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Wait a sec...this game isn't actual canon forgot it's a side game.
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...There's a Kirby canon?Wait a sec...this game isn't actual canon forgot it's a side game.
Yes...There's a Kirby canon?
Well, the Dreamstalk hasn't appeared in other Kirby games before Triple Deluxe...so does that make Triple Deluxe the only true canon game? We could just treat the Dreamstalk as something that's always been there, but hasn't exactly made an explicit appearance in each of Kirby's adventures.Yes
Notice how the Dreamstalk isn't even hinted at in Rainbow Curse yet this is said for it
"It is mentioned that the Dreamstalk became a permanent feature of Dream Land, becoming a landmark in the country where it acts as a reminder of Floralia."
Also Kirby's a ball in Canvas Curse and Rainbow Curse yet he is normal in other games.
I take it as the side games have its own timeline.
To review a bit for you the Dreamstalk seed was planted in Triple Deluxe therefore it couldn't have been in any other games (except for the one that was to appear afterwards.)Well, the Dreamstalk hasn't appeared in other Kirby games before Triple Deluxe...so does that make Triple Deluxe the only true canon game? We could just treat the Dreamstalk as something that's always been there, but hasn't exactly made an explicit appearance in each of Kirby's adventures.
And Kirby has a ball copy ability in other games, it could be that Kirby has that in Canvas Curse and Rainbow Curse but is normal Kirby for other Kirby games.
Fair enough, but it could still be that the Dreamstalk wasn't visible throughout the game, doesn't change that it could've still been there.To review a bit for you the Dreamstalk seed was planted in Triple Deluxe therefore it couldn't have been in any other games (except for the one that was to appear afterwards.)
The clay is just a symbolic vision of Kirby as stated by HAL developers. He's not ACTUALLY made of clay but is depicted in clay to represent his versatility.I think rainbow curse takes place in its own timeline.
There is no explanation as to why everything is made out of clay, which probably means it's an alternate universe kind of thing
Also Kirby would have no reason to not use copy abilities/inhaling unless he didn't have the power, which explains why he roles.
I'm pretty sure that the original Dreamland game is where Kirby first showed his heroism. Why would Dynablade take place before this? It's kind of hard to place it there without something more concrete but I suppose if it's a personal interpretation of the events.A Kirby Timeline, huh? I was always interested in giving it a shot. Let's see here.
1: Dyna Blade. Where Kirby showed his first attempt at heroism.
2: Kirby's Dream Land/Spring Breeze. Kirby's first confrontation with King Dedede.
3: Gourmet Race, Dream Course, Tilt 'n' Tumble, and Avalanche all happen sometime after (in no particular order). Kirby and Dedede's rivalry grows, and Kirby starts to become a little sure of himself. Feeling that Dedede is always up to no good and it's his job to stop him. All of his victories started to get to him slightly.
4: Kirby Squeak Squad. Kirby just assumes Dedede is behind his cake theft and goes to teach him a lesson. Turns out, things were not as he thought. This marks the first time Kirby wrongly accused Dedede, strengthening the bad blood between the two. Kirby saves the day from an unknown enemy, and this also marks the first time he met Meta Knight.
5: Revenge of Meta Knight. Feeling that Dreamland is too easy going, and also feeling that Dedede is unfit to rule it, Meta Knight takes it upon himself to conquer Dreamland to take control of it himself. Kirby catches news of this somehow and rushes off to defeat him. Defeating the mysterious Knight gives Kirby yet another boost of confidence.
6: Meta Knightmare Ultra. Meta Knight, shamed by his defeat, rushes off to train and better his skills. Marx is watching him the whole time and finds out that the Nova grants wishes.
7: Milky Way Wishes. Taking notice of Kirby's gullible nature and willingness to help others, Marx uses the Sun and Moon's fight to convince Kirby to summon Nova. Kirby's trust is shattered when Marx turns on him, thus confusing and upsetting him.
