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Baby Mario and Baby Luigi duo character?

RomeDogg

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I think that the inclusion of the Ice Climbers in Melee was an intresting idea and they weren't bad characters but Baby Mario and Baby Luigi are deffinately more popular characters in the Nintendo universe. Plus hey they appeared in Mario Kart double dash. So what I was thinking is that Nintendo could deffinatelyt find a way for Baby Mario and Baby Luigi to be a duo character in Brawl. It worked for the climbers so it should work for them and of course I would like to see them with completely different attacks than what Mario or Luigi had in Melee. Does anyone else think this concept would be cool or work for Brawl?
 

iMichael

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Yeah i can see it working without a doubt....hmmm would their final smash be another Chain Chomp?
 

Circus

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I'd be hard pressed to think of a way to make them different from their adult counterparts. And they'd have to have some moves that force them to work together (like the IC's ^B) otherwise it defeats the purpose.

Plus, I generally just don't like the idea of characters essentially being given 2 character slots (Link and Young Link, Mario and Doc Mario). So Baby Mario and Baby Luigi kind of conflict with that.

And if the IC's return, then they should definitely be the only ones to be a pair. If we get more than that, it loses it's uniqueness.
 

Talendime

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There are already too many characters included from the mushroom world, so I really doubt something like this.
 

Smile Guy

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I've had the idea knocking around in my head for quite some time. I appreciate that people don't like Mushroom Kingdom getting so many representatives but Baby Mario & Baby Luigi could be very unique and, if (and only if) the Ice Climbers were cut, would be the natural sucessor.

Just my two cents.
 

maxpower1227

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If there's another duo, it should be Diddy/Dixie. I agree with Circus - Mario and Luigi are already in the roster (yes, I'm assuming that Luigi will be confirmed... probably not a huge leap of faith), so wasting character slots with another iteration of the same characters would be bad. Kinda like throwing in WW Link.
 

RBinator

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It could work, but I don't support this pair if only because I think they should be really careful if they decide to include anyone else from the Mario games. I rather have the character slots be used for more characters from series that already shown up in Melee, plus all new series. There's still one major thing Ice Climbers have over the Baby Bros., retro factor.

Now as for the two showing up in the form of an AT, sure. Also, I'm pretty sure the topic had to be created before somewhere.
 

Fawriel

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wasting character slots with another iteration of the same characters would be bad. Kinda like throwing in WW Link.
Yeah. WWLink, who is just like Link. I mean, he's blond and wears green and stuff. Okay, he lives in a completely different place in a completely dfferent time or maybe dimension, doesn't have any idea of the existence of the almighty adjective-less Link and has a completely different personality. But they're totally the same thing.

Oh yeah, and the idea.. well, I have nothing to add.
Plus, beating up little babies would be just.. wrong.
There's a reason why they only appear in sports games as PCs.
 

maxpower1227

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Yeah. WWLink, who is just like Link. I mean, he's blond and wears green and stuff. Okay, he lives in a completely different place in a completely dfferent time or maybe dimension, doesn't have any idea of the existence of the almighty adjective-less Link and has a completely different personality. But they're totally the same thing.
Ugh, spare me all the "timeline" crap. It's a convoluted mess that Nintendo just whipped up to satisfy fanboys who DEMANDED a Zelda timeline, which now causes them to go out of their way to differentiate all the different games with their "different" Links. The Links are all the same Link... and unless I'm mistaken Wind Waker took place in a flooded Hyrule, not a "different dimension".

I'm pretty sure that if fans demanded a Mario "timeline", we'd end up with several different generations of characters all named "Mario", "Bowser" and "Peach/Princess Toadstool/etc". It's just stupid.
 

MauFonseca

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I think they are to inocent for SSB. I know that Pichu, Pikachu, JugglyPuff, Ness and teh Ice Climbers also look inocent in SSBM, but somewhat, BM and BL are some characters I don't want to see in SSB
 

DarkWolf123

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It's a cool idea, but i don't see it happening... But lets say they did make it, what kind of attacks do you think they would have, besides chain chomp?
 

Diggabob

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more than one duo character(s) would be not bad. maybe they could put diddy and dixy kong that would be an idea for duo too.
i dont realy like mario and luigi babies because there too much mario rip offs.
 

RBinator

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On the subject of beating up girls and babies, well, you already get to beat up a baby mouse (Pichu) and I have a feeling Kirby falls somewhere close to the baby zone. Seriously, is Kirby really that old at all? Plus you get to beat up princesses who shown little to no combat skills in their own games where they were mostly helpless and had to be rescued quite often.

Since two people brought it up in this topic now, why should Diddy Kong be forced to share the spotlight with Dixie Kong? Wouldn't Diddy do just fine on his own?

Topic hi-jacked, but what topic around here doesn't go off topic?
 

SMBEffect

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I disagree with the fact that they are extremely alike to thier older counterparts, because they really don't do mnay of the things that they do.

The idea sounds pretty good, but should we want more Mario characters in the mix? It kind of depends whether or not you think that Mario is Nintendo's biggest franchise.
 

