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A Guide to Choosing your Main!

Razed

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Hey!
I've seen many threads inquiring which character would be a good main for person 'x' (usually themselves), so I decided to make a little guide for it. Hope it helps! BIG A*S UPDATE**l! ALL CHARACTERS HAVE BEEN ADDED! THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH MARTHSWORD

Table of Contents

1. Introduction
2. Characters
3. Links



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1. Introduction -

Having trouble choosing your main? If you're not sure which character suites you best, then this guide will hopefully help you choose. It won't tell you everything, because only you know who you're good with and who you are completely terrible with, but it may lead you in the right direction. I didn't include the lower tiers because if you chose one of them, it's probably just based on how much you like the character. Enjoy!

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2. Character

Here will give you a brief description of the character's all around ability.

**NOTE** Range does not include projectiles
**NOTE** Grabgame does not include chaingrabs

Fox

Run Speed: Very Fast
General Attack Speed: Fast
Combo Potential: Good
Meteor Smash: Yes
Best Moves: Shine, Nair, Upsmash, Uair
Killing Moves: Shine, Usmash, Uair, sometimes Fsmash
Tier: Top
Recovery: High Tier
Range: Average
Grabgame: Good
Chainthrow: On fast fallers, yes.
Pro Player: Chillin, Tink, Ken, PC Chris
My Comments: Awesome all around character. Has an awesome infinite shine ability! Great edgehogging
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Falco

Run Speed: Fast
General Attack Speed: Fast
Combo Potential: Very High
Meteor Smash: Yes
Best Moves: Dair, Shine, Lasers, Nair
Killing Moves: Dair, Fsmash, Dtilt, Bair
Tier: Top
Recovery: Bottom Tier
Range: Average
Grabgame: Average
Chainthrow: No
Pro Player: PC Chris, Bombsoldier, Forward, Fonz, Shiz
My Comments: LOVE FALCO! Awesome combos and an awesome spike. SHL FTW! Good Edgehog. Good Bair
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Shiek

Run Speed: Fast
General Attack Speed: Very Fast
Combo Potential: High
Meteor Smash: No
Best Moves: Fair, Dthrow, Ftilt, Dsmash, Needles
Killing Moves: Fair, Uair, sometimes Dsmash
Tier: High Tier
Recovery: Middle Tier
Range: Good
Grabgame: Great
Chainthrow: Yes
Pro Player: DSF, Omar, CJ
My Comments: Jeebus... No one likes going up against a Shiek. She's fast as hell and can chaingrab and is really easy to master! Good Edgehog. Shiek is mainly aerial,
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Peach

Run Speed: Slow
General Attack Speed: Fast
Combo Potential: Good
Meteor Smash: Yes
Best Moves: Dsmash, Fair, Nair, Bair
Killing Moves: Smash, Fair, Nair,
Tier: High Tier
Recovery: Upper Tier
Range: Average+
Grabgame: Pretty good
Chainthrow: Don't think so
Pro Player: Vidjo, Fonz, Cort
My Comments: Peach is GHEY! Very good though >.>. Turnips are good, so is hovering and dsmash o.0
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Marth

Run Speed: Fast
General Attack Speed: Fast
Combo Potential: High
Meteor Smash: Yes
Best Moves: Fsmash, Fair, Nair, Dair, Utilt
Killing Moves: Fsmash. Sometimes Nair and Utilt
Tier: High Tier
Recovery: Low Tier
Range: Awesome
Grabgame: Alright
Chainthrow: Yes
Pro Player: Ken... durrr, Husband, FastLikeTree
My Comments: Just a good character. Try and hit with the tip of the sword, it killz o.o. Use lots of aerials! No projectile moves though :X
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Captain Falcon

Run Speed: Very Fast
General Attack Speed: Fast Ariels, slow B and smashes
Combo Potential: High
Meteor Smash: Yes
Best Moves: Fair, Uair, Bair
Killing Moves: Fair!!, Bair, sometimes Dair, Fsmash
Tier: Middle Tier
Recovery: Bottom Tier
Range: Average
Grabgame: Average
Chainthrow: Maybe on fast fallers for a bit... he can tech punish fast fallers with another grab though
Pro Player: Isai (derr), G-Regulate, Darkrain,
My Comments: Awesome character with sweet aerials! Hit them with a knee (fair) at a fairly high percent and they're done! All physical, good edgehog.
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Ice Climbers

