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Balloon Fighter For Smash 4

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Hypercat-Z

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I quote that. I think his attack would be mostly kick based, since he used his soles the most in his game.
How would his balloons work? Well, I see it like this:
He starts with two ballons but as B + down attack he can add another one. But does it slowly and he can't have more than three balloons, just like in the battle mode of Mario Kart. Each balloon can be destroyed, making him lose his flying ability proportionally, and repristinated in upper said way.
Since this implies he has a pump, and since the game is developed by Namco he might borrow some moves from Dig Dug. Why not? Nintendo gave the moves of Bub & Bob to a little Yoshi. This wouldn't be stranger. He could even have the color scheme of Dig Dug as alt suit.
 

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If Balloon Fighter gets in, I hope his stage is Pencilvania from Balloon Kid. I've always liked the idea of skyscrapers designed after pencils and erasers. It could be the new Saffron City or the new Fourside.

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If Balloon Fighter gets in, I hope his stage is Pencilvania from Balloon Kid. I've always liked the idea of skyscrapers designed after pencils and erasers. It could be the new Saffron City or the new Fourside.

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I hope it does happen since Balloon Kid is considered a sequel to Balloon Fight.

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I hope it does happen since Balloon Kid is considered a sequel to Balloon Fight.

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Yes. And people tend to forget about Balloon Kid. At least Pencilvania should live on through Balloon Fighter, should he get in Smash. It would be pretty cool if the art style was somewhat like the Balloon Fight attraction in Nintendo Land. :awesome:

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I don't forget about Balloon kid, I just liked Balloon fighter better
 

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So Ballon Fight was announced as the first of the .30 cents games for the 30th anniversary of the Famicom. The others 5?

Balloon Fight today thru 2/21
F-Zero 2/20-3/21
Punch Out 3/20 - 4/18
Kirby's Adventure 4/17 - 5/16
Super Metroid 5/15 - 6/13
Yoshi 6/12 - 7/11
Donkey Kong 7/15 - 8/13

I think Nintendo is using this opportunity to bring attention to the "less popular" series. Balloon Fight and Punch Out stand out- especially because Little Mac is considered a huge contender for the next installment.

I don't know guys, I really think Nintendo is pushing the Balloon Fight franchise (through Nintendo Land and now the first virtual console release for the Wii U).

I think Balloon Fighter's chances are being overlooked :)
 

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Don't forget that Balloon Fight was also a 3DS Ambassador title and that it's sequel (Balloon Kid) is available on the 3DS eShop. If this plus what you said isn't a sign of Balloon Fight making a huge comeback then everyone must be crazy. Sakurai tested Balloon Fighter in the Melee days and now's the perfect chance to look at him again!
 

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Yeah. I agree that Balloon Fighter seems like a strong retro candidate now. I'm warming up to the idea of Balloon Fighter in Smash but there are still other retro characters I'd rather see get in Smash before him but he's still a solid choice!

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Yes. And people tend to forget about Balloon Kid. At least Pencilvania should live on through Balloon Fighter, should he get in Smash. It would be pretty cool if the art style was somewhat like the Balloon Fight attraction in Nintendo Land. :awesome:

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Interestingly, Japan never actually got the original Balloon Kid game until it was released on 3DS Virtual Console. Same with the Kid Icarus Game Boy game. That could explain it's abscence from Nintendo's regular references to Balloon Fight.

I don't know guys, I really think Nintendo is pushing the Balloon Fight franchise (through Nintendo Land and now the first virtual console release for the Wii U).
I definitely agree with this. Balloon Fight is getting a lot of attention at the moment. Aside from introducing the Famicom 30th anniversary and being the inspiration for a Nintendo Land game, it's also has two special episodes of a popular Japanese retro games show dedicated to it over the last few months, with Iwata himself appearing in one of them. It's not like they were shy about referencing its music or anything in games before, but now there definitely seems to be a push to bring it further into the public eye.

I saw a really nice moveset image a while ago that used the game sprites and used elements from the game for the moves. I'll try and find it and post it here.
 

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Interestingly, Japan never actually got the original Balloon Kid game until it was released on 3DS Virtual Console. Same with the Kid Icarus Game Boy game. That could explain it's abscence from Nintendo's regular references to Balloon Fight.
Actually, Japan did get Balloon Kid but it was for Game Boy Color in 2000 whereas North America got it for the original Game Boy in 1990. That's why Balloon Kid is in color in the Japanese 3DS eShop and black-and-white in the North American 3DS eShop.
 

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Actually, Japan did get Balloon Kid but it was for Game Boy Color in 2000 whereas North America got it for the original Game Boy in 1990. That's why Balloon Kid is in color in the Japanese 3DS eShop and black-and-white in the North American 3DS eShop.
Ah, I forgot about the GBC version. Still though, not getting the original must have obscured it somewhat, and it's not terribly well-known anyway. I love the game myself, but I don't think Alice would get in over the Balloon Fighter.
 

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Gosh, its amazing how unique BF would be and how much he could bring to smash.

I saw a moveset somewhere where his final smash was "Balloon Trip" That would be amazing!
 

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Wow, that moveset is beastly. I'm with the Takamaru crowd, but I'm sowly being sold on Balloon Fighter. I think the idea that his FS would be Ballon Trip could be pretty interesting, although...


