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Interesting question. I honestly think that Snake can use his grenades in every match up to his advantage in some way. But I can tell you situations where you shouldn't. Playing characters like marth/TL/falco/pit where they can use projectiles or eat your shield is dangerous. Having low shields and grenades next to you only corner you more and gives them more pressure options to get you in there. You have to be disciplined and smart with them till it feels natural. Blowing yourself up only gives yourself damage and gives enemy position advantage.
I know that this is Razer's thread but I might as well answer you quickly. When you have been hit, if you press shield just as you would hit a surface you wont bounce off. This can be very useful and save you from things like Marth's Up B which will spike you against the stage. Hope that helped.
Yeah that's exactly what I was talking about thanks a lot. Can you do it with shield and grab (like either button)? Also can you do that if land on your back on stage and don't wana get infinitely lazered by like falco.
I don't think you can do it with grab, although I'm not sure. I would shield to be safe. And yeah you can do it onstage! It's pretty cool, the characters do quick little backflips and get up. Same thing, shield as you would hit the stage.
Thanks, I will have to try it with grab. I use L for grab and I airdodge with it sometimes so if it doesn't work then I'll have to adjust to shield ;P
Yeah, using different buttons can be tough. Best of luck dude , hope it helps your game!
Your wasting time trying to crouch. Jab has a interrupt state which we commonly refer to as IASA. Your crouch will common out on this frame the soonest. But, its also the same frame you could have inputted the grab. You are being slower trying to get the crouch first. Either buffer (input grab within 10 frames before IASA) or time it properly. About getting up off the ledge I have no suggestions since I am not sure even after like 3 years of playing lol
Thanks Xeylode. Is that advice the same for falco's jab grab as well?
What??? Meta Knight has something that isn't good???
Read page one. The question was already asked. You can always run or duck to avoid them and then jab and ftilt 1 to get them off you. I think razer would agree with that.
I can't remember from the top of my head of a set. I've had some team sets I've loved and some close single sets with people like Dojo or Gnes. Although, I remember a set in January of 2009 where I played Infinity in loser finals in a regional. I was on the rise and everyone was watching. It was like 3 in the morning. Game 5 and I was down about a 100%. I thought I was going to lose. I don't even remember it much, but I remember getting a down grab. Then another. Another read. And another. I read him the whole way and finished it. After that, the crowd jumped on my back and everyone was cheering. I ended up splitting to Lee Martin due to time constraints, but that was a really awesome moment in my career. I don't think it was recorded sadly
lol. Me vs Dphat doing the exodia was cool too 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLUSBrHe8YwUm, from what I see at 2:50, I jumped back and did a bair near the floor. I got up and pressed jab in the opposite direction (this was a mistake). I realize it was and simply turned around after the jab animation completed. Just gotta learn how to be smooth with Snake's moves. Jab is quick and has a relatively quick cool down.
I believe I posted that on the first page so you can reference that. I usually try to jab them off. If that doesn't work, up tilt. I think there's a position where you can't though. So if those 2 options don't work. You might want to just shield and spot dodge the hits.
Absolutely. I really felt like Brawl died down, especially in TX. Along with the metagame, less players showed up, less competitive spirit and just wasn't the same as the first couple of years. I plan to attend whobo next month and possibly another tournament. I'm very excited for smash 4 and after the new direct, I'm hyped. It looks different which is good. I hope that this can be the true bridge for smash fans of every game.
Agreed. I'm very excited for the game. Even though I've been a pretty decent Brawl player, I've never been to a tournament. But for Smash 4, I plan to. Maybe we can play sometime.
Smash 4
Nope, never have lost to a Lucas. Mekos is the only one to give me a little trouble in pools before, Lucas relies A LOT on spacing and auto cancelling his nair in your shield. He uses PK fire a lot and just tries to be really slippery. Watch auto cancels dairs, fairs and nairs. They like to try and put pressure when they can. Just use proper grenades (they can't attack your shield if you have one) and proper ftilts which out prioritizes a lot of his moves. Try to read their landings since they jump a lot and do a good dash attack. Use grenades to pressure and try to convert up close with them. Also, check on grab release. I think you can ground grab release to ftilt or maybe uptilt.
Sorry for being so late lol. After whobo I pretty much quit. But you need to have great spacing and zoning. Warios are always in the air vs you. Make sure you use grenades as walls so they can't just jump in and dair your shield. Work on reading their movements in the air and mix up with pivot grabs -> down throw chases or nairs. Grab release kill with utilt or even double jump bair which will send them the opposite direction of your feet. Don't let it go to time either. Set up a wall but trap them also and try to punish. Going to time will only give them their favor. Watch their juggles in the air with the waft/uair. Get rid of bike tires or use them against him too.
Was it?! Oh well lol.
Um if the Lucario is Trela, it's 55-45 snake. If not, it's probably 60-40 snake. You have to more or so camp and use safe pokes and aerials and just masterful movement. If you want tips on it, I say just watch Trela videos vs snake lol.