Run Speed: Average-slow (that why they have an awesome wavedash!)
General Attack Speed: Fast
Combo Potential: High (Chain Grabs FTW!)
Meteor Smash Yes
Best Moves: Dsmash, Dthrow, Bair
Killing Moves: Dsmash, Fsmash, Chaingrab into dsmash, Usmash, sometimes Bair, sometimes Nair, and Bair
Tier: Middle Tier
Recovery: High Tier (with both icys)
Range: Good
Grabgame: Amazing
Chainthrow: Yes
Pro Player: ChuDat Hands down =/
My Comments: Awesome Wavedash, Awesome Dsmash. Synching is evil and hard to do but awesome! They can chaingrab well too =)
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Samus

Run Speed: Medium
General Attack Speed: Fast
Combo Potential: Low
Meteor Smash: Yes
Best Moves: Missiles, Dsmash, Bombs, Dtilt,, Nair, Bair
Killing Moves: Fsmash, Nair, Bair, Missels, sometimes Dair
Tier: Middle tier
Recovery: Top Tier
Range: Average
Grabgame: Not good (Okay with extended grapple)
Chainthrow: No
Pro Player: Wes, HuGs, Joker
My Comments: This girl has lotsa tricks! Extended Grapple beam, Super wavedash, Bombs+ Grapple recovery, awesome easy wavedash, double missiles... YAY! Fun character. Good Edgehog. CRAPPY Usmash and Fair
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Doctor Mario

Run Speed: Medium-slow
General Attack Speed: Medium-Fast
Combo Potential: High
Meteor Smash: No =( (not including the up+b thingamajigger)
Best Moves: Bair, Nair, Pills, Uair, Fair, Dthrow, Dsmash
Killing Moves: Fair, Fsmash, sometimes bair when it's spammed
Tier: Middle Tier
Recovery: Bottom Tier
Range: Awful
Grabgame: Good
Chainthrow: Yes
Pro Player: Bob$
My Comments: Awesome chains+combos with Dthrow. Good Edgehoging. All aerial cept throws+ dsmash and cape. He sacrifices his range for power.
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Jiggly Puff

Run Speed: Slow
General Attack Speed: Fast (Well, all the moves you should be using are fast)
Combo Potential: High
Meteor Smash: No
Best Moves: RESTZORZ!! (down+b), Bair, Fair, Uair, Nair <<King of air>>
Killing Moves: Rest, Bair, Fair if spammed
Tier: Middle Tier
Recovery: TOP NOTCH!!
Range: Poor
Grabgame: Good
Chainthrow: No
Pro Player: The King *.*
My Comments: Awesome fun! Uthrow+ Rest on fast falling chars(fox). Great edgehog and aerials! All aerial cept throws.
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Mario

Run Speed: Medium
General Attack Speed: Medium
Combo Potential: High+
Meteor Smash: Yes
Best Moves: Bair, Fsmash, Uair, Dsmash
Killing Moves: Like... none o_o! Only Fsmash if it's sweetspotted
Tier: Middle Tier
Recovery: Bottom tier (he could make the low tier I think)
Range: Average
Grabgame: Pretty good
Chainthrow: Yes (Anyone know the details?)
Pro Player: Eggz, Green Mario
My Comments: Basically a version of Doc, with a little better recovery, and no consistent KO move. His performance depends completely on the players skill (as does anyone [Cept shiek =P], but tech skill is very important for mario)
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Gannondwarf

Run Speed: Medium-slow
General Attack Speed: SLOW (Aeriels -> Medium
Combo Potential: Low
Meteor Smash: Yes
Best Moves: Fair, Bair, Uair
Killing Moves: " "
Tier: Middle Tier
Recovery: Middle Tier
Range: Average
Grabgame: Average
Chainthrow: No
Pro Player: Tipman
My Comments: Slow, but packs a punch! you can get roughly 100+ damage with as little as 5-6 attacks! All aerial + Wall of Pain. If you can't shuffle or just don't like to, don't pick Gannon.
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Link

