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Mind Trick
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Hard to think of many ugly remarks for an impressive yoshi, but Ill give it a try ^_^
First thing I noticed was your Yoshi seems to be grounded, it doesnt like to go airborne
Maybe thats just a matter of different styles, but it looked like most of the time he went airborne something good happened.
Vs the Falcon:
Not much to say other than you were better than him. It was kinda hard to watch with the black thingy on the bottom, so it was unclear what exactly happened with your first stock. It looked like you were going for a ledge dash instead of just normal returning to the stage but I could be wrong.
Overall I would have expected more uairs and maybe some more neutral b. I noticed also in all matches that whenever you did a hipdrop to get back on the stage (except to hanging on the ledge) quickly things went wrong, so maybe try to avoid using it this way.
Vs the Peach:
I dont know much to say about this, Im having problems with peaches myself, and this seems to be a very good one. I saw some occasions where you could have used a neutral b (works like a charm jumped away and djc'd back). Also, I heard somewhere eggs work pretty well against peaches.
Vs the Ness:
****, thats a fast Ness! Dont have much to say again, maybe some more aerial approaches instead of staying grounded almost all the time That was an awesome mindgame on the last stock though.
First thing I noticed was your Yoshi seems to be grounded, it doesnt like to go airborne
Maybe thats just a matter of different styles, but it looked like most of the time he went airborne something good happened.Vs the Falcon:
Not much to say other than you were better than him. It was kinda hard to watch with the black thingy on the bottom, so it was unclear what exactly happened with your first stock. It looked like you were going for a ledge dash instead of just normal returning to the stage but I could be wrong.
Overall I would have expected more uairs and maybe some more neutral b. I noticed also in all matches that whenever you did a hipdrop to get back on the stage (except to hanging on the ledge) quickly things went wrong, so maybe try to avoid using it this way.
Vs the Peach:
I dont know much to say about this, Im having problems with peaches myself, and this seems to be a very good one. I saw some occasions where you could have used a neutral b (works like a charm jumped away and djc'd back). Also, I heard somewhere eggs work pretty well against peaches.
Vs the Ness:
****, thats a fast Ness! Dont have much to say again, maybe some more aerial approaches instead of staying grounded almost all the time
That was an awesome mindgame on the last stock though.technomancer
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Yoshi is top tier for countering scrubby Falcons :D Very good stuff, but watch out when you roll vs. Falcon, because where I'm from that's a free grab.
I hate Peach. Your air game is bogus against her because she can CC everything in to Dsmash, and Dsmash owns you pretty good. For the most part I try to mess up her timing with short thrown eggs (in front of her) and fit in a wave-Usmash, and juggle juggle juggle to rack those %s. Egg lay is pretty good too, can you can crouch into a u-smash if she breaks out with a n-air.
I like that Ness
I'm a Ness fan myself. Unfortunately, Ness isn't much of a match for a good Yoshi; Yoshi has iron horse never die style, is resistant to juggles, and can DjC through stuff and RDjC around alot of stuff, plus CC-Downsmash. Well played on both sides though, I really liked the end
Far as your technical goes, I think you should work on edge-wavelands to add to your edge mixup game; I think this would help alot vs. Peach as well.
I hate Peach. Your air game is bogus against her because she can CC everything in to Dsmash, and Dsmash owns you pretty good. For the most part I try to mess up her timing with short thrown eggs (in front of her) and fit in a wave-Usmash, and juggle juggle juggle to rack those %s. Egg lay is pretty good too, can you can crouch into a u-smash if she breaks out with a n-air.
I like that Ness
I'm a Ness fan myself. Unfortunately, Ness isn't much of a match for a good Yoshi; Yoshi has iron horse never die style, is resistant to juggles, and can DjC through stuff and RDjC around alot of stuff, plus CC-Downsmash. Well played on both sides though, I really liked the end Far as your technical goes, I think you should work on edge-wavelands to add to your edge mixup game; I think this would help alot vs. Peach as well.
technomancer
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Only try the upsmash stuff when Peach is coming out of the eggs, as a mindgame. CCing vs. Peach is auto-death.