8: Kirby's Adventure/Nightmare in Dream Land. Picking up soon after, Kirby goes home to get some sleep when he discovers he can't dream. Suspecting Dedede of messing with the Fountain of Dreams, Kirby goes to investigate. After wrongly accusing Dedede again, they sort of team up to defeat Nightmare.
9: Kirby Mass Attack. Kirby first discovers there is true evil out there and that popstar truly needs a hero. Kirby grows as a hero by literally following his own heart. He discovers that light and darkness both have their place in the world, and was changed by his almost near-death experience. Kirby has become a much kinder hero after this.
10: Kirby's Dream Land 2 and Dream Land 3. They happen right after each other. Kirby makes lots of new friends and they band together to save their world from the new threat, Dark Matter. They later defeat Zero.
11: Kirby 64. Dark Matter attacks another nearby planet, and Kirby offers his help to Ribbon. This marks the first time Kirby met Bandana Dee, but before his promotion. Realizing the magnitude of the situation, Dedede also agrees to help out. They soon discover and kill Zero Two.
12: Revenge of the King. After the Dark Matter threat was resolved, Dedede promoted Bandana Dee to be a captain of sorts. Giving him his signature Bandana. He tries one last time to settle things with Kirby, but is defeated.
13: Kirby Triple Deluxe. Kirby embarks on a quest to rescue his enemy, Dedede. After a long and tough adventure, he and Dedede put aside their differences and work together to defeat Queen Sectonia. After this, they started to become friendlier with each other, putting the past behind them. Bandana Dee also befriended Kirby as he helped him save Dedede.
14: The Amazing Mirror. Kirby encounters Dark Meta Knight, the only Knight stronger than Meta Knight. After Meta Knight suffers defeat at Dark MK's hands, Kirby and his clones embark on a quest to rescue him. It's after this that Meta Knight comes to respect Kirby and they become friendly rivals.
15: Kirby's Return to Dreamland. After everyone finally became friends, they all agree to help the stranded alien, Magolor, get home. This marks the first time they all worked together as a team fighting alongside each other.
16: Kirby and the Rainbow Curse. Kirby and Bandana Dee go off on another adventure together.
This ends the main timeline as I see it. Some things may be wrong, but I think it makes some sense. Man, this comment was really long. Sorry about that. I love stuff like this, timelines are so fun.
Games that could have happened at any point: Kirby Canvas Curse, Kirby's Pinball Land, Air Ride, and the rest of the Super Star games.
Wow, this is really interesting.One of the official Rainbow Curse 4koma comics show that Elline made the clones of Bandana Dee. So the yellow and green Bandana Dees in multiplayer are Bandana Dee.
I put Dyna Blade first because nothing of any real importance happened in it. No familiar antagonists of Kirby were in the game. As far as I can remember, they said something about Dyna Blade ruining everyone's crops in Dreamland. This would make sense as the first major event in Kirby's life as a hero because in Kirby's Dream Land, Dedede is taking a lot of food for himself, which Kirby fights to get back. King Dedede was probably effected by the Dyna Blade incident, which caused him to steal what was left from the other residents of Dreamland because he was being greedy. It makes sense when you think about it. Dedede had to have some sort of motive for stealing the food, and the Dyna Blade crisis gives him a motive.I'm pretty sure that the original Dreamland game is where Kirby first showed his heroism. Why would Dynablade take place before this? It's kind of hard to place it there without something more concrete but I suppose if it's a personal interpretation of the events.
actual placement of events in Kirby is a real pain as well... nevermind just figuring out whats part of what universe or canon/not canon.
That's an interesting interpretation and reasonable but it's still not very solid. I don't think a sub game mode that doesn't feature Dedede or MK necessarily mean 1st either. By this logic Milky Way Wishes could have maybe happened before original dreamland as well?I put Dyna Blade first because nothing of any real importance happened in it. No familiar antagonists of Kirby were in the game. As far as I can remember, they said something about Dyna Blade ruining everyone's crops in Dreamland. This would make sense as the first major event in Kirby's life as a hero because in Kirby's Dream Land, Dedede is taking a lot of food for himself, which Kirby fights to get back. King Dedede was probably effected by the Dyna Blade incident, which caused him to steal what was left from the other residents of Dreamland because he was being greedy. It makes sense when you think about it. Dedede had to have some sort of motive for stealing the food, and the Dyna Blade crisis gives him a motive.