Run Speed: Medium-slow
General Attack Speed: Average (fast aerials)
Combo Potential: High
Meteor Smash No
Best Moves: Fair, Nair, Dair (ko move), Dtilt, Spin attack (Ko move),
Bombs/Boomerang for spamming
Killing Moves: Dair, Spin
Tier: Top of the Low
Recovery: High Tier (Only if you can do Bomb Recovery)
Range: Very good
Grabgame: Fair
Chainthrow: No
Pro Player: Aniki, The Germ, Azen
My Comments: Link can either be a Tank or a Spammer. He needs a very skilled player to use him though. Not for beginners. He has a mean projectile game, and has sick combos if he gets going. He is easy to combo on though.
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THE NEXT PART IS THE LOW TIERS. YES LINK IS A LOW TIER, BUT HE WAS DONE BY ME, AND THIS NEW SECTION WAS DONE COMPLETELY BY MARTHSWORD, WHO IS AWESOME! SOME CHARACTERS WERE DONE BY OTHERS AS MENTIONED.


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DONKEY KONG

DK--- By: Marthsword
Run Speed: Average – Slow
Wavedash:approximately 6th worst
General Attack Speed: Average – Slow
Combo Potential: Amazing but repetitive
Meteor Smash: Dair, Side B
Spike: Dair (upper body,) Fair
Best Moves[:/B] {descending order) Uair, Neutral B, Cargo Throw, Bair
Killing Moves: (descending order) Neutral B, B throw, Uair
Tier: Middle of bottom tier
Recovery: Average
Range: Incredible
Grabgame: Amazing
Chainthrow: U throw on fastfallers, Cargo throw occasionally
Pro Players: Captain Jack, Canada Mike, Bum, AOB
Comments: DK relies heavily on the same combos and moves. His grabgame and Cargo > Uair game are huge. He combos fast fallers incredibly well, especially Fox. Whenever you have a chance, charge his neutral B.
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Ness --By EarthBound360 (The places with *s beside them are things I put in)

Run Speed: Below Average (*You can use WD instead*)
General Attack Speed: *Average-Fast
Combo Potential: Good
Meteor Smash: Yes
Best Moves: Fair, Dair, Uair, Nair, Bair, PKT
Killing Moves: Fsmash, Bair, YYG sometimes
Tier: Low (Shouldn't be lol) *Yes he should =P*
Recovery: Middle tier *Cept his PKT can be countered by a few chars, leaving him screwed
Range: Very good
Grabgame: Strong
Chainthrow: Don't think so (??)
Pro Players: Simna, Mofo, UmbreonMow
Comments: Ness has a wide range of advanced tactics and can actually be faster than Sheik. Many people recognize him as "underrated".
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Yoshi--- By: Marthsword

Run speed: Surprisingly Fast
Wavedash: 5th Best
General Attack Speed: Pretty Fast
Combo potential: Very good
Attack range: A little above average
Meteor Smash: dair
Spike: Fair, Dair
Best moves: uair, eggs, bair, d tilt, d smash
Killing Moves: D smash, uair, f smash, nair, Down B
Jumping: Insanely good
Tier: Top of the bottom tier (should be higher)
Recovery: Middle
Range: Good
Grabgame: Not good
Chainthrow: Very hard to pull off, don’t recommend using it
Pro player: Gabe, Svampven, Bringer of Death
Comments: Yoshi has great combos with his egg > uair game. He doubles in weight during his double jump, and his double jump is the fastest ledgegrab in the game, because he goes down before up. He has a disadvantage that his shield cannot be JC’ led. He has an amazing CC game.
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Zelda--- By: UmbreonMow


Run speed: VERY slow
Wavedash: Tied with Peach for worst
General Attack Speed: Pretty slow
Combo potential: Not very much
Attack range: Above average
Meteor Smash: D air, D tilt
Spike: None
Best moves: Bair, Fair, D smash, F smash **Wtf@ Dsmash?!?**
Killing Moves: Fair, Bair, F smash
Jumping: Worst
Tier: Top of the bottom tier
Recovery: Very good but difficult
Range: Pretty good
Grabgame: slightly below average
Chainthrow: upthrow on fastfallers to about 40%

Pro player: UmbreonMow, Ryoko Yaksa, Kawn
Comments: Zelda is slow, but her attacks come out surprisingly fast and have very little lag, but her attacks stay out a long time, so they're still slow. She also recovers from stun quicky.
I know the pro players aren't very well thought out. I don't know anything about Zelda.

