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A taxonomy of nonsense

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Recently, I was having a conversation with a good friend of mine, and wound up making a statement along the lines of "Hey, when I hear someone talk nonsense, I'm intellectually obligated to notify them of that fact". To which my friend replied: "Oh, and I suppose you're the arbitrator of what is and isn't nonsense?"

This was a comeback I didn't have a ready reply for. It is abundantly clear to me that what is and isn't nonsense is well understood, yet not always made explicit.

This post is a means of defining, enumerating, and classifying nonsense, and various derivatives thereof. It is important in the topic of debate for the same reason that it's important to understand the classical logical fallacies. Being able to correctly identify when someone else is speaking nonsense is a good way to win a debate.

The corollary is that understanding the taxonomy of nonsense can help you identify when you yourself commit such an offense, and correct your stances or arguments appropriately. So let's get on with it.


A quick definition:
Wikipedia said:
Nonsense is a verbal communication or written text that is spoken or written in a human language or other symbolic system but lacks any coherent meaning
The important aspect of the definition is the absence of meaning. That will be a recurring theme throughout this post.


1) Lexical Nonsense

The most basic building block of written language is the character set. A really easy way of producing nonsense is to violate the accepted character set. The result is something which might appear to be a foreign language, but really isn't. For example...

[example pending]

The analog in spoken language is of course just babble. Such as this (humorous) clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZXcRqFmFa8

2) Syntactic Nonsense

Merely using characters from an accepted character set is of course not sufficient to avoid nonsense, however. One can assemble those characters into words which do not have accepted meaning. The result is nonsense, for example...

Hwerh moeln ermd oind h sdg?!
Obviously this sentence has no meaning.

3) Grammatical Nonsense

One can also use valid accepted words (which individually have meaning) and combine them in a sentence such that the result is nonsense. This is accomplished by stringing together entirely unrelated words, which violate the grammatical rules of the language. For example...

Pots blue cat cheese except solstice.
No meaning.
But kind of funny, nonetheless.

4) Semantic Nonsense

This is where things get interesting. It's possible to arrange a sentence with words such that it loses meaning due to context. This type of nonsense can be difficult to spot, since it often requires knowledge of the subject matter to identify it.

This is different than grammatical nonsense in that semantic nonsense loses its meaning only after inspection. The sentence(s) in question may very well appear to have meaning until one thinks about it long enough.

Why do the angles of a triangle sum to 180 degrees?
The above question might initially seem to make sense. But the problem is with the word "why". It is a fact that the angles of a triangle sum to 180 degrees. I could provide a rigorous proof of this fact. But that does not answer the "question" of why.

Then, after you think about it for a moment... you come to the realization that you don't even know what the question is asking. It is devoid of meaning. It is nonsense.

5) Incoherence

Incoherence is what happens when an idea very nearly forms and is communicated, but falls short. This is very often due to a lack of ability on the part of the communicator, such as:
pun intended

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII

Incoherent nonsense is certainly an apt description of the above. Maybe somewhere in there was an idea, but it failed to be communicated.

Incoherence, unfortunately, can be used maliciously by scam artists. They will use incoherence to appear an expert in a subject they are not, or invent a new subject altogether. Some have come to call this "Woo Woo", a term I've never liked. But here's an excellent example:

http://www.foundationforglobalhumanity.org/twelfth-transdimensional-level

Here's a little snippet from that page:

LOCATION
There are black holes in the space located within your atomic structure. These black holes sit on the edge of the universe, between the unmanifested and the manifested reality or between the implicate and the explicate order. These black holes represent your chakra connection to the twelfth dimension that is at one and the same time, your connection to the edge of this universe and other universes. The black hole is a hub connection.
Hub connection?!?! lawl, that's just awesome.

Though that paragraph above may syntactically to be coherent, it is not. None of that rambling had the slightest bit of meaning. It is just a series of words mashed together which might appear to have meaning, if you don't know what black holes, atoms, dimensions, or connections are.

6) Inconsistence

Otherwise known as contradiction. If a statement or idea is inherently contradictory, it ceases to have meaning. And as you might have guessed, making contradictory claims are bread and butter to those in politics. George Orwell labeled this "Doublethink", or the act of simultaneously holding as true two mutually exclusive ideas. For example...

60 percent of the time, it works every time
...well which is it? The statement is nonsense!

7) Vacuous Statements

This one is tricky. You see, something can be both "true" and nonsense. A vacuous statement is one which is true, but has no teeth. Such as...

or
This statement is true.
True, yes. But also meaningless. It is self contained. No other statements are contingent upon this one. The statement is of inconsequence. There is no conceivable reason to even make such a statement except to point out that it is vacuous.

The fun part comes in when you manage to hide the fact that a statement is vacuous. Many people are able to hide weak arguments by doing this. A simple technique is to throw in a true vacuous statement which appears to support your cause. Your opposition will be unable to prove that the statement is false, and also fail to recognize that the statement is meaningless nonsense. For example...

[example pending]
 

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This is an interesting post you've got here. I think the majority of us have a very vague definition of nonsense in our minds. The difference is that has been written down and studied. Hopefully, this will afford us some coherence when discussing whether something is nonsense or otherwise.

This has also taught me that editing and proofreading is very important, otherwise nonsense may creep into my posts.

So, overall, a very good post.

I'll be interested to see how the examples come along. I imagine some of them are very hard to come up with.
 

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It was a good post but I'm confused as to what we're supposed to be debating about.
 

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Reminds me of how often people will employ the word "quantum" to explain nonsensical ideologies that they know to be logically inconsistent, like for homeopathy or crystal energy stuff.
 
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