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I thought the Sonic Boom for 3DS was decent. However, the Wii U version was horrible. Too. Many. Glitches. Fire and Ice seems a little better, but I'm sure fans are trying to find some way to complain about it. Until I see more gameplay, I'm not stopping them.
Erm.
Here's what I understand from the data we have.
I still want to know what the **** was going through they're heads when they decided that the worst selling Sonic game yet needed a sequel. How bout a sequel to a good game? What about Silver? Nobody would've complained about a Silver the Hedgehog game.
You are higher than Sky Palace Zone.
What would be wrong with Silver the Hedgehog? He's a very interesting and mysterious character, and as much as Sonic fans ***** about continuity and plot, you'd think they would welcome some backstory to how Silver and Blaze met.
Nah. Their too busy arguing over Sonic's eye color...
So you want Sonic '06 again, but with all the Sonic and Shadow segments replaced with more Silver?
Popularity, specifically a lack of it accompanied with how detested his gameplay was in the only main game he's playable in
Sonic 06 was to me, an example of a "What could have been" title... if you look at the gameplay mechanics, looking through the cheesy lines, and the crap ton of glitches, one can recognize a bit of Adventure gameplay.. I mean they even have the rail grinding segments. I honestly still think that this was our Sonic Adventure 3 title... but I like to believe that it ended up being rushed by Microbutt (back when the game was being just released for the 360), and the team lost interest in the project.. and we got the "masterpiece" we all know of today XD. At least they tried to fix some of the glitches in the ports... but even then the damage was still done.So you want Sonic '06 again, but with all the Sonic and Shadow segments replaced with more Silver?
If you want Sonic Team to make a good game, just ask them to collaborate with HAL to make a new Kirby game, only leave Sonic Team to do nothing but work on the levels that recommend the Wheel ability... Or better yet, to just fund HAL for it while they stay far away from making anything.
I've seen some funny gameplay with that character... I love how you can practically fly with him XD
No, I want a FINISHED game with actual physics and hopefully a revamping of Silver's psychokinesis so that's it's not so inconsistent. "I bet you'd like to fly around the Crisis City sky at high speeds right? Nope, cutscene only!"
And yet Shadow is still popular, despite his game putting the "buggy" in "buggy." After 2006, no other character became playable in a mainstream game, not just Silver.
"ZOMG SANIC'S ARMS R BLUE RUINED 4EVER!"Nah. Their too busy arguing over Sonic's eye color...
Just kidding lol. I think it would be interesting to see some Silver backstory too. Just as long as they toned down the IT'S NO USE line... XD
Well, I thought I could make short stories about Bandana Dee and his uniqueness. I was also thinking about maybe expanding the 5-day schedule? Post those short stories on Story-Telling Saturday's? If that's possible, however. Finally, what's your google drive username? I may be able to send it to you. If I can't let you in on it in google drive, you can always look at it on FanFiction.net. Just look up my username there. Hypernovaguy64. If you see me, just ignore my Kirby Triple Deluxe Fanfiction. I'll try to see if I can post my Bandana Dee stories on other sites as well.Erm.
Besides not really seeing where it would fit in with the campaign's website, I'm not able to view it... Nothing against the story, but where exactly would it fall under in our 5-day schedule?
Shadow's game came after the height of popularity in the SA2 to bring him back from the dead for Heroes, which was far greater than Silver has hit. That's kind of the difference.
If by that you mean "rehash of Episode 1 with no different physics or level design," then yes.
Even with Nintendo-level polishing, the game was still a mess. As a Game Designer, I'm appalled when I look at the level design and see things like inconsistent progression (no linear-level-games like Sonic should be remotely easy to get lost in) and hazards that cheat players out of lives simply for being their first run of the level (lack of forewarning and a terrible camera play towards that). Quality control is one thing, but the design itself was faulty on principle alone as well. It COULD have been good, but that hypothetical works if you describe it as a different game altogether (at which point you're just better off marketing it as a brand new game altogether with all the changes required otherwise).
You can just post a link to it on FanFiction, could you not?
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In hindsight, the fact that the Sonicheads are arguing about eye color is really ****ing stupid.I have Zero knowledge when it comes to Sonic, but
According to the Sonic Yoshi, Sonic has green eyes
Also, Why are we talking about Sonic?
I like all the "Fire and Ice" thing BTW
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Works just like it does in RTDL and TD, trapping opponents for as long as they prove incompetent at sufficient struggling. No killing knockback at the end. That would just be annoying.