It's not that your rolls are obvious, it's just Falcon's make a living off of tech-chasing space animals and hassling shielders. Somone rolls, and we're there. Sometime's it's just better to drop your shield and try to jab, but mostly just don't shield haha, or use your lightshield.
Oh yeah, Lightshield everything Peach throws at you! The pressure goes away and she has to adjust very quickly, and you get half a second to reset.
It's not that your rolls are obvious, it's just Falcon's make a living off of tech-chasing space animals and hassling shielders. Somone rolls, and we're there. Sometime's it's just better to drop your shield and try to jab, but mostly just don't shield haha, or use your lightshield.
Oh yeah, Lightshield everything Peach throws at you! The pressure goes away and she has to adjust very quickly, and you get half a second to reset.
First video -
wtf @ ~ 00:38. Why did you fall all that way and nearly die? 0_o
00:52 - Shiri style egg lay to taunt. First, if he went between the platforms or even landed on the left one he could've easily d-aired you. Second, you could've done a normal grab and then combo'd into something. I know you had fun with this move, and it is a friendly, but take your chances when you can get them! ^_^
Straight after the taunt - Spamming b-air is good, and because your opponent fell for it then it worked. However, all it would take would be 1 CC and he's kneed you in the face.
2:06 - Yeah, the down B. After you realised he missed, you should've done a b-air and fast falled instead of down Bing. I'm sure you know that now though ^_^
2:46 - No DJC up-air combos? The only reason the f-air hit was because your opponent didn't tech or try to jump out or DI. Still, it was effective, so if you're facing that or a similar Falcon again go for gold!
3:18 - You were too far away to hit with that up-B. At best you should have aerialed out of shield or something. ^_^
1st Video general impressions - You like your grounded jab game a lot 0_o. Some opponents can handle it and some can't, and you got lucky in this one I think. Obviously you don't DJC often, unless that was a little technical error in the middle where you got kneed in the face after a DJC on the spot. Otherwise, your Yoshi is definitely good and as all good Yoshis need to be, its fun to watch.
*Starts downloading the next match, wishing I could stream properly with my crappy internets*
2nd video
00:13 - I would've d-tilted out of shield here. The attempted DJC wasn't going to work if he jabbed or f-tilted or dash attack etc so d-tilt was definitely the better option. I know, you were probably scared of the d-smash, but yeah.
1:04 - omfg you actually got the first stock off. I didn't expect that. Good job!
1:11 - lol.
1:18 - F-tilt!!! Tapping won't combo! >_<
1:33 - Ouch, unlucky. Did you DI upwards then? If so, then ignore this comment.
1:40 - Sidestep!! Shield the first few hits, and sidestep into d-smash. Sexiness.
1:45 - The f-tilt wasn't that good an idea here I think. I would've used d-smash, cos you'd get Peach off the edge, and Yoshi is very good at jibbing Peach's recovery. Eggs take out float, instant edgehog stops her superpriority etc. Keep that in your mindset, a Peach off the edge is worth 2 that have been f-tilted.
2:00 - Wth? Oh well, at least you both died!
2:06 - I would've used eggs instead of jumping into a b-air. Approaching the upper platform is dangerous when you can't reach from the ground with your first jump, because its harder to fake out the d-smash.
2:11 - I would've f-tilted, only because it would be more likely to break her CC and prevent any CC'd dtilt or dsmashes.
General impressions of the 2nd match - Lightshield more, like technomancer said. You were getting shield pressured a lot, and a lightshield into edge eggs is sexy. Otherwise, I really can't help you, as it is definitely hard to approach a good Peach, and that's where you had most of your problems. *Next one downloading*
3rd video -
That Ness is kinda weird. The only reason that strategy worked, as far as I can tell, is because Yoshi has no real priority forward facing moves in mid-air that are quick. But really, I can't see it being as annoying as standard SH f-airs, except that these DJC'd ones are difficult to punish unless he's spamming it more than he's paying attention to your adaptations.
