Attention!!! We as a community have to make Ike a better character!

[mikeb2010]

When I think about how people are playing, I realize that in SSBB, there will be 4 types of players. If your play SSBB, you will either be a Bumb, a Noob, a Good Player, or a Great Player. In most cases though, much of this depends on what character they main, metagame, etc. Just about everything concerning a tactic or advance technique except adjusting to the situation and certain playstyle of the person they are facing. This is a problem for Ikes because most Good to Great Ikes play the same. Because of this, people think that Ike is a breeze because they see the same thing over and over. What I am proposing is that we must try everything possible with Ike to make him more than what he is now.

Because Ike does not have to many advanced techniques, we must focus on developing more and more advanced techniques. Im not saying that what has been discovered so far is not sufficient overcoming the average problems of an average player. I am saying that If Ike is to be a serious threat, we must do things that has not been done before. This means different controller setups, looking for breaks and cracks frames (if there is any) of his moves, and anything else that is not discussed on a regular basis.

In my opinion, we have become to comfortable with the way Ike is now and because of that, more people post unimportant things and killing the Ike Board. In conclusion, I propose that we post more vids, develop more topics concerning new discoveries with Ike and not being afraid to state that we are Ike players and we will demolish anybody opposer that impedes our progress to the top.

Check out my other "important" threads I posted recently:


Ike Alternative Edge Game: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=178333

Mega Bait Tactic: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=178314

Ike: Championship Calibur Character or Noob Buster?: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=177150


No im not preaching to you. Im just trying to inspire you.



mikeb2010:
B.K.A. - Beezy
A.K.A - Kung Fu Panda (lol)


P.S.: Please respond!!!!

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

I'm not sure if he has any ATs but we should just try and get rid of these threads 1st

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=178789

 

[mikeb2010]

lol. Yeah we should. It was late and I my WoW was actin crazy so i posted somethin crazy.

 

[WeLikeIke]

That was some f*ckin speech, man.

 

[F5Hazardousdoc]

Already on it... I've picked up ike as my 3rd, and hes already busting n00bs and beating some semi-pros. XD

 

[Falconv1.0]

We as a community have already failed.

 

[comboking]

well my matchup thread should help

 

[mikeb2010]

It is and i thank you for assisting me in this effort.

 

[comboking]

your welcome

 

[handsockpuppet]

We as a community have already failed.

QTF

ur boards are filled with spam. Iunno who the "we" is directed to.

Edit: didn't feel like making a new post, but comboking is colling OTHER people newbs? maybe this isn't that much like the Roy forums after all.

 

[comboking]

well it is the noobs that come here and do that with these stupid topics like

Mike's Jumping F-Smash thread. even though it was pretty funny

 

[PltnmNgl]

We as a community have already failed.

But it doesn't mean we can't recover. Ike was my very first brawl main. The opposition against him in the game was not the problem for me, but the community pushed me away from him for a long while.

 

[FrznSaber]

Overall, Mike is right. We got to find something to give Ike more of an edge to compete with other characters with their varied AT's. Any bit of help would best benefit the community. And a reminder to those who gave up on Ike already (I doubt they would be back to read this, but...) the game is fairly new. It didn't come out not too long ago, and it's never too late to make new finds.

@Comboking
Match-up thread should come in handy, possibly can be better improved by adding other statistics and best stages to use as counterpick according to opposing character and and playing style, etc.


And Arturito is right. We also have to stop with pointless posts to make the board with only useful information.

 

[comboking]

well I am going to do that but I want to get at least a paragraph for each character before I go to much in depth. Plus I need people to give me ideas and stuff for stages. (I mean people from the other character boards)

 

[Takeshi245]

This is stupid. You can't make a character better because a character's design is set in stone already. Their abilities are already set and there's nothing you can do about it. It would be meaningless to do so. I think what you mean is that people need to get better with Ike. Unfortunately, Ike isn't actually a tournament winner due to the other counter characters he has that give him major trouble (Snake and Dedede just to name a couple). Players need to get smarter. That's all. It still won't change the fact that Ike isn't a good character for the most part. There's nothing much to him in the first place.

 

[alchfilosofer]

^
Actually half of the marth greatness is because of the community, we already discobered some things, and Emblem Lord was super hard core in the first months, now we're a bit more relaxed and not so focused in meta-game evolution, but as the grab release treat is still growing, we have a long long way.

 

[Falconv1.0]

But it doesn't mean we can't recover.

But I seriously ****ing doubt we will.

 

[Bouse]

Well, the things the few "intelligent" people in the Ike community just need to learn is that people who are new to the game will always be attracted to Ike. He seems the simplest and best of all characters. He has a low technical learning curve and has high powered moves that kill easy.
These forums will always have their share of idiots, new people, and generally confused sociopaths. They will believe Ike to be overpowered and if you tell them "No, he's actually quite mediocre..." they will verbally assault you 75% of the time. However it is through intelligent posts and modest discourse that we must not only educate these people, but go so far degrade those who speak unintelligibly about Ike's "overpowered" attacks. The moral destruction of these people, and the rejection of an online community for their stupidity might be the only thing they could ever understand.
That being said...
Have a nice day.