, and MKST is too non-existant, so I need some breathing room.
So you have returned. How long has it been? A month? Anyway, it's good to know that you aren't downgrading Bandana Dee like last time. It's also good to see you using respectful language and being logical in your reasoning. (Professional words for a professional moment) However, I'm sure we will get SOME kind of Kirby-related DLC in smash bros. Sakurai said DLC would be plentiful in the future, so there's a high possibility we can get a new rep for the series.Heya, Bandanna Dee fans. I've returned in the hype for E3 to inform you that, although I do think Bandanna Dee has potential, there are still a million other Kirby characters I'd rather play as. ( *cough* *cough* Magolor *cough* )
*not sarcasm*
That having been said, I've come up with a theoretical moveset for our bandanna-boi. Just bare in mind that it's mostly based on the representation he could give to generic Kirby enemies across the board.
I'd like to say beforehand that I don't think we'll get any Kirby DLC characters. Kirby is popular, but not popular enough to be worth programming an extra character to put in a Nintendo all-star fighter, if we're being honest. In proportion to popularity, DK is the franchise most in need of a newcomer. And there are so many other popular characters (including other Kirby characters IMO) deserving of a place on the roster. I'd say BD will get in Smash five, but I honestly, truthfully, and wholeheartedly believe that if Mags is in one more Kirby game between now and the start of Smash five's development, then his position as the fourth Kirby rep is sealed. But I don't think either will get in Smash four. That's not to crush your hopes; just being logical about it.
Now onto the moveset.
His standard could be a simple Spear Thrust. Pushing the button again would cause him to turn three-hundred sixty and do another thrust. The combo could have two finishers. For the simple push-push-push finisher, he could deviate from the thrust stereotype and do an arching slash with decent range and reasonable knockback. The rapid-tap finisher could simply be Multispear Attack.
A horizontal slash. Has better range and knockback than his standards, but deals less damage.
He swings his spear around above his head, similar to Villagers up-tilt, only with much more range. To balance this, it will trap less easily and deal less knockback.
A simple low thrust of the spear. Reasonably good vertical knockback.
Spear Throw. Good range. Better knockback. I can hear the complaints already. "Spear Throw is OP." "When are they gonna nerf Spear Throw?" "How the hell did I just lose to a Goomba with a headband? **** Spear Throw!" *rage quits* Every character has a move like this.
Every character needs a move like this.
Smash attacks should have insane reach but narrow hitboxes.
A glorified version of Spear Thrust with better reach and more narrow hitbox.
Skyward Thrust. Nruff said. (get it? Nruff said?)
A lower, less glorified version of Spear Thrust with lower hitbox followed by a Back Thrust. Back Thrust is slower than most two-sided down-smashes, but not as slow as Ike's.
Aerials should follow general procedure.
He could simply spin while holding his spear perpendicular to him. As expected of the tipper quality, getting hit by the tip does more damage and knockback than getting hit by the shaft. It's all dependent on which side of the attack hits you.
Something akin to Spear Throw. (only he doesn't actually throw his spear. (Wat
Or
Spear Barrage. Plz Sakuri.
A glorified aerial Skyward Thrust with better knockback. So you can jump-n-kill.
Moon Drop. Complete with high knockback and dropping effect.
Two handed aerial Back Thrust. Not as much range as the norm. Kills at unreasonably low percentages.
Throws will follow the normal small and round trend.
Butts with his spear shaft. Or chokes if you wanna be violent.
Arm Throw. Only with spear shaft instead of arm.
Judo Throw because I'm boring. Throws a spear at the thrown victim for extra damage and knockback. The kill throw.
Lets face it. Fury Stomp is just too awesome.
Catapults the victim upward with his spear. Because these throws need to involve more spear somehow.
And now, the part you've all been waiting for. The defining moves.
You come up with something. You guys are smart.
Can't include a Waddle Dee in Smash without referencing how good they are about always remembering their umbrellas. Parasol Drill fits the bill. It would work similarly to Meta Knight's Drill Rush, only it can't be turned, and doesn't travel quite as far. Unlike the Parasol Drill we all love and know, this version keeps him at a constant altitude, making for a good recovery move. Given it's nature as such, he will be left in a helpless state after using it in the air. However, similar to Peach's Peach Parasol, he would be able to break in and out of a parachute state after using it in the air.