Still, when you f-tilted his f-air approach it seemed to stop him in his tracks. That wouldn't work with standard SH'd ones >_>.
*Found Nessby more impressive*
Anyway, rewatching.
Ok... I don't think I'd change much of how you played. He didn't get close enough for you to take the PK thunder and stop his recovery, but he did stay far enough away to get instant edgehogged easily. Watch for that more next time. Other than that, I reckon I would've done just the same against that Ness.
Btw, awesome Yoshi Shiri. I likes it a lot.
wtf @ ~ 00:38. Why did you fall all that way and nearly die? 0_o
00:52 - Shiri style egg lay to taunt. First, if he went between the platforms or even landed on the left one he could've easily d-aired you. Second, you could've done a normal grab and then combo'd into something. I know you had fun with this move, and it is a friendly, but take your chances when you can get them! ^_^
Straight after the taunt - Spamming b-air is good, and because your opponent fell for it then it worked. However, all it would take would be 1 CC and he's kneed you in the face.
2:06 - Yeah, the down B. After you realised he missed, you should've done a b-air and fast falled instead of down Bing. I'm sure you know that now though ^_^
2:46 - No DJC up-air combos? The only reason the f-air hit was because your opponent didn't tech or try to jump out or DI. Still, it was effective, so if you're facing that or a similar Falcon again go for gold!
3:18 - You were too far away to hit with that up-B. At best you should have aerialed out of shield or something. ^_^
1st Video general impressions - You like your grounded jab game a lot 0_o. Some opponents can handle it and some can't, and you got lucky in this one I think. Obviously you don't DJC often, unless that was a little technical error in the middle where you got kneed in the face after a DJC on the spot. Otherwise, your Yoshi is definitely good and as all good Yoshis need to be, its fun to watch.
*Starts downloading the next match, wishing I could stream properly with my crappy internets*
2nd video
00:13 - I would've d-tilted out of shield here. The attempted DJC wasn't going to work if he jabbed or f-tilted or dash attack etc so d-tilt was definitely the better option. I know, you were probably scared of the d-smash, but yeah.
1:04 - omfg you actually got the first stock off. I didn't expect that. Good job!
1:11 - lol.
1:18 - F-tilt!!! Tapping won't combo! >_<
1:33 - Ouch, unlucky. Did you DI upwards then? If so, then ignore this comment.
1:40 - Sidestep!! Shield the first few hits, and sidestep into d-smash. Sexiness.
1:45 - The f-tilt wasn't that good an idea here I think. I would've used d-smash, cos you'd get Peach off the edge, and Yoshi is very good at jibbing Peach's recovery. Eggs take out float, instant edgehog stops her superpriority etc. Keep that in your mindset, a Peach off the edge is worth 2 that have been f-tilted.
2:00 - Wth? Oh well, at least you both died!
2:06 - I would've used eggs instead of jumping into a b-air. Approaching the upper platform is dangerous when you can't reach from the ground with your first jump, because its harder to fake out the d-smash.
2:11 - I would've f-tilted, only because it would be more likely to break her CC and prevent any CC'd dtilt or dsmashes.
General impressions of the 2nd match - Lightshield more, like technomancer said. You were getting shield pressured a lot, and a lightshield into edge eggs is sexy. Otherwise, I really can't help you, as it is definitely hard to approach a good Peach, and that's where you had most of your problems. *Next one downloading*
3rd video -
That Ness is kinda weird. The only reason that strategy worked, as far as I can tell, is because Yoshi has no real priority forward facing moves in mid-air that are quick. But really, I can't see it being as annoying as standard SH f-airs, except that these DJC'd ones are difficult to punish unless he's spamming it more than he's paying attention to your adaptations.
Still, when you f-tilted his f-air approach it seemed to stop him in his tracks. That wouldn't work with standard SH'd ones >_>.
*Found Nessby more impressive*
Anyway, rewatching.
