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Am I gimping myself?
- Thread starter Goalie63
- Start date
Yeah, you're playing an extremely limited game with a character that doesn't even have particularly great smash attacks.
25%Cotton
Smash Ace
XD definitely use more utilt and ftilt... try to always have charged needles... i find that not only does it scare the opponent, but it keeps you from accidentally going into a needle charge offstage, freaking out, and dying. you should definitely be edgeguarding, since none of sheik's onstage KO moves are reliable... and a lot of her aerials can actually KO people easily when used off-stage. whip is actually a pretty useful way to edgeguard (when used as a tether)...
um...
dtilt CAN be useful... but only because of it's speed and when against an opponent who is being wary of ftilt...
vanish is actually a pretty cool KO move... it's just hard to pull off.
um...
dtilt CAN be useful... but only because of it's speed and when against an opponent who is being wary of ftilt...
vanish is actually a pretty cool KO move... it's just hard to pull off.
Cobra
Smash Journeyman
You are gimping yourself pretty hardcore there man...I suggest exploring and utilizing her great tilts and air game.
Rapid_Assassin
Smash Master
Tilt: tilt the stick in a direction and press A
You can also change the cstick to "attack"
If you press forward and A and Sheik does something where she kicks her foot in a circle instead of dashing forward twice, you've done a ftilt.
You can also change the cstick to "attack"
If you press forward and A and Sheik does something where she kicks her foot in a circle instead of dashing forward twice, you've done a ftilt.
Supercakes
Smash Rookie
Use her tilts not smashes.
Aside from usmash (which is often difficult to sweetspot), none of Sheik's smashes can KO very well. Fsmash and dsmash won't kill until the mid to late 100s, or even later if you're using them frequently - because of move deterioration.
Cobra
Smash Journeyman
Brawl is not Melee....adapt.
...to play sheik well you're going to need to completely change your way of thinking from the Melee mindset. this includes knowing what a "tilt" is and using edgeguarding/edgehogging techniques. You can't just walk around and spam smashes all day. Maybe that'll work against some, but against higher level opponents you will fail miserably...(also the diminishing returns kills your ability to EVER get a kill with her.)
...to play sheik well you're going to need to completely change your way of thinking from the Melee mindset. this includes knowing what a "tilt" is and using edgeguarding/edgehogging techniques. You can't just walk around and spam smashes all day. Maybe that'll work against some, but against higher level opponents you will fail miserably...(also the diminishing returns kills your ability to EVER get a kill with her.)
Geez cobra thats why I started this so I could change some besides I realized Brawl is not melee when it came out for the Wii and the GC..... and I dont spam smashes Also I do know what a tilt is but I didnt use the term oused here for it
Cobra
Smash Journeyman
...I'm just saying, it seems obvious that you need to expand your current strategies and adapt to the new game. Saying, "...it's hard to change" , doesn't give us much to comment on besides telling you that you need to adapt again and leaving you to do it.
Cobra
Smash Journeyman
Yes. You need to try to change.
...Don't worry though, we all do. I myself need to stop shield-rolling all the time. Like yourself, many of us still have our Melee carry-overs and general bad habits that we need to try to eliminate. Keep at it.
(Well, except Drephen...the Drephen combo is still win, but only when he uses it.)
imdavid
Smash Journeyman
OR.. you can use wolf and just use smashes, his smash attacks are the shizz ;]
Cobra
Smash Journeyman
...Wolf's ftilt is beast. Don't believe it? Check my sig.
popsofctown
Smash Champion
I think what your question boils down to is, Can i reach maximum or near maximum levels of play without tilts? The answer to the question i just recreated is no, you can't.
You could reach maximum or near maximum levels of play without dair, and without dtilt (arguable) and without dash attack (arguable), and without fsmash (unarguably).
All the other Sheik moves need to be in your gameplay style somewhere, or else you definitely are "gimping yourself".
You are better off if you incorporate everything Sheik can do into your game, all the way down to footstool jumping.
You could reach maximum or near maximum levels of play without dair, and without dtilt (arguable) and without dash attack (arguable), and without fsmash (unarguably).
All the other Sheik moves need to be in your gameplay style somewhere, or else you definitely are "gimping yourself".
You are better off if you incorporate everything Sheik can do into your game, all the way down to footstool jumping.
popsofctown
Smash Champion
imdavid isn't trashing wolf's tilts. All he said was "his smash attacks are the shizz".
Cobra
Smash Journeyman
Didn't say he was. really it was just the fact that he said, "or you can use Wolf's Smashes" , as in ..."instead of using tilts, use wolf and Smash attack"
...I took it the next logical step and said, why just use his Smashes when his Ftilt is beast too...
(Wasn't downing him, was just pointing to my signature comedy video)
popsofctown
Smash Champion
*confuses himself and falls asleep*
slickmasterizzy
Smash Apprentice
one of the best things ive found that ive practiced and gotten good at that infinately makes me a better player.
if you can get the timing and the positioning of vanish you will be a god.
a AOE attack with loads of KO potential.
i could write a list sometime but just for one idea.
a friend of mine plays fox alot after some practicing i can now jump off stage and vanish back to it while his UP+B is charging (as he tries to get back) normally trying to melee hit fox while he is "on fire" would only hurt you but vanishing NEXT to him causes 20% and sends him away and leaves plenty of room for you to jump back off the stage and abuse him again.
if you can get the timing and the positioning of vanish you will be a god.
a AOE attack with loads of KO potential.
i could write a list sometime but just for one idea.
a friend of mine plays fox alot after some practicing i can now jump off stage and vanish back to it while his UP+B is charging (as he tries to get back) normally trying to melee hit fox while he is "on fire" would only hurt you but vanishing NEXT to him causes 20% and sends him away and leaves plenty of room for you to jump back off the stage and abuse him again.