuff.

Haha, this reminds me of one poor argument against K. Rool. "Little kids don't know K. Rool, he's irrelevant." When Banjo is confirmed, we can look back at poor arguments and have a good laugh.

It's true.. all the arguments about Banjo are literally copy past arguments from the old K. Rool detractors. How old he is, how irrelevant he was, his lack of appearances recently, not being a Japanese character.. the list goes on...

 

[pupNapoleon]

It's not about disliking Minecraft. Steve's a superfluous, interchangeable skin. Not a character.

That's true of any avatar character. In fact, that is literally the definition.


And for the most part, its even true of a lot of Nintendo characters for a long time- they were just used for the gameplay and not the story.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

Apparently this comes from Sabi's Discord. Which I'm admittedly not a part of but this was sent to me on Twitter

 

[Violante]

Wouldn't it be awkward for 'Volume II' of Rare Replay to exist on a system where Volume I doesn't?

 

[MissingGlitch]

Wouldn't it be awkward for 'Volume II' of Rare Replay to exist on a system where Volume I doesn't?

Shush. Let it happen. Banjo on switch is Banjo on switch.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

Wouldn't it be awkward for 'Volume II' of Rare Replay to exist on a system where Volume I doesn't?

Persona 5 Scramble is going to exist on Switch without it's main counterpart

For the longest time the Kingdom Hearts games had it's sequels juggled around on random Nintendo and Sony systems until only just NOW did they streamline it all into one collection on the PS4. Heck, KH3 is on Xbox One despite NONE of the games ever being on a Microsoft system and seemingly no plans to change that

A theoretical Rare Replay Vol. II being on the Switch without the first one is hardly off at this point

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Though to be fair, if they're a Mii costume, that could increase their chances for the next game. Anything beyond that(as in they aren't in the FP and are only a Spirit) I wouldn't be keen on thinking they have a decent chance.

Mind you, I'm 50/50 on the character being playable alone. Especially since it was noted that Ridley wasn't heavily requested in Japan, being more a Western pick. So it's not like he can't pick characters who appeal to only one specific set of fans. There's nothing wrong with that, after all. Sure, worldwide appeal is nice too. They're both valid reasonings for character inclusions.

When did Banjo suddenly not be popular in Japan?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

When did Banjo suddenly not be popular in Japan?

I was talking about Ridley in that particular context being not nearly as popular in the East.

I guess I didn't make that nearly as clear as I thought I did. My bad.

 

[MissingGlitch]

Well if it is Rare Replay volume 2. I wonder if they are actually going to put Nintendo/Rare games on it and make it a Nintendo exclusive. I don't see any other reason to make it a "sequel" besides that.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

Well if it is Rare Replay volume 2. I wonder if they are actually going to put Nintendo/Rare games on it and make it a Nintendo exclusive. I don't see any other reason to make it a "sequel" besides that.

Perhaps if they have to sacrifice some of the 360 games, replace them with the Donkey Kong Country trilogy, Diddy Kong Racing, and Donkey Kong 64. Goldeneye would be ideal, but it doubt that would happen

Edit: And Star Fox Adventures!

 

[LogFrog]

I think a “definitive edition” of Rare Replay makes more sense than “volume II.” I always have to say this too but please do not get rid of the Xbox games. Thank You, Phil.

 

[Looma]

I'm lowkey morbidly interested in playing BK Nuts n Butts. Pls no axing the Xbox stuff.

 

[dlewis53]

Honestly, if Rare Replay DOES come to the Switch, I don't really care about the Xbox games, but give me Kazooie, Tooie, and the DKC Trilogy, and I'll be a happy camper!

 

[MissingGlitch]

I really just want a legit way to play Donkey Kong 64. I never had the chance to play it.

 

[Mr. Stagg]

I really just want a legit way to play Donkey Kong 64. I never had the chance to play it.

It's fun, though the way they shotgun collectables on the map can feel utterly intimidating. Make note of the switch barrels, they are your friends. Also there is a sliding race in the 2nd world that is simply hair renderingly infuriating. Some bonus games are fun, others....not so fun. Honestly, DK64 has ups and downs, but it's still worth a play.

 

[TheAnvil]

I really just want a legit way to play Donkey Kong 64. I never had the chance to play it.

If you've got a Wii U kicking about it's on the VC.

 

[Koopaul]

I'm sorry to drag this back up but...

My point is that the future will tell us what happens with the series. A good game about characters actually listens to the fans about who should be the mascot- the face- which is why my initial post brought up Pikachu, Isabelle, and Scoprion.
I've yet to see an argument to actually counter that, aside from at best, that Spring Man is the hero of the story (if you search really hard), which would still equate him to Liu Kang or an actual starter Pokemon.