 

[-DemowiI-]

good point 'mikeb2010', i just got brawl...3 days ago (uk release!) im currently maining ike + pt, so this will be very helpful, great job!

 

[null55]

well it is the noobs that come here and do that with these stupid topics like

Mike's Jumping F-Smash thread. even though it was pretty funny

Comboking, you've made one possibly useful thread out of literally eight thousand. I'd calm down if I were you.

 

[S.R. XXVII]

This is stupid. You can't make a character better because a character's design is set in stone already. Their abilities are already set and there's nothing you can do about it. It would be meaningless to do so. I think what you mean is that people need to get better with Ike. Unfortunately, Ike isn't actually a tournament winner due to the other counter characters he has that give him major trouble (Snake and Dedede just to name a couple). Players need to get smarter. That's all. It still won't change the fact that Ike isn't a good character for the most part. There's nothing much to him in the first place.

^This.


10Smokefaces

 

[XACE-K]

Ike won't become better but by practicing with him a lot you can make yourself a better Ike mainer and beat a good MK or Dedede if you're lucky or good enough.

 

[mikeb2010]

well it is the noobs that come here and do that with these stupid topics like

Mike's Jumping F-Smash thread. even though it was pretty funny

It was late and I wasnt doin anything. U callin me a noob? I probably seem that way cause I dont have any vids up and I only have a lil bit of post. But trust me, I have developed a mindset when It comes to video gaming that not too many people have. Just take the time out and read my next Topic post. You'll see what I mean.


Playing for Fun??? I stand out from the crowd & and I play to WIN!!!: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=179372

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

It was late and I wasnt doin anything. U callin me a noob? I probably seem that way cause I dont have any vids up and I only have a lil bit of post. But trust me, I have developed a mindset when It comes to video gaming that not too many people have. Just take the time out and read my next Topic post. You'll see what I mean.


Playing for Fun??? I stand out from the crowd & and I play to WIN!!!: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=179372

Don't worry comboking has 1,200 posts and hes still a nub post counts don't really matter he has made like 1 useful post so far.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Takeshi245 View Post
This is stupid. You can't make a character better because a character's design is set in stone already. Their abilities are already set and there's nothing you can do about it. It would be meaningless to do so. I think what you mean is that people need to get better with Ike. Unfortunately, Ike isn't actually a tournament winner due to the other counter characters he has that give him major trouble (Snake and Dedede just to name a couple). Players need to get smarter. That's all. It still won't change the fact that Ike isn't a good character for the most part. There's nothing much to him in the first place.

^This.


10Smokefaces

well thats kinda stupid because most AT's are glitches wavedashing wasn't put in melee on purpose. theres still a chance that he can get better even if its a small one.

 

[eroninja562]

I would say that any character can become deadly if used correctly. Not to disagree with anyone here, but, I believe Ike can be devastating. Ike mains do have to be skilled in order for anyone to take him seriously though.

 

[d snyde]

We do need to make Ike look better. I try my best but I need to learn more. Any advice will work. Go Ike

 

[d snyde]

Playing for Fun??? I stand out from the crowd & and I play to WIN!!!: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=179372[/QUOTE]

We should play for fun. But we need to keep in mind that Ike needs to show others that he is better so also play to win. it is kinda doing both at the same time!

 

[OmegaXF]

The community won't fail unless everyone gives up on him. And I'm positive that ain't happening.

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

guys check the dates of the last post next time this conversation is long dead.

 

[Falconv1.0]

I' like facepalming so hard right now it's not even funny.

Mikeb was an annoying noob, that was it. Go do something useful now, dont resurrect his pointless discussions.

 

[Johnthegalactic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBob8j8DRe4&feature=related

to make Ike a better character, you guys must, get him off crack and heroin.

 

[WoodyWiggins]

^^^ Slightly Funny.

I'll help. I have a riduculous amount of useless techniques that I need to release before my brain explodes. Excuse me for saying this, but, *ahem* maybe the reason Ike isn't as great as the rest of the cast is because of his speed, and the lack of items, and his heaviness. But he does have insanely sick attacks, so this should be fun.

 

[HW_Dark Link]

I have played Ike more than any other character but I just cant seem to play him on against pro players. U know wat its like to b almost forced to change ur main! It sux...

 

[Calm101]

i think mind games would greatly help, the thing that people don't realize is that ike can be fast.. if your saying we should try to research IKE into something that none would expect.. i agree lol

 

[HW_Dark Link]

I k he can b fast but it doesnt leave the fact that if ur playing a indirect/defensive player ur ina BAD situation.
Or if ir playing a person who knows how Ike works its extremely difficult to win...ESPECIALLY ON WIFI Ike lags ENOUGH!

 

[Calm101]

yes but if you have the ability to adapt it shouldn't be that much of a problem i think the only problem most IKEs have is that they can't adapt to playing certain skilled characters because their tactics are narrow minded. i think this is partly to do with limitations concerning IKE, but i am very sure that there is a way around these limitations.

 

[HW_Dark Link]

plz tell me more
maybe Its just the lag on wifi idk
Im thinkin of giving up wifi its pathetic...**** nintendo

 

[Lawlb0t]

If you want Ike to get a better representation ,then all the noobs here that don't go to tournaments, either start going or gtfo. Theres so much bull**** on the Ike boards, its ********.