A Look at the Japanese Packaging

[JUr]

It's happening! The info is flowing!

Thanks for the translation @XKan

Well, I'll buy a physical copy but it's nice that the game could be put in the default SD card

 

[mario123007]

With such a big memory storage needed for this game, by just downloading from eshop would take hours, so I will probably buy the game retail.
If anyone asking if these are fake or not, well.....who cares! The game is coming out less than a month any way, we will know soon.

 

[25%Cotton]

OK, I'M KINDA CONFUSED.

i went to GEO today to make my eshop version preorder, but the lady at the store told me they only had physical preorders and i'd have to come back on september 13th if i wanted to pick up the digital download card.

WTF.
GEO, COME ON! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OF THE BIG GAMING CHAINS IN JAPAN, AREN'T YOU?? how can you be behind ;^;

probably gonna check another GEO or maybe even another gaming store to see if they have the eshop download cards. they obviously exist since this thread exists.

apparently the dude who posted the pic to begin with had gotten ahold of the digital download card early, so it's indeed not released yet. i've only bought the card once before (for pokemon x) so i'm not sure how long before a game's release the cards start selling. it's mildly annoying because shops are starting to put up signs and screens showing gameplay and preorder announcements but they don't have the digital cards yet (only physical preorders). :x

less than a month left... come on nintendo, get dem cards out~~

 

[spiderfreak1011]

I'm kind of questioning the Legitimacy of this packaging. I mean, there's no mention of Shigesato Itoi or Ape Inc., which could mean Ness and Lucas were both cut, and Mother just got completely ditched. I know alot of people will say "But Creatures Inc. was Ape Inc. before" but hear me out. In both Melee and Brawl's packaging, Ape Inc. and Creature Inc. were both cited, to show that one worked on Earthbound/Mother while the other works on Pokemon. And again, Shigesato Itoi was cited in order to give credit to Mother 3 as it was also represented in Brawl. So tell me this, why would they choose to stop citing them as seperate now? After they've done it multiple times in the past? If you don't believe me, here's the proof:

Ape Inc. and Shigesato Itoi(for Brawl) are both listed there along side Creatures Inc. and Hal Laboratory. :\ I'm not neccessarily calling this fake, but i'm questioning the legitimacy of it after seeing this.

 

[Smash_Handle69]

I'm kind of questioning the Legitimacy of this packaging. I mean, there's no mention of Shigesato Itoi or Ape Inc., which could mean Ness and Lucas were both cut, and Mother just got completely ditched. I know alot of people will say "But Creatures Inc. was Ape Inc. before" but hear me out. In both Melee and Brawl's packaging, Ape Inc. and Creature Inc. were both cited, to show that one worked on Earthbound/Mother while the other works on Pokemon. And again, Shigesato Itoi was cited in order to give credit to Mother 3 as it was also represented in Brawl. So tell me this, why would they choose to stop citing them as seperate now? After they've done it multiple times in the past? If you don't believe me, here's the proof:

Ape Inc. and Shigesato Itoi(for Brawl) are both listed there along side Creatures Inc. and Hal Laboratory. :\ I'm not neccessarily calling this fake, but i'm questioning the legitimacy of it after seeing this.

I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of not having any Mother/Earthbound characters/whatever on the actual boxart. Without anything like that, they wouldn't need to place the copyright directly on the box. Look at both the Melee and Brawl packages, each one has either Ness or Lucas on them. Smash 3DS packaging doesn't have either. And if you think about it, Mr. Saturn has already been confirmed as an item, so I doubt the copyrights on the packaging actually say anything about the presence or absence of unconfirmed characters.

This has been brought up before, though.

 

[spiderfreak1011]

I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of not having any Mother/Earthbound characters/whatever on the actual boxart. Without anything like that, they wouldn't need to place the copyright directly on the box. Look at both the Melee and Brawl packages, each one has either Ness or Lucas on them. Smash 3DS packaging doesn't have either. And if you think about it, Mr. Saturn has already been confirmed as an item, so I doubt the copyrights on the packaging actually say anything about the presence or absence of unconfirmed characters.