However, comparing series is ultimately never the most helpful. I just personally don't think that if ARMS continues, Springman will inherently be the face.

If you actually read the official lore or look at any of the promotional material you'll see that Spring Man is indeed the face of ARMS. He was given an evil doppelganger created of him called Springtron! It's usually the protagonist that get's evil clones created of them by the antagonist.

Anyway, if Rare Replay comes to the Switch I hope we get the original N64 Banjo-Kazooie with the N64 logo walking into the scene and Mario being mentioned by name in Tooie. No Microsoft xylophone, please.

 

[TheAnvil]

I'm sorry to drag this back up but...


If you actually read the official lore or look at any of the promotional material you'll see that Spring Man is indeed the face of ARMS. He was given an evil doppelganger created of him called Springtron! It's usually the protagonist that get's evil clones created of them by the antagonist.

Anyway, if Rare Replay comes to the Switch I hope we get the original N64 Banjo-Kazooie with the N64 logo walking into the scene and Mario being mentioned by name in Tooie. No Microsoft xylophone, please.

The Microsoft games made several improvements over the original N64 versions though.

 

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Haha, this reminds me of one poor argument against K. Rool. "Little kids don't know K. Rool, he's irrelevant." When Banjo is confirmed, we can look back at poor arguments and have a good laugh.

I can envisage it now in certain sections of 4Chan/Reddit/Smashboards....

Yeah k, but Kanjo Bazooie did not sell as well as *insert commercially successful video game franchise*, dey r no chance!
Hurr durr Banjo Kazooie/Tooie were hard games, not many people beat em, which are turn offs for the characters and games
B-b-b but Kanjie Bazooko have uglee dezignz, they won't aesthetically fit in Smash
Banjo is an unoriginal concept, a blatant rip off of Winnie the Pooh
The game has an evil witch in it, it will scare children away
Little kids won't care about Banjo, they'd rather play Fortnite and COD
We already have an animal duo in Smash, we don't need (aka I don't want) another

....Yep there are definitely parallels with some nonsensical arguments, dumb assumptions and rubbish blanket statements. (See my sig....lol)

Now all these arbitrary fan rules have pretty much been smashed, pun intended, which is refreshing.

Lots of people were left with egg on their face when Ridley, K.Rool and the Belmonts (to a lesser extent) came aboard.

Maybe I/we expect too much common sense, comprehension and rational thinking when it comes to Smash speculation...

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

I really just want a legit way to play Donkey Kong 64. I never had the chance to play it.

Donkey Kong 64 is overall a very solid 3D platformer, It does go quite a bit overboard with collectibles, There's also backtracking, constant switching between Kongs and is not as good as Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie, But if you love the BK games then there's a very good chance you'll like DK 64 as it has a lot of similarities such as the art style, character personality, sense of humor (To a lesser extent) , great sound and music from the same composer too (Grant Kirkhope).

Score: 8 - 8.5/10

Don't forget to listen to the DK Rap !!!

 

[NintenRob]

Anyone who plays DK64 with intention to 100% needs to know of a glitch that prevents doing just that IN THE FINAL LEVEL!

there are giant banana medals (that I thought were purely background since you never collected them this way in the past) that you need to get before leaving. Doesn't help you're on a timer. If you don't get them, you're screwed

 

[TheAnvil]

Just about the only thing I could really criticise DK64 with is not being as good as Banjo Kazooie or Tooie. The "too many collectibles" thing seemed like a bandwagon criticism after the fact. At the time the game had universal praise.

 

[LogFrog]

DK64 is an awful game. Just how it’s structured and designed for instance makes it bad. Sure it’s got it’s redeeming qualities but like Yooka-Laylee those cannot save it from how badly designed it is. I’d rather play the Kinect games than DK64, and if it comes to Rare Replay I’m not going to bother playing it at all.

 

[TheZoologist]

Perhaps if they have to sacrifice some of the 360 games, replace them with the Donkey Kong Country trilogy, Diddy Kong Racing, and Donkey Kong 64. Goldeneye would be ideal, but it doubt that would happen

Edit: And Star Fox Adventures!

Yeah I’d be extremely happy with all those selections on a Nintendo Switch version of Rare Replay, especially Diddy Kong Racing and possibly Goldeneye 007! But I’m gonna be honest, I’d be completely willing to finally give Nuts n’ Bolts a fair chance if it came with Banjo-Kazooie & Banjo-Tooie on the Switch! It could be fun to play that on the go along with having the others available AND the possible hope of Banjo & Kazooie in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate and I’d be an extremely happy camper.