True, true. I just feel that the events of Dyna Blade give Dedede a reason to steal a bunch food for himself. Otherwise, it's just Dedede being a jerk for no reason. There's nothing wrong with that, and it could be accepted as that, but I feel that if there's an explanation that works, why not use it? It's not only because it doesn't feature MK and Dedede, it just makes sense to happen before Kirby's Dream Land. If it did in fact happen before that game, it would make sense that Kirby doesn't run into Dedede or Meta Knight, since they haven't met yet. It's not proven or anything, it's just an simple explanation for Dedede's actions in Kirby's Dream Land. Everyone will probably have their own idea of which game comes first, I just feel that Dyna Blade makes the most sense. An official Kirby timeline would be a dream come true for me.That's an interesting interpretation and reasonable but it's still not very solid. I don't think a sub game mode that doesn't feature Dedede or MK necessarily mean 1st either. By this logic Milky Way Wishes could have maybe happened before original dreamland as well?
Not saying you can't think like this but just that it's fan speculation and interpretation of the timeline much like my own up there.
unfortunately this is the problem I feel with making a Kirby timeline (especially one diverse Kirby fans can even agree on) There isn't really a more defined and stated placement of games and subgames.
There's this problem with the fact that a variety of games can actually make sense to interpret multiple ways. Another example would be Dreamland, Adventure, KSS placement...
There are those who believe Dreamland went first because It's the first Kirby game and there are no powers. Also main character Kirby and Dedede are here. That's a valid interpretation. Than there's also the idea that because KSS has Spring Breeze, that Adventure actually takes place before KSS and than Dreamland/KSS because KSS's version is the real version of events in Dreamland. (Because powers are officially a feature of Kirby). You can also state that MK is seeking Revenge in Revenge of MK because of the events in Adventure. ALL Valid and can't be proved or disproved.
IMO making a timeline for Kirby feels impossible because there could be many valid reasons for placement of one game or another.
I wish Kirby were a more popular franchise where fan demand for a timeline could help. It happened with the Zelda franchise... but doubt HAL will ever tell us.
yeah, the comic kirby the dee army has your dee spritesAh yes, these are made by me.
yup, the author gave credit and I remembered lurking hereAh yes, these are made by me.
That's fine. I'm not saying either that you can't have your own reasoning. I guess that I just want HAL to say it officially xD I NEED THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD/S. All this speculating is too exciting. I actually have my own interpretation that explains why Dedede steals Dreamland's food which was actually going to be the idea behind a story or comic I wanted to SOMEDAY make about the Kirby series. It doesn't rely on the events of Dyna Blade but it does play into King Dedede's concerned for the well being of Dreamland (which we know he feels because of the events in Adventure). I think that he's a well intentioned character who unfortunately ended up hurting the kingdom he tried saving in an attempt to deal with a new denizen....True, true. I just feel that the events of Dyna Blade give Dedede a reason to steal a bunch food for himself. Otherwise, it's just Dedede being a jerk for no reason. There's nothing wrong with that, and it could be accepted as that, but I feel that if there's an explanation that works, why not use it? It's not only because it doesn't feature MK and Dedede, it just makes sense to happen before Kirby's Dream Land. If it did in fact happen before that game, it would make sense that Kirby doesn't run into Dedede or Meta Knight, since they haven't met yet. It's not proven or anything, it's just an simple explanation for Dedede's actions in Kirby's Dream Land. Everyone will probably have their own idea of which game comes first, I just feel that Dyna Blade makes the most sense. An official Kirby timeline would be a dream come true for me.
