Am I a noob at Smash 64?

[thanortinzak]

Am I a noob at Smash 64? I probably am (considering that I've only been playing the game for a week), but I want honest opinions. Watch this video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6gFLGGHsTg and tell me what you think.

 

[SpongeBathBill]

You picked up the game a week ago? Not bad at all.

 

[Wenbobular]

Noob has negative connotations.
You're a newb, someone who's new at the game (by the looks of it, playing keyboard).
Learn some advanced techs, how to do them, and go practice. You'll get the hang of it eventually.
Helps if you have friends.

Things to work on - shorthop aerial zcancel repeat.
And zcanceling in general.

 

[thanortinzak]

Noob has negative connotations.
You're a newb, someone who's new at the game (by the looks of it, playing keyboard).
Learn some advanced techs, how to do them, and go practice. You'll get the hang of it eventually.
Helps if you have friends.

Things to work on - shorthop aerial zcancel repeat.
And zcanceling in general.

Thanks for the advice! And btw, I know how to z-cancel, but for some reason, it doesn't work on the keyboard.

 

[BIGM1994]

The game is stupid,just quit it already and go to melee or brawl.

 

[Fireblaster]

The game is stupid,just quit it already and go to melee or brawl.

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Fair Lawn, New Jersey
Brawl FC: 4983-4650-2580

Ahh figures. Is this guy truly stupid or just a troll?

 

[thanortinzak]

The game is stupid,just quit it already and go to melee or brawl.

Isn't this game (smash 64) supposed to be deeper than brawl?

 

[AranOcean]

The game is stupid,just quit it already and go to melee or brawl.

SSB64 is stupid. It's so stupid, that without it, Melee and Brawl would probably never existed. It's that stupid. Yah. *rolls eyes*

 

[†¹Ãgøn¥¹†]

yeah man 64 sucks, don't play it. Go play a game where you trip and can't do any combos. Man why am I still playing 64?

 

[killa k]

The game is stupid,just quit it already and go to melee or brawl.

u did a fine job at throwin the thread off topic.

neways yea wut wenbo sed. u just gotta learn the advanced techs. ur pretty good 4 a week old player.

 

[Skrlx]

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Fair Lawn, New Jersey
Brawl FC: 4983-4650-2580

Ahh figures. Is this guy truly stupid or just a troll?

he's both.

And yes emmanuel 64 > Melee > Brawl
Also i noticed you have that brawl habit on 64 which is smashing the a button.. remember you're not playing brawl anymore so smashing A is no longer a combo

 

[Deleted member]

yeah man 64 sucks, don't play it. Go play a game where you trip and can't do any combos. Man why am I still playing 64?

Hey Agony wanna do our tourney match soon?

Sunday Afternoon and afterwards I can play

 

[Cryptic C62]

Things to work on for a good falcon:

Teching. You missed a bunch of easy techs in these videos. It's not that hard.

Z cancelling. It most certainly works on keyboard. You're just doing it wrong. Perhaps you're a bit confused on exactly how it works. Check the stickies.

Uair -> Up+B. You already seem comfortable working some simple uair combos, but you definitely need to learn how to string it into an Up+B rather than just sitting on the ground waiting for the opponent to come back.

Edgeguarding. Falcon has much better edgeguarding options than the fair. Learn how to spike effectively with dair, learn how to consistently launch opponents horizontally with uair, and definitely learn how to edge hog.

 

[Wenbobular]

Thanks for the advice! And btw, I know how to z-cancel, but for some reason, it doesn't work on the keyboard.

Keyboard screws everything up. It's just something you have to work on to perfect.
I for one am terrible at short hopping with the keyboard, but there are definitely people who are quite proficient keyboarding (i.e., Nephiros, smoke2joints back when he was still captain BJ on kaillera , nintendude)

My friend Winston (Gustav_winD) doesn't shorthop at all with Falcon. He just plays a dashdance grab UpSmash ground game into dumb Falcon combos...simple but effective

Some pluses to keyboard are...
Really easy DI - just mash buttons
Much better dash dancing

The main negatives are obviously the learning curve and the fact that you can't really do standing tilts, you have to buffer things like uptilts with aerials or something.

Or you could buy an adapter for your N64 controller and use that

(check out our combo video in my sig by the way )

 

[Blue Yoshi]

For only playing for one week, that is pretty good. Though three-stocking a CPU is not something amazing, as they are stupid. You abused stupid CPU qualities, like not using an up-B if used already (first stock), almost never teching, having a very predictable recovery (second stock), dead easy to combo / don't get out of some combos well, and walk into dead-obveous traps (third stock).

I would say at that point, play people online on servers or P2P. That would be the best way for you to improve. You won't get much farther against CPU's, and there definitely are some people near your skill level on servers. Playing against humans is much better than playing against CPU's. Also, if you play against someone better than you, learn from them.

Keep up the good work, and don't give in to the dark side of the smash world (i.e. Brawl).