Ok... I don't think I'd change much of how you played. He didn't get close enough for you to take the PK thunder and stop his recovery, but he did stay far enough away to get instant edgehogged easily. Watch for that more next time. Other than that, I reckon I would've done just the same against that Ness.
Btw, awesome Yoshi Shiri. I likes it a lot.
technomancer
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Let him CC a D-air.
In PAL that would do like 8% damage if he was crouching when you started it. A grab hit and d-throw would equal that >_<
Beating CC is easy if you just grab or egg lay. Rack up the damage so he can't CC things like DJC up-air and stuff. And, if you do manage to grab Falcon, DJC up-airs is such a good damage racker.
Beating CC is easy if you just grab or egg lay. Rack up the damage so he can't CC things like DJC up-air and stuff. And, if you do manage to grab Falcon, DJC up-airs is such a good damage racker.
YOSHIDO
Smash Ace
Sorry I was only able to see the 1 min and some of the c.falcon match. I like your ur use of the wavedash. The only thing i would have to say is you dont want to throw out more than like 1 jab. After a while people start to catch on. Then you get dodged smashed or grab. I do love the spacing you used on the ness. The only thing i would say is just be carefull of the djcing and Smashes. Cause people love sheild grabin and dodge smashin. But other than that great stuff. You vid helped me out more with stopin my self from dash attackin.
I take it it's the bottom link yeah? Youtube is down atm, I'll watch it later.
D1
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I saw the latest matches ur dair, usmash, and egg usage were the sex...be careful jabbing Peach and Samus tho...you could L cancel and re-dair them again if they're gutsy ^_^ most jumps start @ what frame? IMO I know its probably a 1 digit prime number thats not 5 or 7, if thats the case...dair L cancel re-dair so they eat double damage...cuz U KNOW they wanna CC ur sh** and dsmash u so let 'em eat it... ^_^
Bloshi
Smash Ace
Yay for some Peach bashing fun! That was great I didn't think you would win until you started pulling out high-damage moves. (read: all of the moves) Your eggs could use some more mindgames, though. Remember, you want to aim where they're going to be, not where they are. Very good Yoshi though.
This is more of a personal thing instead of smash skills, but you had some real good momentum at the start and end, but lost it in the middle. Imo you need to work on your consistency. I'll post more when I'm not on my friend's Wii.
I was gonna rewatch it now I'm home and can post more, but youtube is down *again*.
What am I rubbing in Shiri? You have a great Yoshi. I'm just as inconsistent as you if not more, and it's something I have to work on too.
At any rate I hope I didn't offend you by saying that x_x
What am I rubbing in Shiri? You have a great Yoshi. I'm just as inconsistent as you if not more, and it's something I have to work on too.
At any rate I hope I didn't offend you by saying that x_x
technomancer
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I'mma have to call owned on that Peach, good stuff :D but don't hold down when gettin downsmashed lol. Maybe mixup your recovery a bit more? Also you missed with alot of eggs haha, but no biggie, Peach is good at dodging stuff and it opened some things up for you.
OMFG you can browse smashboards on the Wii, I never thought of that.
OMFG you can browse smashboards on the Wii, I never thought of that.
YOSHIDO
Smash Ace
I put my comments on the videos page too. But Um Naw. Peach counters yoshi in most ways. Theres not much you can do against a defensive peach. I've got this new idea of picking different stages to amplify yoshi's powers. FOr instance i dont see how a peach would be able to live against yoshi on poke floats. She would'nt be able to camp.
For the most part, shortcuts against Peach simply don't exist. Keeping her above you is a key to victory, but most Peach players can use a couple of mindgames and get back to your level within maybe 20% damage, more if you're doing well and are using platforms to your advantage.
The only other real 'shortcut' against Peach is edgeguarding. Using eggs to interrupt her float is fantastic, especially when she's recovering low. Noob peaches will double jump and float to recover usually, so interrupting the float means she only has parasol. Then, simply d-tilt or edgehog ftw. Unfortunately doing this is tricky, sitational and if you screw up you usually eat parasol.
