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I have not seen any games in Italy, so I can't say anything for there.Although I doubt anything will major will get announced, Nintendo has announced both versions of Smash will be at Gamescom in Germany. It starts August 13th. Maybe he'll get revealed there? Is Kirby popular in Europe?
Which anniversaries has Sakurai noted till now?Seems like Sakurai completely forgot about the anniversary for his own game. Oh well. Maybe we'll get something later this weekend, but I doubt it.
I heard from somewhere about the F-Zero and Fire Emblem one which was on Robin's trailer? I could be wrong.
If you think that is a travesty:
I don't know, he seems to be branching out more and more as a main Kirby character and not just a minion, being he had his own playable appearance in RTDL and has made multiple appearances since, he seems at least in the same boat as Shulk, Ridley, King K Rool, And Dixie. Very possible and likely, but you just can't know with Sakurai. Hopefully if there is a reveal Monday than it will clear a few things up.
Bandana Dee isn't always with Dedede like Nana and Popo, he's just his most trusted servant. Bandana Dee and Dedede's relationship is just like Pit and Palutena's. Plus Bandana Dee is a lot more significant to the Kirby series than Goombella is to the Mario series.
Well he was saying characters who weren't in the demo.
I don't know if Rayman will be a newcomer, maybe that was a mistake.
saw the video I don't think he is stating that he is playable I think he is only referring to the trophy that's all
But if Rayman was a playable character he still wouldn't have been in the demo because he wasn't announced at the time. He probably was trying to say Megaman but then again, Sakurai could troll and bring him out anyway.
I really hope that any of the final reveals don't hurt Bandana Dee's chances. If he's not revealed, I'll cling on to the chance that he could be a hidden character. If all else fails though, I think he would get into SSB5 because he would probably play more supportive roles in more Kirby titles, making him a more important main character and probably picking up more fans along the way.
I don't think he would talk about trophies out-of-the-blue when he's talking about newcomers not in the demo. He could of thought about the trophy and messed up saying Rayman's not in the demo, though.
Well I think both franchises deserve more reps, that's for sure.
No but he wouldn't have meant Mega Man. I think Mega Man was on screen at the time so he would have been able to remember him.
I'm assuming you didn't read the part of the OP that did an entire section on Goombario/Goombella? Just saying.
Woah, and I didn't believe you guys when I asked about Bandana Dee detractors making the Goombario argument...
I am not a Bandana Dee detractor. I was just making a point of reference. I mean, Bandana Dee isn't exactly what you call the face of Kirby. So please, do not automatically dismiss me as a detractor, as I was just adding my two cents. I'm sure Sakurai can make him work, as he can with any character. It's just my opinion that Bandana Dee doesn't seem to exactly "fit the bill" for a Smash Bros. newcomer. A more accurate analogy, it'd be like having Princess Shroob playable. She represents her game well, although not recurring, she would still work.
I somewhat agree with this. Yes, he is starting to rise up in importance, and slowly making his way as his own character. He seems to be a higher rank than most minion characters, so that seems to set him apart. But, comparing him to those characters seems to be a bit unfair. Although I haven't played Xenoblade, I'm pretty sure that Shulk is the face of that game. Whether he would work on Smash or not, I'm not sure. I'm also not sure whether or not Shulk was a one-time thing or not in Xenoblade chronicles, but that we'll have to wait and see for in X. (Please, no Xenoblade spoilers.) But, I find it extremely unfair to compare Bandana Waddle Dee to Ridley. Ridley has deserved his own spot for years now, more than any other character, I'd say. He is the most occuring Metroid villain, not to mention Samus' archenemy, and the reason she is who she is. Ridley has been in 8/11 Metroid games, and his spot should be well reserved right next to Mario, Luigi, Link, Samus, etc. This thread gives reasons why Ridley is really the most deserving newcomer out of anyone right now. smashboards.com/threads/the-ridley-for-ssb4-thread-living-in-the-detractors-paradise.324284/ I guess it's fair to put Bandana Dee at the same level of deserving as Dixie, because, although they both well represent their series, they aren't exactly the faces of them either.
Well, Princess Shroob is important in only one game and nobody cares about her XD Also, Bandana Dee doesn't appear in Kirby's Return to Dreamland only, he appears in Super Star, Super Star Ultra, Mass Attack, Dream Collection, Triple Deluxe and also Rainbow Curse, the new Wii U Kirby game.
I think he was trying to say that Bandana Dee has the same chances, not the same history.