That's not it though. Like Lucario's Force Palm, this move can grab when used at grabbing distance, and when it does, it works more similarly to Circus Throw, trapping his opponents inescapably for the duration of the attack, and having a high damage output. Using the Circus Throw variation up close in the air won't leave him in a helpless state, and will actually give him a bit of altitude, furthering it's usefulness as a recovery move.
Spear Copter. Unless you can think of something better.
****ING MEGATON PUNCH.
You can't not put this in his moveset. It's not just the perfect callback to BD's roots. It is the apex of awesome punches. It makes the Falcon Punch look like a baby flicking a ten ton block of steel with his pinky. It supercedes Warlock Punch and the Hammer Flip combined by over nine-thousand. Not putting the Megaton punch in BD's moveset is like denying the existence of Chuck Norris. Either scenario, he will find you. And he will Megaton Roundhouse you.
Okay I'm done. It would be a chargeable attack with similar properties to Ike's Eruption, only the attack wouldn't travel upward. It's hitbox would work similarly to DK's Hand Slap, being almost exclusively grounded. Initiating the attack in the air, regardless of how charged it is, will send BD straight down to the ground. Opponents who get caught under the punch itself will
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As for the Final Smash, I'd say that the best thing at the moment would be Dedede Robot (HR-D3). It'd come floating down in the background, BD would jump in, and then it'd fly up, land on the stage, and crush whoever was unlucky enough to be standing there at the moment. It would then proceed to do a rabid-jab punch combo followed by a drill attack, and it would finish up with a big laser fired from the cannon in it's chest.
Or I could be boring and go with Kabula. Not sure how that'd work anyway.
I'm probably going to follow this thread a little more closely than before. RST is too
I will not put more movesets in the OP, it has a lot of them and they are pretty similar, it's not necessary IMO.
I tried to be logical last time, even if I did seem overly sarcastic and a bit desperate. Even today, I still don't understand why BD is getting all this support. Not that I'm complaining. :/
Because he is love and life.
Well put, Chadeelure.
Probably has to do with the combo of him already being a likable character, and then he got few a major roles recently, which gave people a reason to realistically support him. You'd see the exact same phenomena if Sailor Dee was playable for a game or too. People like the character and the moment they actually have something to work with, they get a monster amount of support. Not to mention that he's also become close to a main character now, so he'd be a suitable representative.
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Hopefully by the end of this campaign in October, you'll understand why. If I'm doing my job right, I'll be able to put it into the words neutral-minded folks such as yourself need in order to form a positive opinion of BWD!
I realized after the fact that the one Bandana Waddle Dee would go under is rather amusing! Did you guys guess which one Bandana Dee falls under?
Some characters can fit into more than one category, such as Wario being a Main Protagonist and Lucina being an Anti-Hero, though in hindsight Dedede does fit into Anti-Hero territory better than a mere Antagonist.
Chalo5000
Please don't hurt me... *Magalar* 
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Ah, it's cool.
However, are there any other ways I can help with the Dee support? I don't wanna sit from the sidelines, tweeting to Twitter channels about Bandana Dee and call that work. If there's anything you need me to preform to the best of my ability, tell me.
Well, if he does that, be sure to post propaganda in the comments.
Are you Meta Knight?Heya, Bandanna Dee fans. I've returned in the hype for E3 to inform you that, although I do think Bandanna Dee has potential, there are still a million other Kirby characters I'd rather play as. ( *cough* *cough* Magolor *cough* )
*not sarcasm*
That having been said, I've come up with a theoretical moveset for our bandanna-boi. Just bare in mind that it's mostly based on the representation he could give to generic Kirby enemies across the board.
I'd like to say beforehand that I don't think we'll get any Kirby DLC characters. Kirby is popular, but not popular enough to be worth programming an extra character to put in a Nintendo all-star fighter, if we're being honest. In proportion to popularity, DK is the franchise most in need of a newcomer. And there are so many other popular characters (including other Kirby characters IMO) deserving of a place on the roster. I'd say BD will get in Smash five, but I honestly, truthfully, and wholeheartedly believe that if Mags is in one more Kirby game between now and the start of Smash five's development, then his position as the fourth Kirby rep is sealed. But I don't think either will get in Smash four. That's not to crush your hopes; just being logical about it.
Now onto the moveset.
His standard could be a simple Spear Thrust. Pushing the button again would cause him to turn three-hundred sixty and do another thrust. The combo could have two finishers. For the simple push-push-push finisher, he could deviate from the thrust stereotype and do an arching slash with decent range and reasonable knockback. The rapid-tap finisher could simply be Multispear Attack.