Another abusable thing is when Peach is hanging on the edge. She only has 4 options off the edge, as her ledgehop is quite possibly the worst in the game. The 4 options = get up, roll up, jump up and attack up. The attack can be CC'd and if she's above 100% then it can be predicted. The get up is punishable by any attack if you time it right, but I would recommend d-smash. This is because if you time it right, and if she rolls instead, you'll hit her with the 2nd hit. The jump off the edge is punishable by b-air into up-air, possibly a finisher. So, crouch at the edge, watch her getting up animation, and you should be able to either d-smash to punish, CC->d-smash her attack or jump and b-air to punish the jump.
Also - rewatching the match.
Her third stock, you should've edgehogged her when she parasolled at that height.
2:35 - was this a missed l-cancel? Pity, the up-tilt could've done some awesome combos there.
Generally, if a Peach does low float cancels like at the start, d-smash >>> dash attack as a punisher. Remember that d-tilt and d-smash are some of Yoshi's best moves, and the only reason we don't use them is because most people don't leave themselves open for it. That Peach left herself wide open.
Can't think of anything else to add, except good shiz Shiri, keep it up.
The only other real 'shortcut' against Peach is edgeguarding. Using eggs to interrupt her float is fantastic, especially when she's recovering low. Noob peaches will double jump and float to recover usually, so interrupting the float means she only has parasol. Then, simply d-tilt or edgehog ftw. Unfortunately doing this is tricky, sitational and if you screw up you usually eat parasol.
Another abusable thing is when Peach is hanging on the edge. She only has 4 options off the edge, as her ledgehop is quite possibly the worst in the game. The 4 options = get up, roll up, jump up and attack up. The attack can be CC'd and if she's above 100% then it can be predicted. The get up is punishable by any attack if you time it right, but I would recommend d-smash. This is because if you time it right, and if she rolls instead, you'll hit her with the 2nd hit. The jump off the edge is punishable by b-air into up-air, possibly a finisher. So, crouch at the edge, watch her getting up animation, and you should be able to either d-smash to punish, CC->d-smash her attack or jump and b-air to punish the jump.
Also - rewatching the match.
Her third stock, you should've edgehogged her when she parasolled at that height.
2:35 - was this a missed l-cancel? Pity, the up-tilt could've done some awesome combos there.
Generally, if a Peach does low float cancels like at the start, d-smash >>> dash attack as a punisher. Remember that d-tilt and d-smash are some of Yoshi's best moves, and the only reason we don't use them is because most people don't leave themselves open for it. That Peach left herself wide open.
Can't think of anything else to add, except good shiz Shiri, keep it up.
technomancer
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Incorrect sir, Peach can camp incredibly hard on Poke Floats.
It depends where she is, a lot of places are more convenient for eggs than for turnips. Pokefloats has the great ability for you to be underneath Peach at almost every point on the stage, and if not, then you're usually not susceptible to turnips. Imo this stage leads to Yoshi being able to camp more than Peach.
YOSHIDO
Smash Ace
Hmm how. I mean. What make her so hard. Is how she can control the space. She can't control the space on this lv. Cause you dont have to be there. For instance. At the start on squirtle. Thats automatic egg throws. All she can do is roll away. What im sayin is she has to move. This means she has to get in the air at some point in the match. Which will lead to eggs kicks, and tail whips. Up airs. Up smashes. Everything.
Two new videos up. Rip 'em apart, please. I'm loving the comments so far.Yoshido - I see your comments on the videos on DevilTube. I don't have an account, though, so I can't respond, but thanks for your comments both there and here.
And thanks about the comments regarding Peach, guys. I'll try to work a lil harder at the matchup--catching turnips isn't really a problem for me anymore (I didn't get to showcase it in that most recent Peach match since that kid is very much a melee Peach), but I'll see what else I can do, especially recover-wise, to beef myself up in that matchup.