YOUNG LINK

Young Link--- By: Marthsword
Run speed: Surprisingly Fast
Wavedash: Below Average
General Attack Speed: Pretty Fast
Combo potential: Good
Attack range: About average
Meteor Smash: d tilt
Spike: Dair
Best moves: Bombs, boomerang, nair, d throw, arrows
Killing Moves: D smash, F smash, Dair, Uair
Jumping: Average
Tier: Bottom of the low tier
Recovery: Almost high tier
Grabgame: Comboes well out of it
Chainthrow: Very hard to pull off, don’t recommend using it
Pro player: Caveman, Chu Dat
Comments: Young Link is faster than his clone in every way. He is a better spammer as well. He can combo out of and into grabs almost as well as Link. Always having a bomb with you is a good idea.

Bowser--- By: Marthsword
Run speed: Exremely Slow
Wavedash: Average, but takes 9 frames till you can airdoge, (that’s a lot)
General Attack Speed: Slow
Combo potential: Not too bad
Attack range: Amazing
Meteor Smash: None
Spike: None
Best moves: Up B, Fair, Forward B, Nair, F tilt, Ledge Attack <100
Killing Moves: Everything!
Jumping: Below Average
Tier: Bottom
Recovery: Middle
Grabgame: Not very good
Chainthrow: U throw on Fox, Koopa Claw forward on FF’s
Pro player: Gimpyfish62, Arash, Captain Jack, Magnum
Comments: A Bowser mistake is to play him defensively. You can kill them in one good combo. Play offensively. Bowser has an AMAZING Up B. It has invincibility frames, can be substituted for his dodge, comes out in 3 frames, high priority, and high damage, and a ledgegrab.

I know it seems weird to include his ledge attack, but it has an amazing hitbox, and can be used for edeguarding!

Luigi

Luigi--- By: Marthsword
Run speed: Slow, but doesn’t matter
Wavedash: 1st. Luigi doesn’t need to run. With WDing he is the fastest in the game
General Attack Speed: Average
Combo potential: Good
Attack range: A little above average
Meteor Smash: dair, d tilt
Best moves: Fair, Nair, Dair, D smash, U tilt
Killing Moves: Dair, Fair, Nair
Jumping: Very good
Tier: Bottom of the Low tier
Recovery: Bottom of the Low tier
Grabgame: Average
Chainthrow: U throw fastfallers, D throw semi-floaties
Pro player: Ka-Master, Azen, Thunders, Drephen
Comments: It can be hard to get used to Luigi because of his floatiness. Luigi has great tech chasing and speed with his Wavedash. He can run circles around opponents. What makes him in his tier position is his poor matchups with high tier characters. He would have a good recovery, but his up B sweetspot ruins it, the foe can edgehog.

KIRBY

Kirby--- By: Marthsword
Run speed: Below Average
Wavedash: Around 6th worst
General Attack Speed: Average – Below average
Combo potential: Average – below average
Attack range: Below average
Meteor Smash: dair, up B
Best moves: Bair, Uair, Fair, Dair
Killing Moves: Uair, F smash, Bair
Jumping: Best
Tier: Bottom Tier
Recovery: Great, but too predictable
Grabgame: Below average, but kirbycides bring it up
Chainthrow: None unless you have your foe at ridiculously high %s.
Pro player: Omnigamer, T!mmy, Kirbstir
Comments: Kirby focuses around his aerial games a lot, that is where most of his combos come from. He has a ton of jumps, giving him good aerial maneuverability. He can suicide with swallow, b throw, or f throw, this is called ‘kirbycide.’ Kirby has a strat called “Fence of Pain” with his bair.

