Another fox grab game question

[JVIV]

So in the last post the general consensus was that fox does not have the worst grab game of the whole roster. But, since fox is widely regarded as top tier, do you guys think fox has the worst grab game of the top tiers?

 

[B-dAWG]

Not at all. Ryu and Yoshi both have far worse grab games. Ryu, despite having many setups into grabs, he can't get much other than d-throw -> f-air. Lack of a kill throw before about 190% and unreliable follow ups make his the worst of the top tier grab games imo. Yoshi however, does get some cool stuff from grabs (d-throw -> u-air -> n-air, or just d-throw -> u-air as a kill confirm). Still, Yoshi's grab is extremely laggy, unsafe to throw out in the neutral, and generally inferior to his neutral b. Fox can get a ton of damage from his throws on top of having numerous setups into grab. He had some fancy air-dodge 50/50's and high damaging setups such as d-throw -> f-air -> u-air to do upwards of 35%.

 

[luke_atyeo]

Ryu CAN break shields with his grab though

 

[Top Boss]

Yoshi has the WORST grab game out of everyone imo. He isn't top tier though, so I'd say Ryu's grab game is the worst of the top tiers.

 

[potter5656]

at least ryus throw does 10%

 

[B-dAWG]

at least ryus throw does 10%

the point is that ryu cant get much after that 10% and there are usually better options available to him