This time, you get to see me go head-to-head with Samus and Pikachu, two of the most annoying characters ever (even though the matches themselves were fun). Is it just me or is every character in this game slowly getting more and more annoying when you have to put in so much work as a Yoshi player? >_<
YOSHIDO
Smash Ace
dont worry shiri. The more you battle the characters. The better you'll get with that match up. Havin your friends pick those Gay alternative life stlye charcters really help at tournaments. I saw the 2 samus matches.
1st round. Good power sheildin. But you got too close to samus. Even though you only missed one smash. It costs you so mutch in this match. Just be careful of her down tilts and what not. shes reall powerful. Great edge guardin.
2nd Round. Reall good job of gettin the better trade off in attacks. I cant rember. But im pretty sure around 4:30 you missed an opurtunity for a tail whip as he was coming back. I saw u got better with the jab game. An how u needed to hit then get out and punish. Again great edge gaurdin. O and heres another thing that can help out against samus. Sheild grab her down smash. It really hurts her throwing her behind ya. U already know what to do from there. Good job man.
1st round. Good power sheildin. But you got too close to samus. Even though you only missed one smash. It costs you so mutch in this match. Just be careful of her down tilts and what not. shes reall powerful. Great edge guardin.
2nd Round. Reall good job of gettin the better trade off in attacks. I cant rember. But im pretty sure around 4:30 you missed an opurtunity for a tail whip as he was coming back. I saw u got better with the jab game. An how u needed to hit then get out and punish. Again great edge gaurdin. O and heres another thing that can help out against samus. Sheild grab her down smash. It really hurts her throwing her behind ya. U already know what to do from there. Good job man.
Dude, Yoshido...you won't believe this. o_oI was playing yesterday with the same Samus kid and I actually figured I'd try to shieldgrab his downsmash (just like you suggested) since I hadn't ever thought it would hit before and it works! I had absolutely no idea shieldgrabbing Samus' downsmash would work--especially since I'm so scared of getting punished by her. Thanks for the tips, man. ^_^
I noticed in both matches, you seemed to get hit by projectiles and slower attacks when used just out of the blue. I think you need to work on your projectile evasion, as projectiles should be a very minimal problem for Yoshi.
Against Samus, I noticed whenever you seemed to be unsure of what to do (i.e. missiles coming towards you or samus about to use d-air from above) you just crouched. Now, although it's useful to crouch try to mix it up a little in friendlies and learn some more options. The more options you discover, the more flexible you become.
I can't really give much advice against Pikachu, except that if you time it right, you can CC that f-air pretty well. Pichu's worst matchups are strong CCers, and Pikachu has a similar weakness. If you can CC effectively in this matchup, then Pikachu has to focus on grabs, which are easy to counter.
^_^
Against Samus, I noticed whenever you seemed to be unsure of what to do (i.e. missiles coming towards you or samus about to use d-air from above) you just crouched. Now, although it's useful to crouch try to mix it up a little in friendlies and learn some more options. The more options you discover, the more flexible you become.
I can't really give much advice against Pikachu, except that if you time it right, you can CC that f-air pretty well. Pichu's worst matchups are strong CCers, and Pikachu has a similar weakness. If you can CC effectively in this matchup, then Pikachu has to focus on grabs, which are easy to counter.
^_^
Thanks, Bringer. I try CCing Pika's forward air, but I guess I'm letting go too early.I usually get upsmashed/downsmashed/grabbed/jabbed out of it. I don't really like Yoshi's options out of CC against Pika's forward air (at least the options I'm thinking of), so I do it mainly to avoid a free upsmash. That move is quite annoying.
And yeah, projectiles own me pretty bad. You like how N64 grabbed/upsmashed me after every single Thunder Jolt he tossed my way?
Anyway, I'll definitely try new stuff when I don't know what to do. Learn some new ish.
YOSHIDO
Smash Ace
Lol no problem. I had to learn the hard way lol.
I was playing yesterday with the same Samus kid and I actually figured I'd try to shieldgrab his downsmash (just like you suggested) since I hadn't ever thought it would hit before and it works! I had absolutely no idea shieldgrabbing Samus' downsmash would work--especially since I'm so scared of getting punished by her. Thanks for the tips, man. ^_^
Fixed.
