5/18 Matches vs Zhu and Hydrokirby-Critique?

[darkatma]

Hey, I have my new matches, these are the ones i REALLY want a critique on, since they're tournament matches.

This is probably my peak level right now =[
Tell me what i can do to improve

Winner's bracket matches
Zhu(Falco) vs Darkatma(Sheik)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OShLnAUYdp4

Zhu(Fox) vs Darkatma(Sheik)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46jvQS-Q7Os


Loser's bracket match:
Hydrokirby(Falco) vs Darkatma(Sheik)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2TgTqai9dc


Lemme explain:
The tourney had a terrible rule about:
semifinals is best of three, finals best of 5, and everything else is 1 match
(which was really stupid)

Any [helpful] advice is appreciated

 

[Randizzle]

With your Fox vids I noticed that you were trying to usmash after the dthrows quite a bit (and failing to connect with them). I know that kdj likes to do that sort of stuff, but I seriously think it'd be a lot safer and a lot more beneficial to just try tech chasing with more grabs or dsmash. Against peach, I think you really could have just grabbed more in some of the vids.

In general, I like your needle game and aggressive style. However, the aggressive style kind of cost you some really simple edgeguards when you could have easily killed your opponent with a simple ledgehopped bair or a dsmash from the stage. It also seemed to lead to a few rather careless SDs. Not bad, but there's some really sloppy deaths on both players.

 

[darkatma]

yea sorry friendlies cause sloppy deaths

When i get matches where i haveta try i'll get them up too
I meant, aside from silly stuff, what else should i work on?


edit: i already know my sheik isn't gay enough not enough ftilt,utilts, dash attacks at the right timez

 

[thebluedeath1000]

A big tip=Don't ever make a thread name like that, you have no idea the trouble I had trying to click it with my shaky hands lol.

 

[Ares726]

A few things I noticed after watching each round are:

vs Fox
Round 1
When you're coming down in tumbling animation after being knocked in the air, charge/throw needles at your opponent. That way you store up needles/give damage or stop edgeguarding when you'd be simply falling otherwise. Try dsmashing a little less. That's one thing I'm working on right now. Dsmash normally ends combos outside of low percentages. Dtilt would start one.

Round 2
You played this really well. I personally love JC usmash. However, try to be a little neater with it. You can tech chase with it, but you can't just stand over them when they're lying on the ground. Also, if you notice that Fox is pressuring you while you're shielding, try nairing out of your shield. One more thing, try and tighten up your ledge stalling.

Round 3
This one was "meh". It wasn't a blowout, and it could've gone either way. You just got a little greedy at the end. One thing I've noticed about space animals is that while they're lying on the ground, you can fsmash. If the first hit of the fsmash, the second one will too. After the second one you can either dash attack (if they miss the tech) or you can tech chase into a grab/usmash/dsmash/ftilt/dtilt.

Round 4
*please be a new stage, please be a new stage* Darn... Ah well. Nice mindgame on Fox's last stock. He didn't even want to come back. Everything I noticed in this match has already been stated in the previous critiques.

Round 5
It's going to be FD again isn't it? Yep, I knew it. Nice Zelda action. I have no idea if it was good or not, but you got a kill so it was good enough. I can't play Zelda worth anything. Good work with the automatic combos (tilt->dash->fair or tilt->attack->fair). Good stuff.

Overall
You've got a good feel for combos and edgeguarding. You just need to clean it up a little bit. Try more nair and less dsmash. I know friendlies get a little messy though. I'm tired of watching videos right now, I'll post again with critiques on the Peach matches. You did good though, you're definitely making a lot of progress. Keep up the good work.

 

[yomedrath]

i havent read teh other comments and watched the first three fox rounds...
first of all... it seemed in every match you played really diffrent...
first match-> no grabs
second match-> some grabs, techchase -> Dsmash
third match-> no more slap recovery, nice uair evading...
also every time diffrent color XD why are you doing that? (its pretty cool though)

what i would tell you is to improve you edgeguard.. dont just throw needles at him...

either ledgedropped Bair or Nair-rdgeguarding.. either one is more effective
also, what i often do(prolly isnt a very good choice) is D-smash edguard... if you time it right its not very hard to hit, wether they sweetspot or not..
then... in the first game i didnt see any techchase, in the later games i did, but not very effective, and most ended by a Dsmash.. just regrab and regrab and regrab... and then D-smash or use the D-smash only to get them to tech.. so if they dont tech down smash (because its hard to techchase if they dont, because you have to shield)

i´d say my shiek is equal or worse, but i hope my advice helps anyways

 