Yeah, Captain Toad makes more sense. I just used Princess Shroob as an example, because, although Bandana Dee is very recurring, arguably, the one game where his importance really stands out is RTDL. I guess I was a bit vague with what exactly I meant. No, there are technically no chances of whether a character will be in or not. (Of course Sakurai just puts the face of every Nintendo character on a roulette board and just hopes for the best!) But yeah, in reality it seems to be all about the compatibility of a character, chosen way before development. Perhaps I should rephrase what I said, to that Ridley seems to deserve the role of a newcomer the most, currently, imo. We got Bowser, Dedede, Donkey Kong, Ganondorf, who, are for the most part, the big baddies of their games. Ridley is to me, the only deserving Metroid rep, and has been wanted in every game. Although I do like Bandana Dee, he's a fan favorite, I suppose. But, imo, Ridley should be priority over Bandana Dee, as he only began to rise in importance over the recent years.
Ignore my avatar, please XD No haha, it's only a joke, I like Ridley.
I'd be perfectly fine if Bandana Dee was playable, even if he technically has a moveset already, Sakurai is a genius! This is the man who gave Pac-Man a moveset. I also love Kirby franchise, played it since the first game for GB. (Although Kirby and the Amazing Mirror is my favorite.) I really wish I never lost my original Kirby cartridge.Ignore my avatar, please XD No haha, it's only a joke, I like Ridley.
Bandana Dee is my most wanted newcomer and my favorite Kirby character (Kirby is also one of my favorite franchises), but yeah, you are right, Ridley IS the most deserving character, he is important, iconic and Metroid really deserves another character, K.Rool is in a similar situation, but Ridley is the most deserving character in my opinion.
And thanks to you for being so respectful
I think that it will be with a Kirby and DDD at the start with MK and Bandana Dee being unlockable or it could be like brawl with Kirby MK and DDD at the beginning with Bandana Dee as an unlockable. I know this is irrelevant, but I noticed that Kirby was the only series with multiple characters that had not secret characters. Did anyone else noticed that?
I think Kirby and Dedede will be in from the start, Meta-Knight they will probably make an unlockable, and Bandana Dee too
That's what I'm expecting as well.
Probably because both Meta Knight and Dedede were top requests for Brawl... and a little Sakurai bias.
Well if you ask me, Meta Knight seems more like unlockable character material. Dedede is a staple in the Kirby franchise, there's only like one(?) Kirby game he hasn't made an appearance in.
Oh I forgot to mention that part. So yeah, with that said it made perfect sense as to why he wasn't unlockable in Brawl.
That's a good idea. Mabye it will be like with Roy and Dr.Mario where you need to complete classic with certain conditions as Kirby, DDD, or Meta Knight.
Oh sorry for the accusation. I just saw the part about Goombario and couldn't believe it. So who's making the Princess Shroob support thread ?
Although I'm here talking about Bandana Dee, I do think Shulk and Ridley should get in before Bandana Dee since Xenoblade is an up and coming franchise for Nintendo along with the now first party Monolith. Ridley is such a recognizable villain. Forget how requested he is. Regardless of demand he has a ton going for him and if he was never a boss in Brawl then I have a hunch the whole too big argument would be far less prevalent. (I shouldn't really have to say this stuff, well just look at my sig.)
You're probably right although I wouldn't be surprised if only Kirby is a starter. It depends on how big the starting roster is.
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Wow, is it unusual that I never noticed Ridley in your avatar? Ha. Its great by the way.
My only issue too with Shulk being in Smash is that he's the face of Xenoblade Chronicles for Wii and that's it. Players will have avatars they can customize in the new game, no longer making him the face of the series unless for whatever reason as the franchise goes on, Shulk will represent it even if he's only ever in the first game. I LOVE Xenoblade Chronicles and want a rep for the game... but bluntly I won't be sad if he doesn't make it either. In all honestly I thought he was the least interesting character in his party. I literally like all the other characters more than I like Shulk. He's kind of a yawn. Geeky tech talent must MAN UP and save world/show them all . Boring troupe where as you had caring brother and war veteran, girl with kingdom on her shoulders, widow dealing with the death of her husband, whatever the **** Rikki is, etc. I do want Shulk in if it definitely means I can see the other characters. I want his final smash to be a chain attack with Reyn and Sharla.
Does Bandana Dee even have any other competition from the series? All I can think of are a bunch of Dark Matter type one off enemies and why would those be playable in smash? After thinking about this, it would be rad if there was a new Kirby game that was somewhat heavier on the story and introduced a bunch of new characters. I feel the series is kind of sparse in the character department. Still love the games though.
Really? There'll be customizable avatars? That sorta makes me wonder, if Shulk will be put in a Snake situation and be like really old in X. (Man, I wish I had a copy of Xenoblade so much.)