That sounds cool. You like to make comics, huh? If you ever make it, I'd like to see it, lol. I too would like to hear the truth from HAL themselves, but since that will likely never happen, all I can do is speculate and fail spectacularly due to missing little details. You're always fun to talk to, kirby_queen, even if we don't always agree on everything. I remember once that I wanted to write a story about Kirby's adventures, detailing them past what the games did. Like, I wanted to have a whole series of Kirby's games retold in a descriptive action packed adventure story! ...Never did it though, but I thought it was a cool idea when I was younger.That's fine. I'm not saying either that you can't have your own reasoning. I guess that I just want HAL to say it officially xD I NEED THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD/S. All this speculating is too exciting. I actually have my own interpretation that explains why Dedede steals Dreamland's food which was actually going to be the idea behind a story or comic I wanted to SOMEDAY make about the Kirby series. It doesn't rely on the events of Dyna Blade but it does play into King Dedede's concerned for the well being of Dreamland (which we know he feels because of the events in Adventure). I think that he's a well intentioned character who unfortunately ended up hurting the kingdom he tried saving in an attempt to deal with a new denizen....
That's not really surprising, Kirby is extremely popular in Japan, Metroid... not so much.I love Kirby Super Star so much I made it my icon.
fun facts about KSS, Kirby Super Star sold over 1 million copies in Japan. It sold more than Super Metroid but less that Mario and Zelda titles which is expected. Still one of the best selling games on the SNES of all time.
I think the one with the anime waddle doo scheme won't show up, and not of the alternate hats will. Or if there are hats, then it will be waddle dee, and not Bandana Waddle Dee. If it is waddle dee, I could see other hats, but I don't think that will happen. I think the 6 of the top ones are safe shots, but the other 2 will be based off of a King DDD and Meta Knight color schemeHey guys, it's me agian!
I'm sure you still remember my Bandana Dees, with the Sailor Dee as the 8th alt.
Well, I thought about it and Sailor Dee isn't Bandana Dee and if Bandana Dee just wore his hat, he couldn't be called Bandana Dee.
So I decided to draw another option for his 8th alt... but I couldn't decide what to draw, so I just drew everything I could think of...
And here it is:
As you can see, there are 7 Dees in the upper row and 7 in the lower. If I had to choose which one's going to be in Smash, the upper 7 are safe, but I don't want to decide which one of the loer 7 would be the 8th alt... Personally, I like them all.
Why don't YOU just tell me which one you'd choose?
And that no one get's confused, which one's supposed to be based on what, here's a new list:
And here is a list on what the colors are based:
01. His normal Bandana Dee colors.
02. The yellow Bandana Dee from Kirby and the Rainbow Curse.
03. The green Bandana Dee from Kirby and the Rainbow Curse.
04. The cut cyan Bandana Dee from Kirby and the Rainbow Curse as seen in this picture:05. Based on the Waddle Dee's alternate color palete from Kirby Super Star.
06. Based on Waddle Doo's colors from the Kirby anime. (I'd say it's very unlikely to appear)07. Based on the colors from the old Kirby's Dreamland.
08. Based on the colors of the Game Boy's green-ish colors:09. Kirby's spear ability bandana:10. Kirby's spear ability bandana + colors based on Kirby.
I was playing Kirby Super Star Ultra lately and in the Cave Offensive I've found a treasure that looked almost like Kirby's spear ability hat... And it was called "Bandana", so it could work for Bandana Dee!
11. The Sailor Waddle Dee from Kirby Super Star!
12. A color based on the Sailor Waddle Dee.
13. The common Waddle Dee armed with a spear.14. And the Cowboy Dee (as I call him) from Kirby Super Star Ultra as he appeared in the mingame "Kirby on the Draw", with sunset-based colors: (I drew him and the common Waddle Dee just for fun, they probably shouldn't be used for Bandana Dee.)
I really like the idea of having his Bandana having the colors to portray Sailor Dee, rather than changing Bandana Dee as a character himself. I personally hope he doesn't wear anything other than a bandana. These are shaping up to look really realistic and I can definitely see some of these actually making it (I hope), keep up the good work!Hey guys, it's me again!