A horizontal slash. Has better range and knockback than his standards, but deals less damage.
He swings his spear around above his head, similar to Villagers up-tilt, only with much more range. To balance this, it will trap less easily and deal less knockback.
A simple low thrust of the spear. Reasonably good vertical knockback.
Spear Throw. Good range. Better knockback. I can hear the complaints already. "Spear Throw is OP." "When are they gonna nerf Spear Throw?" "How the hell did I just lose to a Goomba with a headband? **** Spear Throw!" *rage quits* Every character has a move like this.
Every character needs a move like this.
Smash attacks should have insane reach but narrow hitboxes.
A glorified version of Spear Thrust with better reach and more narrow hitbox.
Skyward Thrust. Nruff said. (get it? Nruff said?)
A lower, less glorified version of Spear Thrust with lower hitbox followed by a Back Thrust. Back Thrust is slower than most two-sided down-smashes, but not as slow as Ike's.
Aerials should follow general procedure.
He could simply spin while holding his spear perpendicular to him. As expected of the tipper quality, getting hit by the tip does more damage and knockback than getting hit by the shaft. It's all dependent on which side of the attack hits you.
Something akin to Spear Throw. (only he doesn't actually throw his spear. (Wat
Or
Spear Barrage. Plz Sakuri.
A glorified aerial Skyward Thrust with better knockback. So you can jump-n-kill.
Moon Drop. Complete with high knockback and dropping effect.
Two handed aerial Back Thrust. Not as much range as the norm. Kills at unreasonably low percentages.
Throws will follow the normal small and round trend.
Butts with his spear shaft. Or chokes if you wanna be violent.
Arm Throw. Only with spear shaft instead of arm.
Judo Throw because I'm boring. Throws a spear at the thrown victim for extra damage and knockback. The kill throw.
Lets face it. Fury Stomp is just too awesome.
Catapults the victim upward with his spear. Because these throws need to involve more spear somehow.
And now, the part you've all been waiting for. The defining moves.
You come up with something. You guys are smart.
Can't include a Waddle Dee in Smash without referencing how good they are about always remembering their umbrellas. Parasol Drill fits the bill. It would work similarly to Meta Knight's Drill Rush, only it can't be turned, and doesn't travel quite as far. Unlike the Parasol Drill we all love and know, this version keeps him at a constant altitude, making for a good recovery move. Given it's nature as such, he will be left in a helpless state after using it in the air. However, similar to Peach's Peach Parasol, he would be able to break in and out of a parachute state after using it in the air.
That's not it though. Like Lucario's Force Palm, this move can grab when used at grabbing distance, and when it does, it works more similarly to Circus Throw, trapping his opponents inescapably for the duration of the attack, and having a high damage output. Using the Circus Throw variation up close in the air won't leave him in a helpless state, and will actually give him a bit of altitude, furthering it's usefulness as a recovery move.
Spear Copter. Unless you can think of something better.
****ING MEGATON PUNCH.
You can't not put this in his moveset. It's not just the perfect callback to BD's roots. It is the apex of awesome punches. It makes the Falcon Punch look like a baby flicking a ten ton block of steel with his pinky. It supercedes Warlock Punch and the Hammer Flip combined by over nine-thousand. Not putting the Megaton punch in BD's moveset is like denying the existence of Chuck Norris. Either scenario, he will find you. And he will Megaton Roundhouse you.
Okay I'm done. It would be a chargeable attack with similar properties to Ike's Eruption, only the attack wouldn't travel upward. It's hitbox would work similarly to DK's Hand Slap, being almost exclusively grounded. Initiating the attack in the air, regardless of how charged it is, will send BD straight down to the ground. Opponents who get caught under the punch itself will
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FINAL SMASH
As for the Final Smash, I'd say that the best thing at the moment would be Dedede Robot (HR-D3). It'd come floating down in the background, BD would jump in, and then it'd fly up, land on the stage, and crush whoever was unlucky enough to be standing there at the moment. It would then proceed to do a rabid-jab punch combo followed by a drill attack, and it would finish up with a big laser fired from the cannon in it's chest.
Or I could be boring and go with Kabula. Not sure how that'd work anyway.
I'm probably going to follow this thread a little more closely than before. RST is too
UPDATE: SPOILERED FOR BETTER ORGANIZATION.
