anti shield pressure

[Bones0]

OOOOHHHHHH lol, my bad. Yeah, I can definitely see how unshielding to get a power shield would be a good option when you're on the ground. It wouldn't make sense to do that on a platform because shield drop is safer and gives you more options, but I could definitely see some good uses for going for a powershield if you know you can pull it off. I still can't help feeling that it wouldn't be worth the risk though. You're much better off just wavedashing back OOS than to try and powershield it. It'd make the punish easier too.

 

[lwouis]

sadly there is no such thing as "ADI."
There is DI which is based on the input of the stick at the frame of impact.
There is smash DI which is when you SMASH the stick while in hitlag.
And there is automatic smash DI which is smash DI based on the direction you're holding the stick on a certain frame prior to knockback. Not sure about the deetz.
Point is if you're crouching then you are already holding down, thus you DI downwards (which doesn't actually stop you from getting knocked back) and you also ASDI downwards, which causes you to bounce off the floor. Hence crouchcancelling is ASDI.


edit: obviously you can also ASDI with the c-stick which is ultimately more useful. but still.

So much nonsense. Don't tell people things if you are unsure man; you are spreading confusion. Educate yourself with the picture below.

Spoiler

 

[Jonas]

CC is not ASDI. CC is an actual feature built into the game that reduces knockback and hitstun when you crouch.

 

[-ACE-]

CC is not ASDI. CC is an actual feature built into the game that reduces knockback and hitstun when you crouch.

It is ASDI down plus 50% reduction of hitlag ( and apparently 67% reduction in kb)

 

[Jonas]

Ok so if you let yourself get Usmashed by Fox when you hold the C-stick down (ASDI), there is a noticable reduction in knockback, but it's much more reduced if you hold down on the control stick (CC and, of course, ASDI at the same time).
Just a quick test that shows that ASDI and CC are, in fact, two different things.

 

[StretchNutz]

Glad we are rehashing things that have already been determined earlier in the thread.

And I'll spread confusion till the day I die.