I'm sure you still remember my Bandana Dees, with the Sailor Dee as the 8th alt.
Well, I thought about it and Sailor Dee isn't Bandana Dee and if Bandana Dee just wore his hat, he couldn't be called Bandana Dee.
So I decided to draw another option for his 8th alt... but I couldn't decide what to draw, so I just drew everything I could think of...
And here it is:
As you can see, there are 7 Dees in the upper row and 7 in the lower. If I had to choose which one's going to be in Smash, the upper 7 are safe, but I don't want to decide which one of the lower 7 would be the 8th alt... Personally, Iprefer the airlike them all.
Why don't YOU just tell me which one you'd choose?
And that no one get's confused, which one's supposed to be based on what, here's a new list:
And here is a list on what the colors are based:
01. His normal Bandana Dee colors.
02. The yellow Bandana Dee from Kirby and the Rainbow Curse.
03. The green Bandana Dee from Kirby and the Rainbow Curse.
04. The cut cyan Bandana Dee from Kirby and the Rainbow Curse as seen in this picture:05. Based on the Waddle Dee's alternate color palete from Kirby Super Star.
06. Based on Waddle Doo's colors from the Kirby anime. (I'd say it's very unlikely to appear)07. Based on the colors from the old Kirby's Dreamland.
08. Based on the colors of the Game Boy's green-ish colors:09. Kirby's spear ability bandana:10. Kirby's spear ability bandana + colors based on Kirby.
I was playing Kirby Super Star Ultra lately and in the Cave Offensive I've found a treasure that looked almost like Kirby's spear ability hat... And it was called "Bandana", so it could work for Bandana Dee!
11. The Sailor Waddle Dee from Kirby Super Star!
12. A color based on the Sailor Waddle Dee.
13. The common Waddle Dee armed with a spear.14. And the Cowboy Dee (as I call him) from Kirby Super Star Ultra as he appeared in the mingame "Kirby on the Draw", with sunset-based colors: (I drew him and the common Waddle Dee just for fun, they probably shouldn't be used for Bandana Dee.)
As I said, it is very unlikely. (But we also have a Mario color based on the box art of Mario Bros.! )((-' '-)>|
I think the one with the anime waddle doo scheme won't show up, and not of the alternate hats will. Or if there are hats, then it will be waddle dee, and not Bandana Waddle Dee. If it is waddle dee, I could see other hats, but I don't think that will happen. I think the 6 of the top ones are safe shots, but the other 2 will be based off of a King DDD and Meta Knight color scheme
(I also wouldn't mind if you made your own interpretation of them since that would be kickass)As I said, it is very unlikely. (But we also have a Mario color based on the box art of Mario Bros.! )
And, yeah, they probably would just make some colors based on Dedede and Meta Knight, which I wouldn't mind, personally.
(Not a bad idea... I'll do it tomorrow! But right now, I have other things to do! ...sleeping.)(I also wouldn't mind if you made your own interpretation of them since that would be kickass)
alright, have fun man!(Not a bad idea... I'll do it tomorrow! But right now, I have other things to do! ...sleeping.)
Hey guys, it's me again!
If you prank me, my name stays red, sadly. So... there's not much you can to do me.alright, have fun man!
Also, I may have been playing some jokes again... So keep your eyes out. *winks at @ Cutie Gwen @Pikablu Pikachu @ Aunt Jemima @ Chandeelure *
I'm winking bc I've already pranked y'all xDIf you prank me, my name stays red, sadly. So... there's not much you can to do me.
You can't re-prank people?I'm winking bc I've already pranked y'all xD
I could, but I'm not going to...You can't re-prank people?
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I need the bae to calm me nowalright, have fun man!
Also, I may have been playing some jokes again... So keep your eyes out. *winks at @ Cutie Gwen @Pikablu Pikachu @ Aunt Jemima @ Chandeelure *