Air grabs? good or bad

[ksadkiller]

how would you guys feel if they put the ability to grab in the air, like bowser's forwardb except everyone can do it with Z, you know. i personally think it would be kind of cool, as long as they have it run smoothly im for it

 

[Mistle]

I would actually really like to see this in the game. I can image great aerial combos with air grabs. They'd have to make 'em pretty smooth though, because if they were kinder rough and tricky to do, it could ruin the whole concept.

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

Good, execpt for this.

Imagine you in the air over a pit. Now imagine your opponent grabbing you and down throwing you.

Yeah.

 

[Bassoonist]

Sounds like an awesome idea.

I always wondered why you couldn't do it in the past games... but maybe I'm just weird.

 

[Mistle]

Good, execpt for this.

Imagine you in the air over a pit. Now imagine your opponent grabbing you and down throwing you.

Yeah.

With the new Footstool jump, seems like that is already a problem :/

 

[Pokebrawl]

I say nay, but wouldn't mind if it happens.

 

[Dynamism]

Problem or sweet move!

 

[Bassoonist]

With the new Footstool jump, seems like that is already a problem :/

Not only that but we can't forget DK's grab!

 

[dizzy]

Good, execpt for this.

Imagine you in the air over a pit. Now imagine your opponent grabbing you and down throwing you.

Yeah.

Meteor cancel.

Yeah.

 

[Hawk_Man]

Meteor Throw? Hmmm...it's got a nice ring to it...

 

[iMichael]

wow air grabs?! think of the possibilities....we'd come up with some of the craziest combos

 

[ShoDan]

samus airgrab would be sweet :D

 

[Roadie-Toe Joe]

Sounds like a great idea.

I imagine it would be useful for recovering, for instance grabbing someone just before they try to meteor you, turning the tables as you land safely on the platform. =)

 

[tiger81]

I think air grabs could be implemented smoothly. I would like to see it.

 

[Mckillyou]

I have wanted these since smash 64

 

[Mistle]

Meteor Throw? Hmmm...it's got a nice ring to it...

Meteor Throw? I like the sound of that =D

 

[Leobenmc]

I have wanted these since smash 64

QFT.

I can't see how it could be a bad thing - it'd just add to the possibilities (and "Meteor Throw" does sound awesome!)

 

[Revven]

But, wouldn't that somewhat ruin Link's and Samus' way of getting back onto the platform with their hookshot/chain? How would it work if say your opponent jumped off on purpose to stop you from grabbing onto the ledge by getting in the way of the hookshot/chain causing you to grab the opponent and commit suicide (hey, it's a possibility! )

It's a nice idea though. However, I think an air grab should allow diagonal throwing as well. So, you can throw your opponent off to the corner if need be. You can't do that on the ground, so it'd make the air grabs more unique.

 

[Eaode]

what is the point of air grabs?? They'd be incredibly redundatn with atacks, except for the fact that they introduce a lot of problems like universal suicides.

The only point of grabbing is to counter someone who is shielding, so they aren't invulnerable. There are no shields in the air (and that idea is also pretty dumb) so air grabbing is pretty unnecessary

 

[mada234]

As with most things, if done in a certain manner, air grabs could potentially rock my world =)

 

[Wreked]

I could see this happening. What would be cool if you grab them in the air then press down on the D Pad and you and the person you're holding plummets down to the ground where you hit his/her head. Think Kirby's up grab.

 

[inside]

samus airgrab would be sweet :D

That would be totally awesome, and link too.

 

[Jackal478]

What about mario's back throw.

The swing.

Would they have to alter some characters moves?

otherwise, pretty awesome idea

 

[Renwaldo Van Veenmol]

I think that'd be loads of fun!

I'd love to be able to do that in the game.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

Aerial grab techniques would definitely shake up the competitive smash scene. I personally think it would be a bad idea because aerial attacks are essentially a trade off. In exchange for fast high-knockback moves, the character sacrifices the ability to shield and grab. If characters had all options available to them both on the air and in the ground, it would be much harder to win. >_<

 

[ksadkiller]

samus airgrab would be sweet :D

yea i can imagine it, like an air grab from a distance. but i think air grabs would over power aerial attacks. like people wouldnt even bother with aerials if they can just grab em and keep doing it and stuff

 

[Wolfblade]

I've bin hoping for this, especially with Link's/ Samus' grabs.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Bad, although it souds nice but but bad

 

[Pyroloserkid]

Lmao, after all these years of still playing Melee as Falco, I still try to grab people in the air. =[

 

[BigRick]

Aerial grab techniques would definitely shake up the competitive smash scene. I personally think it would be a bad idea because aerial attacks are essentially a trade off. In exchange for fast high-knockback moves, the character sacrifices the ability to shield and grab. If characters had all options available to them both on the air and in the ground, it would be much harder to win. >_<

Yup, attacking from the ground would be useless...

Melee is already a game that focuses heavily on aerial approches.

 

[cubican62]

IMO this would be even better if there were different throws for aerial and ground grabs.

 

[Frogla]

I vote no we already have people just about doing infinite combos.

Grab-Throw Down- Up Tilt- Air Grab - Air Throw Down- Dair- Up Tilt-Air Grab
The cycle continues

 

[Adi]

Yeah I could see potentially dangerous situations but than again, everything has the potential to be completely exploited to the point of being completely imbalanced so eh, if they do it well by all means that'd be cool.

 

[Hallowed Storm]

Personally, I think they would be a good move to add to the game.
Even if you couldn't throw in the air, I think it would be cool to hold onto the opponent and spiral downward, or tackle them in midair and drive them into the ground.

 

[Teben]

I think they should be left to specific characters, like it was done with falcon and bowser and ganon. Provides some uniqueness.

 

[Xanderous]

I'm all for aerial grabs, but it seems like they would be pretty difficult to implement and exceptionally hard to balance.

If they can do that, however, I'm totally for it.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

I was thinking about this the other night. Implementing this would be pretty pluasable.

Here's my idea:

Fox example, when you Air Dodge, there is a 30 frame window (approximately), and within those frames, there are invincibility frames by which you can't be damaged. Now, what if the amount of frames for the Air Grab was the same as the Air Dodge? It would possibly work, and it can be balanced.

When you grab an opponent, you remain in the air for a breif period just like the Air Dodge, but the amount of time you have to throw has the same amount of time as the Air Dodge. So if you don't hit a direction within the 30 frame window, your opponent will break free.

The throw velocity will vary based on damage(Melee Terms, assuming that Brawls throws increase in strength). So don't expect to get an easy kill.

I'm thinking whether or not that the Air Grab should count as a 3rd jump.

Any ideas?

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

@ Frogla

Name me one character besides Fox that can do an infinite?

Not to mention using the DrillShine infinite combo is crappy and can only work on a few characters. DrillShines only work on noobs who play with Link.

And that combo can't be looped considering the percentage increase.

 

[BigRick]

I think they should be left to specific characters, like it was done with falcon and bowser and ganon. Provides some uniqueness.

YEHS!!!

I totally agree with him.

In most fighters, only a handful of chars can airgrab.

 

[Frogla]

@ Frogla

Name me one character besides Fox that can do an infinite?

Not to mention using the DrillShine infinite combo is crappy and can only work on a few characters. DrillShines only work on noobs who play with Link.

And that combo can't be looped considering the percentage increase.

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