ROY

Roy/B]--- By: Marthsword
Run speed: Average
Wavedash: 6th Best
General Attack Speed: At or below average
Combo potential: Below average
Attack range: Amazing
Meteor Smash: Third hit of over B aimed upward, Dair, U smash
Best moves: Fair, U tilt, Uair, F smash, Nair
Killing Moves: F smash
Jumping: Very bad
Tier: Middle of low tier
Recovery: Bottom Tier
Grabgame: Average
Chainthrow: None
Pro player: NEO, Masashi
Comments: Roy focuses on his ground game wheras marth focuses on his aerial game. Newbies tend to pick Roy because he has fire. Try them both and see who you are most comfortable with.


Pikachu

Pikachu/B]--- By: Marthsword
Run speed: Very Fast
Wavedash: Below Average
General Attack Speed: Fast
Combo potential: Good
Meteor Smash: None
Best moves: Nair, Uair, Bair, Thunderjolt, D smash, U smash
Killing Moves: U smash, F smash, Nair, Biar
Jumping: Average
Tier: Middle of low tier
Recovery: High Tier
Grabgame: Average
Chainthrow: U throw on FF’s
Pro player: AK, Azen
Comments: Pikachu has incredible smashes. Pikachu has great recovery as well, though not as good as Pichu’s. It almost makes up for his light weight. Pikachu’s Uair is a semi spike, and can spike an opponent off the edge by sending them behind. If you time if right, you can send them up, send them behind you, or send them in front of you.[/QUOTE]
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Mewtwo --- By: Eaode

Run speed: Slow (wavedash instead= fast)
General Attack Speed: Average (smashes are slow, tilts + some aerials are very fast)
Combo potential: Good
Attack range: Above Average
Meteor Smash:
Best moves: Dthrow, Uthroe, Bair, Nar, Dtilt, Utilt
Killing Moves: Fair
Tier: Bottom Tier
Recovery: Top tier
Range: Good
Grabgame: Strong
Chainthrow: ??
Pro player: Taj
Comments: Mewtwo ***** fastfallers (especially on FD). Unfortunately, Mewtwo is light and a large target
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Pichu --- By: Marthsword

Run speed: Very fast
Wavedash: 6th worst
General Attack Speed: Fast – Very fast
Combo Potential: Pretty good especially against fast fallers
Best Moves: Thunderjolt, Nair, Bair, Up B, Up smash, F smash
Killing Moves: (in descending order) U smash, F smash, Nair, Bair, Dair, B throw, D smash
Jumping: Above average
Tier: Bottom tier
Recovery: high tier; better than Pikachu’s
Range: Awful
Grabgame: Pretty good
Chainthrow: U throw fast fallers, D throw floaties
Pro Players: T0mmy, Chu Dat
Comments: People are turned off because he hurts himself, however, most his best moves don’t. Pichu has especially good combos on fast fallers (uair) and good edgeguarding (TJ, f tilt, f smash.) Many people aren’t used to fighting a good pichu, so won’t know what to do, or how to DI your attacks like F smash. Also, Don’t forget to taunt@ Pichu can taunt cancel by holding shield during the taunt animation. This allows you to SHFFL, WD etc, out of a taunt.[/QUOTE]
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**Note** The "Pro Player" isn't necessarily the best, just a pro
**Note** All Characters that do not have player name beside their name are done by me


4. Links

2006-2007 Tier List - http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=81928

Recovery Tier List - http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=78593

Hope you like it!

Updated 01/20/07 **BIRTHDAY IN TWO DAYS YAY!!**
 

Vall3y

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lol when i first saw the title i was like 'this cant be serious'...
it can actually make a good joke:
guide to choosing your main
toss a dice, then act accordingly:
1. you main fox
2. you main falco
3. you main sheik
4. you main marth
5 or 6. toss again
 

Chitose

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this has good potential. I think you should add other things such as edge guarding ability.
 

Razed

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this has good potential. I think you should add other things such as edge guarding ability.
That's a good idea, I'll do that. But I think I'm only going to do middle tier to top tier, because if you chose a lower tier character it's usually just your taste.
 