N64
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This Shiri kid is too good.
Man, I fair'd a lot in that match. I should quit that. But yeah, CC pika's fair whenever you're on the ground and dsmash or dtilt->techchase it. I'm pretty sure it's guarenteed as long as the pika lands in front of you and you get the timing down.
Also, I think you can ftilt the jolts and it kills them. I dunno if the tilt will last long enough to hit pika too, or if this gives you enough time to do another tilt (before the pika gets in range to grab/smash you) or perhaps fsmash to move slightly back and avoid the usmash/grab and then punish pika. All I know is it works for marth and I hate him for it. Freakin metal sword shouldn't cancel out balls of electricity.
Anyways, keep being awesome Shiri.
Man, I fair'd a lot in that match. I should quit that. But yeah, CC pika's fair whenever you're on the ground and dsmash or dtilt->techchase it. I'm pretty sure it's guarenteed as long as the pika lands in front of you and you get the timing down.
Also, I think you can ftilt the jolts and it kills them. I dunno if the tilt will last long enough to hit pika too, or if this gives you enough time to do another tilt (before the pika gets in range to grab/smash you) or perhaps fsmash to move slightly back and avoid the usmash/grab and then punish pika. All I know is it works for marth and I hate him for it. Freakin metal sword shouldn't cancel out balls of electricity.
Anyways, keep being awesome Shiri.
Pikachu spy! >_<Hahaha, thanks for the comments. I'll try them out against Neil, since he tends to give me lots of trouble when I'm not on my A game. The tilt will cancel out the jolt, but I think Pikachu's ground speed will let him get to me before I can do more than a jab. Jabs cancel jolts, too, so maybe I'll try that as an alternative.
Anyway, hopefully we get lots and lots of matches again at BWNY4, man. Those were easily some of the most fun friendlies I had all weekend. Thanks again. ^_^
Depster
Smash Champion
like the first post, yoshi is a naturally airborn character, dont be afraid to juggle like u did with dk in the first vid. U wave dash a bit much (when it is not necessary) Where is the metoer? u could have KOED falcon SO many times with Fair (meteor). And where is the egdegaurd? u could have gotton many more koes from that, too. but ya mostly not enough air, too much ground, and not near enough meteors, and no juggling at all? wats up with that? yoshi has an awesome Uair
EDIT: work a tad on timing possibly? ur OK, but u missed a lot of attacks on the first vid with all three characters
EDIT: work a tad on timing possibly? ur OK, but u missed a lot of attacks on the first vid with all three characters
Will do, good sir. Thanks for the comments.Actually, I try to use up air a lot for juggles, but I think I DJC too fast sometimes and end up DJ landing instead. All the DJC characters have such different timing for their cancels, and Yoshi's takes a bit of getting used to still, despite how long I've been playing him.
And yeah, my timing isn't that good still. Especially with characters like DK and Bowser, timing is of the essence, and fighting characters like Falcon and Fox only highlight when mistakes are made. Working on it, though.
Thanks again for the comments. ^_^
Spyckie
Smash Apprentice
Nice matches.
I'm at no level to critique your playing, but I just wanted to add this -
Full jump the egg throws when you're trying to catch opponents out of the sky - it increases the egg accuracy immensely. Only do it when its safe to do so, though. I felt that if you had done that to both Samus and Peach, the eggs would have definitely hit.
best,
Spyckie
I'm at no level to critique your playing, but I just wanted to add this -
Full jump the egg throws when you're trying to catch opponents out of the sky - it increases the egg accuracy immensely. Only do it when its safe to do so, though. I felt that if you had done that to both Samus and Peach, the eggs would have definitely hit.
best,
Spyckie
Thanks, I appreciate that.The only reason I stay on the ground when trying to egg Samus is so that I can CC if she somehow uses her super-extreme evasion and somehow-suddenly-dangerous fastfalling speed to come hit me out of my throw while she's in the air. I'll keep that in mind against Peach and experiment against Samus, though.