This has been brought up before, though.

I would agree with that, except Mega Man, Sega and Namco Bandai have been cited and yet MM, Pac Man or Sonic haven't been on either the Wii U or 3DS covers. :\ Maybe it's a different for third party characters, but still, i don't neccessarily think it depends on who's on the cover to get cited. Also, i don't know if you noticed, but only Lucas is on the back side of the cover, NEss is nowhere to be seen and they still cited Ape anyway, and before you say anything, Ape did not work on Mother 3(Lucas's game). Here's the boxart itself if you want proof:

So again, i question the legitimacy of this Smash 4 boxart.

 

[Smash_Handle69]

I would agree with that, except Mega Man, Sega and Namco Bandai have been cited and yet MM, Pac Man or Sonic haven't been on either the Wii U or 3DS covers. :\ Maybe it's a different for third party characters, but still, i don't necessarily think it depends on who's on the cover to get cited.

Actually, they are all on the packaging, in the top right corner:

Spoiler

Oh, and the fact that Namco Bandai was also one of the developers to actually work on the game, so it's kinda under their copyright by default.

Also, i don't know if you noticed, but only Lucas is on the back side of the cover, Ness is nowhere to be seen and they still cited Ape anyway, and before you say anything, Ape did not work on Mother 3(Lucas's game). Here's the boxart itself if you want proof:

So again, i question the legitimacy of this Smash 4 boxart.

This point is interesting, though... I can't counter that.

This packaging does still seem legit to me, and I gotta say that I don't think the boxart has any barrings on who won't be present this time around, but I don't have any solid evidence to this effect, so I may be completely wrong.

 

[xxEliteAlicexx]

Off topic, but how much content did pokemon x and y actually have?

 

[obeymalleo]

Off topic, but how much content did pokemon x and y actually have?

Hi, and I believe that X and Y had around 700 Pokemon in terms of content really. Other than that, there was the music, and etc.

 

[spiderfreak1011]

Actually, they are all on the packaging, in the top right corner:

Spoiler

Oh, and the fact that Namco Bandai was also one of the developers to actually work on the game, so it's kinda under their copyright by default.


This point is interesting, though... I can't counter that.

This packaging does still seem legit to me, and I gotta say that I don't think the boxart has any barrings on who won't be present this time around, but I don't have any solid evidence to this effect, so I may be completely wrong.

Oh whoops, nevermind about the Third party characters, sorry, didnt see them. XD And i forgot Namco worked on this one.

But yeah, i don't think it neccessarily has to be about the characters on the cover. I admit though, this packaging does look legit. But i just can't accept that Sakurai would dump both Lucas and Ness and have no Mother representative, especially given he has Mr. Saturn and Franklin Badges in the game.

If that's the case, then he doesn't know what he's getting himself into. Mother has had a rocky past with Nintendo, and the fans always outcry about unfair stuff like this because of what's happened in the past. The last thing NOA wants is more Mother outcries from the fans, and the fans will rampage if their franchise gets completely removed from Smash. Plus that would mean the Original 12 rule would be broken too.

Maybe it's just a mistake, or maybe they finally chose to have Creatures represent both Ape and its current title(i doubt they'd start now though,w hen they havent before), but i kind of doubt they'd forget to cite those ones if Ness and Lucas are in the game.

 

[Hong]

@ spiderfreak1011
Dosei-san/Mr. Saturn is a licensed product and they couldn't use him or his image without having to deal with licensing, so I wouldn't worry about it. We know he's in the game, which means Mother is in the game.

 

[A Lucky Person]

I wouldn't worry about Ness and Lucas. If Kojima had to audacity to ADD another clone (Lucina) then Lucas won't be cut, seeing as the only "clone-y" thing about him is that he has similar B-moves to Ness (even then they have different properties). And Ness will be in the game. It's as certain as Captain Falcon's eventual confirmation.

Why they've waited this long to announce either child is beyond me though.

 

[Ganonthegreat]

No. It wouldn't be complete yet!