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Its about time somebody thought of this, still you need to make it more interesting so people will actuall search for it, and not pass it over, like adding ganondorf to the list.
 

Reese

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I think you should try and go into specific mechanics of each char. For example, are they aerial or ground based, or the grab game of each char. I know that will be a lot of work, but it would be usefull.

Its a good list though. Props to you for making it. :)
 

Pure of Heart

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It's a good list, however, it would be good if you added all of the characters, I personally would like to see more people who play Mid-low tier characters, I am getting tired of seeing so many Marth's and Shiek's.. and Fox's... if you know what I mean. But overall, good list! ^_^
 

Razed

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It's a good list, however, it would be good if you added all of the characters, I personally would like to see more people who play Mid-low tier characters, I am getting tired of seeing so many Marth's and Shiek's.. and Fox's... if you know what I mean. But overall, good list! ^_^
Heh, yeah that's true. But the thing is- there aren't many good things about lower tier characters that I could put in other than their fun value. =/.

Suggestions on this?

@Reese: I kinda did that with the "Comments", but I'll try and elaborate on it

Thanks all!
 

Pure of Heart

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Heh, yeah that's true. But the thing is- there aren't many good things about lower tier characters that I could put in other than their fun value. =/.
Well, I know alot about lower tiers, lol, if you wanted me to help you with it. :laugh: But meh, you don't have to put up the lower tiers if you don't want to, it was merely a suggestion. :)
 

Razed

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Well, I know alot about lower tiers, lol, if you wanted me to help you with it. :laugh: But meh, you don't have to put up the lower tiers if you don't want to, it was merely a suggestion. :)
But you're right in the sense that they should be there. But not many people who are deciding who to main will want to main a low tier char. Although, If you would like to make something like what I have here for the low tiers (just the list) I'd be happy to include it and give you the credit.

Thanks!
 

Pure of Heart

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Earthbound360, you can do Ness since I havn't a clue about him. XD But I know most of the other characters, lol.

Alright, I will get to working on the lists, Razed, I will PM you with what I have when i'm finished with them, lol I will try to make em good. XD
 

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I think you should include their attack range as a factor

And note that doc trades his range for power >_>


And yes, please do low tier characters. Solely doing high tiers reinforces the neverending circle of infinite tier whores


Here's Mewtwo:
Run speed: slow (wavedash instead)
General attack speed: average (smashes are slow, tilts + some aerials are very fast)
Combo potential: good
Attack range: above average
Spike: yes
Best moves: Uthrow, Dtilt, Fair, Shadow ball?
Tier: bottom
Recovery: top tier
Pro player: Taj
Comments: Mewtwo ***** fastfallers (especially on FD). Unfortunately, Mewtwo is light and a large target
 

Razed

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I think you should include their attack range as a factor

And note that doc trades his range for power >_>


And yes, please do low tier characters. Solely doing high tiers reinforces the neverending circle of infinite tier whores


Here's Mewtwo:
Run speed: slow (wavedash instead)
General attack speed: average (smashes are slow, tilts + some aerials are very fast)
Combo potential: good
Attack range: above average
Spike: yes
Best moves: Uthrow, Dtilt, Fair, Shadow ball?
Tier: bottom
Recovery: top tier
Pro player: Taj
Comments: Mewtwo ***** fastfallers (especially on FD). Unfortunately, Mewtwo is light and a large target
Thanks bro! As mentioned in a previous post, a friend is gonna PM a full list of the low tier chars, not to worry =P
*goes away to edit M2 into thread*
 

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Maybe this is useless or even redundant info, but maybe add the character's wavedash distance or how easy it is to do? Like I know Luigi is the top, and I guess Link and Bowser are at the bottom?
 

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Doo dee deet doot dee doo! Ness!

Run Speed: Below Average
General Attack Speed: Fast
Combo Potential: Good
Spike: Yes
Best Moves: Fair, dair, uair, nair, bair, PKT
Tier: Low (Shouldn't be lol)
Recovery: Middle tier
Pro Players: Simna, Mofo, UmbreonMow
Comments: Ness has a wide range of advanced tactics and can actually be faster than Sheik. Many people recognize him as "underrated".
 

