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Advice

sharksquail

Smash Ace
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Jan 10, 2009
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So today is the first time I played against who I assume is a top level player (Not Froggles) online and I got my *** handed to me. I knew that I was not that great to begin with, but I think now that I was overestimating myself to begin with. I want to get better at this game, and I'm pretty confident that I have the hand speed to play at a high level. Do you guys think it is more beneficial to play against players who are way above your level, or try to play people who are closer to your level. Also is there anything in specific that you recommend that helped you step your game up.

Thanks.
PS. hit me up on AIM if you want to play.
 

asianaussie

Smash Hero
Joined
Mar 14, 2008
Messages
9,337
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Sayonara Memories
Maybe try playing about in practice mode and against CPUs...it got my basic skill level up. Prediction and mindgames have to be learned against human players though. The better they are, the faster you'll get better.
 

DMoogle

A$
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Jan 28, 2008
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2,366
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Northern VA, USA
play both.
+1

Carefully analyze your opponents game and look for spots where they do something differently than you would have done, how you reacted, and what the end result was. Then, think about the underlying concept that made him choose to do the thing he did rather than something else, and try to implement it in your game. Also, think about the way you reacted, how effective it was, and try to compare it with other ways you could've reacted.

Always know your options. The more you know and the better you understand, the more advanced your game will become.
 

Blue Yoshi

Smash Master
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Jake is definitely dropping Yoshi
The best people to play against if you want to get better is against someone that is slightly above your level. This way, you can see things that they do that you don't, while still being able to do stuff yourself. Playing against someone much better than you will just result in you getting destroyed, sometimes unable to do anything, meaning you don't really learn anything. Playing against someone much worse than you can easily make you form bad habits, as they will easily fall for obvious things.

Playing people close to your skill level is ideal, but slightly better than you is best. At least in my opinion :)
 

Dan$inyi

Smash Apprentice
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Mar 3, 2010
Messages
76
Location
PA
I agree with blue yoshi.
Playing with players with a little more skill than you is best.
+it gets really old really fast playing people that are way too good for you
 

ciaza

Smash Prodigy
Premium
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Aug 12, 2009
Messages
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Australia
I agree with Blue Yoshi, and playing people you know are about your level too can also help, as odds are they've been playing people above them and have been learning things that you can now learn from your opponent.

Playing people on your level and developing healthy rivalries can give you motivation to learn as well
 

Daedatheus

Smash Lord
Joined
Jun 10, 2008
Messages
1,137
Location
Toronto & Kingston, Ontario
Practice combos in training mode and play other players online that are at your level and better than you.

This is the ultimate combination and path towards becoming better. The practice of combos will increase your finger speed, familiarize you with the hitboxes of each character's moves and the subtleties of their movements, and give you an understanding of how to link moves together (SSB64 is THE combo game after all). Playing equal and better players will teach you new ways to use characters, how to move about the stage faster, what kind of mindgames and habits can be used and exploited, and encourage creativity. Playing only opponents FAR better than you is not always useful as being constantly overwhelmed by their superiority in-game does not always give you a chance to learn and try new things.

Even playing inferior opponents is great for when you want to learn to implement a new aspect of your character into your game. As an example, I once spent an entire game using only shine-cancels with Fox against an inferior opponent so I could learn to use them quickly and well.

Combos and real opponents (online or on console) are the best way. You need both to improve the fastest. People pick up combos as they go but watching vids on youtube and copying combos from matches/combo videos and then learning them means you'll have that advantage that much sooner than learning by constant trial and error over hundreds of matches.

Also, for the record: NotFrogles would make a large number of experienced players here today have their ***** handed to them. Don't feel too bad about it.
 

SheerMadness

Smash Master
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Aug 18, 2005
Messages
4,781
Not Frogles aint no thang.

Nah j/k Daed is right hes 1 of the top online players so don't worry about getting owned. Like other people have suggested, play against other people who are bit better than you. After a while just make sure to go back and play him again to see your improvement.
 

hamburglar

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Dec 10, 2007
Messages
435
Location
Binghamton, Ny
lol i remember playing zenyore's fox online when i first started playing competitively and felt the same way.

just keep practicing and don't get discouraged
 

P D

Smash Ace
Joined
Oct 27, 2007
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lol i remember playing zenyore's fox online when i first started playing competitively and felt the same way.

just keep practicing and don't get discouraged
where did zenyore go? or did he change names for the billion'th time?
 
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