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Alternate Subspace Emissary Mode: Villains?

Radamanthus

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this has probably been suggested before, but i like the idea. after beating the subspace emissary, you could play through it again while controlling the likes of bowser, wario, etc. i love games where you can be evil (don't judge me) like fable and shadow the hedgehog, so i would pour lots of time into this option.
 

skullkidd

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I think this would be a good idea.
You choose the story at the beginning, Good or Evil, and it's virtually the same thing from the different angle.
The problem with that is that there are much more 'Heroes' than 'Villians'
 

Griffard

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that would indeed be cool. it would have to have a different story line though, since in the actual game the protagonist is supposed to prevail obviously... but yeah like some sonic games that woud be coolio
 

KJC2004

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it will be interesting

like what did happen after wario got zelda. Then you'll eventually fall into a series of crazy deja vus
 

Terywj [태리]

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Yes that would be a good idea...but think of the characters so far...

Heroes:
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Yoshi
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Link
Zelda
Kirby
Pikachu
Poke Trainer
Ice Climbers
Fox
Pit
Sonic (most likely)
Lucas (most likely)
Ike (most likely)


Villains:
Bowser
Ganondorf
Meta Knight
King Dedede (most likely)
Wario

Undecided:
Snake

Looking at it right now...there are NO villains from the Metroid (possibly Ridley) and the Pokemon franchises...
 

TheMastermind

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This is a great idea, I didnt even think of it.
I think your apsonlutly right. It already looks like Meta knight, Wario, and Bowser are enemys
I bet thats a different advanture mode.

K-rool, Ridley, Gannon will also be enemys that you can play with.
Dude I think you figured it out. Definatly a good topic.
 

TheMastermind

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OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!
I just figured out what happens after Wario takes Zelda!!!!!
After that, they take Zelda back to Meta knights ship, and they do experiments on her turning her into Shiek!!!!!! Then you can play as Shiek as a bad guy!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: sorry double post
 

maxieman

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shadow the hedgehog was such a bad idea I only bought it because I'm a huge sonic fan and thought if anything I should buy it out of principle

ON TOPIC: that would be alright, help to express teh dark side a bit more than OMG WARIO IS STEALIN ****
 

Pieman0920

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We all know that the real villain of the pokemon world is the PT....Capturing small animals and confining them to his balls....so cruel.

Anyways, the idea of a all villain SE is not a good one. It just isn't. Most playable villains will probably be playable in SE anyways. =/
 

GreenKirby

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Pics of your time machine NOW, Tonic. :O

Anyway, I would like to play as the villains in the Subspace. But who will they fight?
 

Masterem243

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It's a good idea, but you'd have to control the other bosses as well, like Petey Phirana, so the idea kind of has holes in it.
 

vydran212

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Ehh. I kind of don't like the idea. I'm more in favor of the badguys teaming up with the goodguys to take down the one common enemy. Could you imagine: Link and Ganondorf, Claus and Lucas, Samus and Ridley, all fighting side by side.

One word: EPIC!
 

Rex+

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Playing as bosses like Petey (and possibly Rayquaza) would be annoying and difficult. Not only that, but the heroes greatly outweigh the villains.
I like the villain/hero side-by-side idea though. But who would they fight?
 

notftomearth7

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Yes that would be a good idea...but think of the characters so far...


Undecided:
Snake
Meta-Knight

I think Meta-Knight would be neutral as would Snake. In the Kirby games Meta-Knight has struck me as neutral and Snake probably wouldn't have a clue what was going on, considering that it would be a new world to him and everything.
 

Nnnk

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Wario isn't so much evil as he is just greedy. And I believe that Meta will be a good guy. Has anyone noticed that Meta hasn't been shown on the Halberd or anything? I think that the Primid took it from him.

Plust Meta isn't evil, he just goes with whichever party he believes is right.

And Snake is a good guy, you'd know if you'd play one of his games.
 

Rex+

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I think Meta-Knight would be neutral as would Snake. In the Kirby games Meta-Knight has struck me as neutral and Snake probably wouldn't have a clue what was going on, considering that it would be a new world to him and everything.


Do you think most characters have a clue about what is going on?
Do you think Diddy Kong knew what it was that snatched him away, and who came to his rescue?

This would be a new world to nearly everyone in the SSE.
 

ComradeCanada

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Snake is a hero normally, but here he'll probably be a villain, given that his mission is to kill/fight Mario.
Although I suspect that he won't be able to do it because he'll gain a respect for the man, and end up being a hero in the end.
 

Rex+

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Snake is a hero normally, but here he'll probably be a villain, given that his mission is to kill/fight Mario.
Although I suspect that he won't be able to do it because he'll gain a respect for the man, and end up being a hero in the end.

Who hasn't built up respect for Mario?
I believe that since he's so badass, he'll try and kill him anyway.
Or at least beat him senseless. Whatever Sakurai thinks is more suitable.

Second thought: What if Snake is neutral in all of this? He would be very similar to Scorpion in the Mortal Kombat series. Scorpion held no affiliation between the Earth realm and Shao Kahn's empire, and he was able to influence both sides greatly.
Snake could either suck up to Mario in the end and combat the SSE for the greater good, or he'll learn of the SSE'S plan to kill Mario and join them in hopes of obtaining his goal.
 

RL89

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OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!
I just figured out what happens after Wario takes Zelda!!!!!
After that, they take Zelda back to Meta knights ship, and they do experiments on her turning her into Shiek!!!!!! Then you can play as Shiek as a bad guy!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!
Plot twist :laugh:!
 

ComradeCanada

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Who hasn't built up respect for Mario?
I believe that since he's so badass, he'll try and kill him anyway.
Or at least beat him senseless. Whatever Sakurai thinks is more suitable.

Second thought: What if Snake is neutral in all of this? He would be very similar to Scorpion in the Mortal Kombat series. Scorpion held no affiliation between the Earth realm and Shao Kahn's empire, and he was able to influence both sides greatly.
Snake could either suck up to Mario in the end and combat the SSE for the greater good, or he'll learn of the SSE'S plan to kill Mario and join them in hopes of obtaining his goal.
I think Snake will get respect for Mario because that's the reason Kojima couldn't hit him while playing against Miyamoto a while back.

I can't see Snake sucking up to any body, but that's just me.

I wonder if maybe we'll see something with colonel like we did in the end of MGS 2.....
 

RedKnight

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I posted this idea on several thread weeks ago, which mean....I LOVE THE IDEA, like an alternate story line for Good and Bad, and it ends with a combined soryline
 
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