Fawriel

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On the subject of beating up girls and babies, well, you already get to beat up a baby mouse (Pichu) and I have a feeling Kirby falls somewhere close to the baby zone. Seriously, is Kirby really that old at all? Plus you get to beat up princesses who shown little to no combat skills in their own games where they were mostly helpless and had to be rescued quite often.
Pichu is a Pokemon, which automatically makes him a potential fighter. It's what they do in the game...
Kirby is tiny, but he defeated some big bad guys before in his life... he's far from helpless or anything. Kirby's a warrior!

The princesses... are about as bad as it'll get. Zelda is quite the respectable user of magic. The way she confidently stands on the battlefield, you wouldn't wanna walk up to her saying she doesn't belong in a battlefield.
Peach... is comically overpowered. "Aww, I can't get myself to beat up a helpless - Holy crap she's beating ME up!" But if you stop to think about what you're doing when you star KO her and she goes "Woohoahaa..." it IS pretty awkward.

But no amount of comic style, confidence or overpoweredness could make beating up babies in diapers stop being wrong.
 

RBinator

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Pichu is a Pokemon, which automatically makes him a potential fighter. It's what they do in the game...
Kirby is tiny, but he defeated some big bad guys before in his life... he's far from helpless or anything. Kirby's a warrior!

The princesses... are about as bad as it'll get. Zelda is quite the respectable user of magic. The way she confidently stands on the battlefield, you wouldn't wanna walk up to her saying she doesn't belong in a battlefield.
Peach... is comically overpowered. "Aww, I can't get myself to beat up a helpless - Holy crap she's beating ME up!" But if you stop to think about what you're doing when you star KO her and she goes "Woohoahaa..." it IS pretty awkward.

But no amount of comic style, confidence or overpoweredness could make beating up babies in diapers stop being wrong.
I never said Pichu or Kirby were harmless, just saying what they were regardless if in Kirby's case, he takes on many kinds of challenges.

That's one of the beauties of Smash, the humor factor, like when Peach pwns Bowser after him kidnapping her many times in the Mario games.

Wrong or not, is it really gonna matter in the long run is it? It's not like the violence is realistic or anything. Besides, doesn't similar stuff happen to young cartoon characters quite often on TV? Heck I'll beat up the Baby Bros. and not feel any shame or guilt simply because it was a video game, a humorous one with silly "violence" at that. Also, you can already abuse the babies in Mario Kart Double Dash in similar ways that you can do to characters in Smash. Sure it's not quite to the same extent, but it's still cartoon violence not meant to be taken seriously (which is what this topic seems to be turning into).
 

Truth87

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This maybe way of the path were discussing but i think snake should not be a character do

to consider he is from a SONY PLASTATION game not a nintendo game or a nintendo system

there for he shouldent have been able to be in the game as a playable character but the

Baby Mario & Baby Luigi duo characters would be able to replace him!
 

maxpower1227

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This maybe way of the path were discussing but i think snake should not be a character do

to consider he is from a SONY PLASTATION game not a nintendo game or a nintendo system

there for he shouldent have been able to be in the game as a playable character but the

Baby Mario & Baby Luigi duo characters would be able to replace him!
Uh...

1) Metal Gear was an NES game
2) What language is that?
 

RBinator

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To add, how can you replace a newcomer? Also, it wasn't all that long ago (2003) where the remake of Metal Gear Solid shown up only on the GameCube.
 

L_Cancel

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Maybe Baby Mario should just appear in Yoshi's final smash. I don't know what he'd do exactly, but it just seems fitting for him to be riding Yoshi. It most likely won't happen, but you never know. =P
 

1wingedangel

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Oh no! please don't add them. Everyone who played super mario bros. 2 knows how they cried if you got hit. And I think it wouldn't be that nice to hear to them always crying when they take a hit.

Or how do you think about their screaming? Cause this is just my own opinion.

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Sgt.Frog

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So it wasn't just me who thought this, SsB needs more dynamic duos, none other than these two. They'd be awesome, incoming chain chomp final smash!
 

SonicMario

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Oh no! please don't add them. Everyone who played super mario bros. 2 knows how they cried if you got hit. And I think it wouldn't be that nice to hear to them always crying when they take a hit.

Or how do you think about their screaming? Cause this is just my own opinion.

greets

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Not to correct you but it was Super Mario World 2 (Or Yoshi's Island if you prefer:p). Super Mario Bros. 2 was that weird one that ended up being a dream at the end.
 

Aeramis

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I would rather see them AT with all the playable mario characters we got already but if they did ever make it yay I guess.
 

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Neutral B: Baby Mario and Baby Luigi both make fireballs, and each throw them over their heads in an arc. The baby in the lead’s fireball will fall shorter than the one in the back.

Forward B: The player controlled baby, throws the CPU baby (if near) forward, and the CPU baby spins like a top, with their hammer out, afterwards becoming dizzy for a few minutes, before synchronizing back with the other.

Up B: If both babies are close, they will join together, and start jumping rope very fast. The speed with lift them into the air, letting them hover around for a short bit of time. If the player controlled baby is alone, he will still perform this, unlike the ICs, but it will not go as far as it would when combined.

Down B: Each baby pulls out a chain chomp, and throws them into much like Onix from the first game. They then fall straight down over two opponents. The move can only be used again once the chain chomps have come and gone, and they can damage the babies as well.

FS: Both babies cry loudly, creating large spike word balloons that float slowly forward. The attack has more range if both babies are facing opposite directions.
 
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