I imagined it as moving the stage far to the right suddenly, and that seems kind of imbalanced, as everyone else would just die.
 

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I think he should have attacks that directly involve using his balloons such as an attack that pops his balloon.

That way, the whole idea of having the pump the balloons adds more to his moveset.

The popping balloon could be a move that, while in the air, forces him downward (Or side to side) rapidly
 

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I think he should have attacks that directly involve using his balloons such as an attack that pops his balloon.

That way, the whole idea of having the pump the balloons adds more to his moveset.

The popping balloon could be a move that, while in the air, forces him downward (Or side to side) rapidly
My move set back on page 2 may have gotten lost so I'll repost. Bit it has what I think you're talking about :)



If the image is complicated I can repost the explantation too haha

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Wow, that moveset is beastly. I'm with the Takamaru crowd, but I'm sowly being sold on Balloon Fighter. I think the idea that his FS would be Ballon Trip could be pretty interesting, although...


I imagined it as moving the stage far to the right suddenly, and that seems kind of imbalanced, as everyone else would just die.
Maybe it could just move in a bunch of lightning balls from the side of the stage without moving the stage itself. Maybe flood the bottom of the stage and bring the fish in, too. Everybody has to jump around avoiding the lightning balls, making sure not to fall off into the water.

That moveset is nice. But about his design, do you want him 2d like g&w, or 3d?
Definitely a 3D redesign like the other NES era characters.

I think he should have attacks that directly involve using his balloons such as an attack that pops his balloon.

That way, the whole idea of having the pump the balloons adds more to his moveset.

The popping balloon could be a move that, while in the air, forces him downward (Or side to side) rapidly
The only problem I have with that is that he never does that in his games. I know Smash movesets don't always strictly follow the games, but I think they should try and use elements from the original Balloon Fight as much as they can.
 

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The only problem I have with that is that he never does that in his games. I know Smash movesets don't always strictly follow the games, but I think they should try and use elements from the original Balloon Fight as much as they can.
Ice Climbers say hi.
 

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Ice Climbers had nothing to work with really. all they did was swing a hammer, which they also no in Smash.
That's right. And Balloon Fighter didn't do anything more other than flapping his wings like a child pretending to be a bird. It shouldn't be an issue. :awesome:
 

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That's right. And Balloon Fighter didn't do anything more other than flapping his wings like a child pretending to be a bird. It shouldn't be an issue. :awesome:
The point is that it's better to take inspiration from the source material where possible. They even did that with the Ice Climbers - the chunks of ice they shoot with Ice Shot were originally used by the Topi enemies to fix the gaps they made in the ice in Ice Climber. Same goes with their Belay recovery - that was based on the strategy in multiplayer of bouncing one character on top of the other to create higher up gaps in the ice or to make climbing easier.
 

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I know i might get lynched for this (and it might have been brought up before). But what if balloon fighter got in ssb4, but he was a mii like in nintendoland? Say for instance he would still be completely his own character but the player could use there own mii for the face of balloon fighter like what was done for balloon trip breeze, it could kill two birds with one stone in the process.
 

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But what if balloon fighter got in ssb4, but he was a mii like in nintendoland? Say for instance he would still be completely his own character but the player could use there own mii for the face of balloon fighter like what was done for balloon trip breeze, it could kill two birds with one stone in the process.
Seems unlikely. Every player in Nintendo Land is a Mii for that matter.

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This would be awesome.

I imagine his speed and mobility being much like Mario's while on the ground, but his balloons making him much more floaty (and borderline aerial) after jumping.

Purely for nostalgic reasons, they should make this work. ^_^
 

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Seems unlikely. Every player in Nintendo Land is a Mii for that matter.:phone:
True but since the balloon fighter doesnt really have that memorable of a mug (or personality) it couldnt hurt to give players the chance to throw themselves in there in a similar fashion. He could end up as a character that represents the new and the old all at once.
 

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True but since the balloon fighter doesnt really have that memorable of a mug (or personality) it couldnt hurt to give players the chance to throw themselves in there in a similar fashion. He could end up as a character that represents the new and the old all at once.
Ice Climbers weren't memorable or had personality before they showed up in Melee. At least Balloon Fight was a better NES game compared to Ice Climber... no wonder it got a Game Boy sequel.
 

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I know i might get lynched for this (and it might have been brought up before). But what if balloon fighter got in ssb4, but he was a mii like in nintendoland? Say for instance he would still be completely his own character but the player could use there own mii for the face of balloon fighter like what was done for balloon trip breeze, it could kill two birds with one stone in the process.
I understand your thinking, but I think Balloon Fighter would better serve to represent his own game. I don't have strong feelings either way on Miis in Smash, but as I said in the Mii thread I think they would suit a mixture of moves from games they star in - Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Pilotwings Resort, that kind of thing. Sort of a modern-day Mr. Game & Watch.

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There is actually a lot I have to say about Balloon Fighter (and Balloon Fight in general). I am not a supporter for the character, though I can say I really enjoyed Balloon Fight (its probably my favorite of the early NES games aside from Super Mario Bros. and Metroid). I will say my thoughts about Balloon Fighter when I have more time. However, one thing to note is that I have seen people asking for Balloon Fighter even before Melee's release.
 
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