I don't mean it would have gone gold at that point, but the content in the game would have been pretty set.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I would agree with that, except Mega Man, Sega and Namco Bandai have been cited and yet MM, Pac Man or Sonic haven't been on either the Wii U or 3DS covers. :\ Maybe it's a different for third party characters, but still, i don't neccessarily think it depends on who's on the cover to get cited. Also, i don't know if you noticed, but only Lucas is on the back side of the cover, NEss is nowhere to be seen and they still cited Ape anyway, and before you say anything, Ape did not work on Mother 3(Lucas's game). Here's the boxart itself if you want proof:

So again, i question the legitimacy of this Smash 4 boxart.

APE probably needs to be credited as soon as the Mother IP itself is brought in, it's not limited to certain characters from the franchise itself. It's likely just based off of what's on the starting roster.

 

[Reila]

Off topic, but how much content did pokemon x and y actually have?

More than 720 Pokémon 3D models, each with various different animations for Pokémon Amie, mega evolutions, 212 music tracks, different models for the player character (because of trainer customization), etc. There is a lot of data in the game, but as far as features are concerned, X and Y were actually a huge step down compared to Black 2 and White 2.

 

[AppleCracker]

in my case, this is THE game i was saving blocks for.

i have an 8GB sd card and my only other game on it is pokemon... but that means combined with smash, half of my sd card is used up. wondering if maybe i should pick up a 32GB just to be safe. but then again what else would i possibly put on my SD...? i guess sapphire and potential monster hunter. ok, i'll pick up a bigger card even though i'll probably be fine.

I mean for like ESHop only games that take up a lot of space. I just don't want smash taking up all that space.

 

[RafalRib]

No, then it will be on the card itself.

Thanks!

 

[SS-bros14]

More than 720 Pokémon 3D models, each with various different animations for Pokémon Amie, mega evolutions, 212 music tracks, different models for the player character (because of trainer customization), etc. There is a lot of data in the game, but as far as features are concerned, X and Y were actually a huge step down compared to Black 2 and White 2.

O_o
Wow, all that stuff in X&Y and smash still takes up more blocks. Smash must defiantly be bigger than X&Y.

 

[Xenado]

Thanks!

how about you buy the physical game...

 

[Xenado]

O_o
Wow, smash must defiantly be bigger than X&Y.

X and Y i believe is a little over 1 GB

 

[SS-bros14]

X and Y i believe is a little over 1 GB

From what I heard I think X&Y takes up about 1.7 GB.

 

[linszoid]

The lack of a copyright on the box doesn't mean a character is decomfirmed. After all the Melee box doesn't have intelligent systems despite the fact the game has two Fire Emblem characters.

 

[SS-bros14]

The the lack of a copyright on the box doesn't mean a character is decomfirmed. After all the Melee box doesn't have intelligent systems despite the fact the game has two Fire Emblem characters.

^This.

 

[Johnknight1]

The lack of a copyright on the box doesn't mean a character is decomfirmed. After all the Melee box doesn't have intelligent systems despite the fact the game has two Fire Emblem characters.

64 doesn't have APE either, which would deconfirm Ness, and notice Smash 4 doesn't either.

I mean seriously, if they had the companies listed on the back, it would be a gigantic spoiler.

 

[xxEliteAlicexx]

O_o
Wow, all that stuff in X&Y and smash still takes up more blocks. Smash must defiantly be bigger than X&Y.

Lol Ikr, that's why I asked!

 

[RafalRib]

how about you buy the physical game...

I Always said i was going to buy a Physical copy but i just needed to make sure that amount was for the Digital copy!

 

[Icedragonadam]

I think the copyright on the back is only for what appears on the boxart and not the actual game. Ness appears in Melee's boxart and so does Lucas on Brawl's. And Itoi was credited on both games.

 

[Skyfox2000]

Snake 100% deconfirmed now: Konami is NOT on the back of the game cover.

So are you saying the same thing about Shulk and the Mother Characters?