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Ness is so underrated for sure!! Until i played him, i used to think he was such a crappy character. Most people have never played earthbound so he isn't as popular as mario or link.
Power to the little guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Razed

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I think you can work on the pro players a bit. There's a some better ones you didn't mention.
I think you can work on your reading a bit. I said at the bottom "**NOTE** The pro players are not necessarily the best players, just pro players.
 

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ppl need a fast character that can combo,is strong and has the name fox...i mean and has ranged attacks and one tjat they are good at...i forgot what else i was saying
 

Razed

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I think you should add in grab and edge catagories, and also whether they can walljump.
Good idea, I will soon.

low-bottom tiers should be added.

NOTE: i reached my 1/5k post
Yeah but, I'm afraid that might discourage people from picking them, as there will not be too many good things about them. But, I will if there's a popular demand for them. You can be like Eaode and Earthbound360 and make one for me though =)

Also, congrats =P I'm almost there
 

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A couple things
Using words like thingamajigg and (Whats the proper name?) kinda kill everything, and you spelled ganondorf wrong, and why does doc have high combo ability and not mario, its the same, but ya.. make it a little more professional if you want it to be respected.
 

Razed

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A couple things
Using words like thingamajigg and (Whats the proper name?) kinda kill everything, and you spelled ganondorf wrong, and why does doc have high combo ability and not mario, its the same, but ya.. make it a little more professional if you want it to be respected.
I don't really care if it looks professional or if I'm respected on a videogame site. As long as people can understand it perfectly and it helps them I don't really care.

As for the mario thing, I'll change that in a sec.

I think fox suits me best
Glad it helped ya =)
 

Wrath`

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I just read this.
falco is in the low tier for recovery,but i seam to get to at least 150 to 200% damege before i die.You need a weght class and a jump hieght class to make the list better.
 

Eggz

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Notes: Not every character has "high" combo potential. Samus certainly doesn't deserve to be on the same combo level as fox when she doesn't have a single chain of combos, and jigglypuff doesnt deserve to be the same level as falco when all she has are limited combos on space animals, and edgeguarding combos.

Also, Mario's best moves include his dair and jab, and not his cape. Capes garbs.

Meteor attacks do not = spikes
Mario combos better than Doc.
Mario's fair is not crappy, its very good.
Brown Mario has quit
Green Mario and I are the only currently active well known pro Marios

I dont know why Captain Jack is listed for Falcon but not Shiek

I really have no idea at all why Ka Master is listed for Marth. Like seriously. I rofl'd irl when I saw that. He plays Luigi and secondarys every character in the game. XD

I have more to complain about, but it doesnt matter.
 

Razed

Smash Ace
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I just read this.
falco is in the low tier for recovery,but i seam to get to at least 150 to 200% damege before i die.You need a weght class and a jump hieght class to make the list better.
Notes: Not every character has "high" combo potential. Samus certainly doesn't deserve to be on the same combo level as fox when she doesn't have a single chain of combos, and jigglypuff doesnt deserve to be the same level as falco when all she has are limited combos on space animals, and edgeguarding combos.

Also, Mario's best moves include his dair and jab, and not his cape. Capes garbs.

Meteor attacks do not = spikes
Mario combos better than Doc.
Mario's fair is not crappy, its very good.
Brown Mario has quit
Green Mario and I are the only currently active well known pro Marios

I dont know why Captain Jack is listed for Falcon but not Shiek

I really have no idea at all why Ka Master is listed for Marth. Like seriously. I rofl'd irl when I saw that. He plays Luigi and secondarys every character in the game. XD

I have more to complain about, but it doesnt matter.
Wow that post was the most helpful one I've had so far! Thanks alot man, I'll edit a bunch. I didn't know BM quit =(. I'll edit you in =P.

I made a typo with the captain jack thing. I put KM as a Marth pro cause I saw him 2-stock G-reg with marth, and IMO anyone who can do that is a pro with marth >.>

This was helpful, so feel free to complain more =)
 
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