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Isn't this game (smash 64) supposed to be deeper than brawl?

y es

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

my kb is gooooooooooooooooooooood tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[Dual Kirby]

heh nado kill at the end was funny wasn't expecting that XP anyway very good considering youve only been playing for a week keep practicing tho as pretty much everyone here has said its just a cpu and their stupid so just keep practicing and you'll get better

 

[thanortinzak]

LOL from my brawl experience, I do indeed know CPUs are stupid. However, where can I fight a human (the smash 64 emulator doesn't have a wifi battle option)?

 

[Dual Kirby]

im not sure...thats a question you need to as in the smash 64 forums

 

[killa k]

my kb is gooooooooooooooooooooood tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

lol i remember playin u wen u were on keys thinkin "yea his skill is gonna be cut in half I HAVE A CHANCE!" and then i got super ***** lol.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

maybe 5-6 people who still post here from time to time are not noobs at this game. Compared to em myself and the rest of you could be considered pretty noob. Sucks, but it's true.

Being -really- good at this game is hard to achieve.

 

[Superstar]

LOL from my brawl experience, I do indeed know CPUs are stupid. However, where can I fight a human (the smash 64 emulator doesn't have a wifi battle option)?

WiFi?

WiFi is just wireless, but, yes, you can play online [netplay].

Most common is Project64k for playing online. I can help you set it up if you get my AIM from the Smash compendium, but I can't play because I'm having internet problems, been having for the last 2 weeks. Your emulator though doesn't have Netplay.

I agree with Dylan. Is a lot of work. But don't worry about it, just play for the fun of it.

A tip though, usmash more, it's a great combo starter.

 

[Daedatheus]

A tip though, usmash more, it's a great combo starter.

I would say with Falcon though, only usmash when you KNOW you're going to get the hit, or as a reaction to someone about to hit you from above, because it can be punished very easily if someone spaces a jump just perfectly over your head/usmash, or doublejumps then fastfalls an attack right next to you while you usmash.

Fthrow is a lot less punishable and starts combos too. It's all situational of course, but just keep in mind how laggy usmash is versus Falcon's other options!

 

[Superstar]

Funny thing is, with usmash I get the hit a lot. More often than fthrow.

 

[d2o]

Funny thing is, with usmash I get the hit a lot. More often than fthrow.

when playing defwhore a fthrow will be easy to achieve imo
CF is just too fast!

 

[Croija]

Needs more Falcon Pawnch. But other than that, you play well, especially for 1 weeks practice.

 

[asianaussie]

Well...yeah, you're a newb. Not a noob. If it really was only one week, it's not bad. However, you have to start doing more advanced stuff, in particular short hops, Z-cancels and general speed + fluency. Also, I docked marks because you didn't taunt when DK jumped into the tornado. It's better if you work with a controller (if you can). I really wish I could, but I'm better on keyboard than controller now, which is rather annoying.

 

[Nybb]

Looks like you'll have to start playing people to get better now instead of CPUs... otherwise you'll start to develop some bad habits that don't really work on humans, like edgeguarding with Falcon's jabs and randomly f-smashing from a neutral position. Play online since you already have the emulator, or if you can find a group in RL then that's even better. But yeah, pretty good for such a short amount of time.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

"you're a newb. Not a noob"

Oh come on, a newb and a noob are the same thing. Synonyms if you will...

The word you're looking for is noob versus scrub

Uh oh I said scrub! Sakuraiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

newb means new bad player

noob means just a bad player that's been there a while?

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

bah, but in smash the skill barrier between you and me makes me a noob. Id rather just be called a casual smash player lol.

Now a scrub, to me that's one of those whiney not fun to play games with kind of people. A noob or a newb is ok with me I just dont want them to bi*ch yknow?

Btw sc is awesome we should play sc with fireblaster or something I got it working again **** yes

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

bah, but in smash the skill barrier between you and me makes me a noob. Id rather just be called a casual smash player lol.

Now a scrub, to me that's one of those whiney not fun to play games with kind of people. A noob or a newb is ok with me I just dont want them to bi*ch yknow?

Btw sc is awesome we should play sc with fireblaster or something I got it working again **** yes

mine is borked, works on my old comp though haha

 

[SSB64-Jel]

Sc hmm if you mean Starcraft count me in lol.

As for this guy being a newb he has much more to learn, but then again I have lots to learn as will

 

[Fireblaster]

Everyone is always learning. Don't ever get the idea that you should ever stop, because if you do then you won't be able to get any better.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

thinking you're better than u are is bad too.

1. stops you from improving as fast
2. frustrates you // the game isnt fun

sc is awesome

 

[Superstar]

I want sc

I still find Falcon's usmash easier to use.

 

[Deleted member]

I'll play any of you guys in SC

if we play melee or top vs bottom I am not going to play fastest


if you need another copy of sc you can go grab it at iccup.com, then we can either hamachi it or you can put your cd key in or you can just play on their lan latency server

 

[T1g3rbombz]

i pwn anyone at sc BGH 1v1 mh or no mh! MM anyone!? u cant stop me

 

[KevinM]

Did someone say starcraft?