 

[pupNapoleon]

I'm sorry to drag this back up but...


If you actually read the official lore or look at any of the promotional material you'll see that Spring Man is indeed the face of ARMS. He was given an evil doppelganger created of him called Springtron! It's usually the protagonist that get's evil clones created of them by the antagonist.

Yeah- I'm not going to read promo material to try to determine something that should be obvious.
If a "mascot" isn't obvious, it isn't a mascot.
The best you can say from your statements is that Springman is the Liu Kang- and Liu Kang is not Scorpion.
You can message me if you want to debate this, but I'm going to keep relating it to the history of other franchises.

 

[CosmicQuark]

While ideally a Switch version of Rare Replay would add Nintendo owned games, rather than replacing 360 games, realistically sacrifices are made sometimes. And since I grew up on Nintendo and played the 360 sparingly, I'd be fine with no 360 games (even though I'd love to find out what the fuss is about with Viva Piñata). Though, if it includes games from the original Rare Replay, I can't see it being a Vol II. Maybe a Deluxe or Nintendo Edition.

That being said, I'm not putting on stock in these rumors. I want them to be true, so I'm more skeptical of them. Would like some independent verification from other insiders, which I'm not seeing at the moment.

 

[egaddmario]

Banjo is literally a cartoon animal mascot. Kids are going to love him regardless if they know him or not. Kids eat that stuff up.

There's a joke in there somewhere with cartoon animal mascot and kids eating that stuff up. I'm thinking cereal...

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

If a Rare Replay for Switch IS indeed having new stuff added to it then that would likely mean the Donkey Kong Country Trilogy, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong 64, and Star Fox Adventures at the very least. I'd love to have GBA DKC3 added alongside Grunty's Revenge too.

 

[TheAnvil]

If a Rare Replay for Switch IS indeed having new stuff added to it then that would likely mean the Donkey Kong Country Trilogy, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong 64, and Star Fox Adventures at the very least. I'd love to have GBA DKC3 added alongside Grunty's Revenge too.

I've recently been playing Sabrewulf on the GBA. Very fun.

Honestly I'd like them to ditch a couple of the really old games like Lunar Jetman and Atic Atac. Those games just aren't fun to play. Keep a couple of them for historical significance sure, but they had 10 games on Rare Replay from the 80s and at least half of them have aged horribly enough to make them practically unplayable.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Was E3 always during the week?
I really thought it used to be over a weekend.
Well... that's good news for my being in town to watch it!

I legitimately may have a Banjo in hand. And yellow shorts.
It started as a conceptual joke. But since gaming is my sport, I feel I need to be over the top.

Now to find a ginger twink....
wait. I just called myself a bear.
Gym time.

........what was the topic?

 

[ivanlerma]

personally i don't want to see any of rare's classic games from their own console be taken off, they look interesting to me and i would like to try them out plus they are apart of rare's history too.

 

[MissingGlitch]

personally i don't want to see any of rare's classic games from their own console be taken off, they look interesting to me and i would like to try them out plus they are apart of rare's history too.

I guess I can see where they are coming from. There might be games that would be to hard/just not worth bringing over in their eyes.

 

[TheAnvil]

personally i don't want to see any of rare's classic games from their own console be taken off, they look interesting to me and i would like to try them out plus they are apart of rare's history too.

Well look at it this way, in a collection of 30 games would you rather have better ones or worse ones just for the sake of history?

 

[ivanlerma]

Well look at it this way, in a collection of 30 games would you rather have better ones or worse ones just for the sake of history?

i would want rare's games from their older console in the collection with the games they made for arcade,NES,SNES,N64,and Gameboy Advance, i would probably imagine them to take out 360 games so they would all be switch ports separately.

on an unrelated note, i finally gave myself a picture portrait for my avatar, what do you all think?

 

[Swop]

on an unrelated note, i finally gave myself a picture portrait for my avatar, what do you all think?

I mean, I dont really see you post in here very often but it looks decent I suppose

 

[ivanlerma]

I mean, I dont really see you post in here very often but it looks decent I suppose

i don't post much often because i try to avoid to much drama in here, but i still watch how you guys talk about news and predictions, also if you are curious about my picture it's from The Last Story, i just finished it three days ago.

 

[JonSmash]

DK64 is a great game if you just play it to beat the final boss after that it becomes a bit of a mess & choir to try & get some bananas like in the spooky ghost world near the end of the game every banana you work your way to is in a bonus barrel with a BS hard mini game to beat to get it not fun at that point

DK vine did a retrospective on DK64 & hit the nail on the head about why its good points are good & why the bad points are bad

(still PO'ed we never got a DK643D remake for 3DS)