 

[Icedragonadam]

Snake is really the only character that could be considered disconfirmed, because he doesn't appear along side with the other 3rd party characters in that picture.

 

[Skyfox2000]

Snake is really the only character that could be considered disconfirmed, because he doesn't appear along side with the other 3rd party characters in that picture.

Well Konami not be credited does get me worried, But for some reason SHEGASTO ITOI and Ape Inc. isn't credited so this could not be final!

 

[Icedragonadam]

Well Konami not be credited does get me worried, But for some reason SHEGASTO ITOI and Ape Inc. isn't credited so this could not be final!

I'm not talking about the copyright. I'm talking about the group picture with Mega Man, Pac-Man, and Sonic. Snake isn't there, and he appeared on the back of Brawl's box and was advertised.

 

[Kirbybrawl]

Nintendo would benefit more by putting there own character with snakes moves than having snake in the game. All it's going to do is promote snake and what's nintendo going to gain with that? Get some of snakes fans to buy smash again? That's not many people that are willing to just buy a 3ds or wii u if they don't have one already to support the character compared to them bringing back a series and making it instantly popular due to the fighter they chose and have a potential future with a new 3ds game. For example advance wars.

 

[Johnknight1]

Nintendo would benefit more by putting there own character with snakes moves than having snake in the game. All it's going to do is promote snake and what's nintendo going to gain with that? Get some of snakes fans to buy smash again? That's not many people that are willing to just buy a 3ds or wii u if they don't have one already to support the character compared to them bringing back a series and making it instantly popular due to the fighter they chose and have a potential future with a new 3ds game. For example advance wars.

More people bought Brawl because of Snake than any other smash game since the original for any other character (Sonic aside).

That's a fact.

The interest in "Smash 3" went from a popular thing among a few hundred people to a few million because of Snake's confirmation.

Also, no Nintendo-owned character makes sense with Snake's moves. That's like giving Kirby's moveset to Mario.

It would literally be like a skin and nothing more. It would literally be the first "rep" in Smash, which is an awful thing to think about.

 

[Reila]

Nintendo would benefit more by putting there own character with snakes moves than having snake in the game. All it's going to do is promote snake and what's nintendo going to gain with that? Get some of snakes fans to buy smash again? That's not many people that are willing to just buy a 3ds or wii u if they don't have one already to support the character compared to them bringing back a series and making it instantly popular due to the fighter they chose and have a potential future with a new 3ds game. For example advance wars.

Nintendo would totally benefit by putting Snake in the box art of the game, that is for sure. He is one of the most well known video game characters.

 

[Starcutter]

Nintendo would totally benefit by putting Snake in the box art of the game, that is for sure. He is one of the most well known video game characters.

I don't think that's the reason why they would benifit by putting him on the box.

sure, he's well known, but nintendo has a lot of well known characters on the box of their own! the reason to put snake on the box is to appeal to a wider audience.

 

[Reila]

I don't think that's the reason why they would benifit by putting him on the box.

sure, he's well known, but nintendo has a lot of well known characters on the box of their own! the reason to put snake on the box is to appeal to a wider audience.

So... Nintendo would totally benefit by putting Snake in the box art of the game. That is what I said.

 

[Starcutter]

So... Nintendo would totally benefit by putting Snake in the box art of the game. That is what I said.

yeah, no argument there, I just felt your reasoning was.... flawed. Not bad, but flawed.

 

[Reila]

yeah, no argument there, I just felt your reasoning was.... flawed. Not bad, but flawed.

Your own post supports what I said, but somehow my reasoning is flawed. Oook, master of the reasoning!

 

[LIQUID12A]

Nintendo would totally benefit by putting Snake in the box art of the game, that is for sure. He is one of the most well known video game characters.

Still hoping Snake isn't disconfirmed just because of an image of boxart. Still have 3 weeks to go for Japan.

 

[Starcutter]

Your own post supports what I said, but somehow my reasoning is flawed. Oook, master of the reasoning!

Wait.... *rereads post*

Oh, the "he is a well known video game character" part wasn't part of your initial point. I'm at fault then.