[darkatma]

Thanks for the critiques,
Thanks for another great critique Ares, but no need to critique my peach matches since they're quite old

I'll actually have some tournament matches from yesterday up soon(in the next two days hopefully), all three are vs fastfallers, and I think tourney matches are better to critique, since i guess i was playing at my current peak level

And i changed that title to a . because i wanted the thread to die for a while I'll change it back after Zhu uploads the vids

 

[NeighborhoodP]

Dash attack into utilts. Utilts **** Fox. You can use them when he's coming in to approach you too if he is even a little too high on his approach.

Throw the needles right when he lands. You messed that up all the time.

Don't bother bthrowing Fox off the edge when he's at like 15% and you're not at the VERY edge. Just dthrow to usmash/tech chase.

 

[~Tac~]

One last critique. Never make a thread name like that again, my curiosity made me enter the Shiek-Zone knowing I dispise her needle-launching fetish. :3

 

[darkatma]

yea i uploaded

critique these, these are cool matches i think

so far i know:
tighten edgeguarding =[[[
but i don't know how, and here's where i need your help. Against spacies of that caliber, how do you edgeguard consistently?

and critique on everything else too
like, real critiques please =]

 

[NeighborhoodP]

Wow, Zhu ****ED you up. His Falco is sick.

You really let him control the pace of the matchup. Power shield every now and then. Let him laser and drill you, roll away, recover, and try again. I stay on the platforms wave landing into needles or bairs, dash attacking, trying to get a grab in. Did you even get more than one grab in?

Your edge guarding is horrible. You have to look at it from his point of view. Falcos always want to illusion back on, so when you throw him off and he's not too far away, he's always going to do that. Needle him to stop it if you must, so when he fires it should be an easy kill.

When you came back from life with your 2 second invincibility, just charge your needles. Don't even bother him on the edge, just wait for him to come back up -- it'll usually be with double laser -- and go from there.

Hydro Kirby's Falco sucks and you really should've ***** him. He was very predictable. First, you need to work on your DI. You died twice when you shouldn't of with proper DI. You need to learn when to expect Falco's bairs and dsmashes, which are really the only things he can do that will kill you.

You like Falco directly above you, because utilt and uair go through / trade, and your trade is better. You don't like Falco below / to the side of you since his bair then goes through everything you have, so in that position you want to hit the ground ASAP. You need to utilt more and get more grabs in. You rarely got in any grabs and I don't know why. You also dsmashed too much. Use dash attack more; you can combo Falco nearly as well as you can combo him.

V Zhu's Fox you played fine at first, though you missed an opportunity for a dash attack which would've led to a slap in the beginning -- I think it was after you ftilted. Instead you wave dashed back and waited for him. If space animals ever miss a tech, your dash attack should be there waiting to **** them. That missed tech ***** you thoroughly -- you cannot ever miss techs v high tier characters, especially Fox, Falco, MArth, and Falcon.

STOP. DOWN. SMASHING. SO. MUCH. The only time I ever dsmash Fox / Falco is when they're at low percentage with minimal knock back and I want to get them the hell off of me so I can set them up for dash attacks and tilt combos. You dsmashed Fox around 82%, which is stupid.

And hit them before you throw them. Why are you passing up easy damage? It doesn't matter wherever they DI, you can still follow up.

Again, when Fox is coming straight down at you, uair. Towards the end he did and he baired because you reacted slowly. An uair would've likely led into a kill there.

And your DI sucks v his bairs. You seriously need to work on that.

 

[darkatma]

Cool
Thanks for the critique, it's very harsh (harsh critique is always good for improvement)

Though what would you do wit a falco who could jc shine out of shield and immediately follow with a bair? Because that's what zhu did to my dash attack from behind, and it scared me (and *****)

Alright, so more patience vs falco, don't jump in recklessly, and get grabs in.
And yea edgeguard =[ I need some humans to practice edgeguarding against.

And less dsmash whoring

Yea i noticed esp vs hydrokirby i didnt follow up after aerials, which would have easily lead into grabs.. And i have no idea why the hell i keep DIing bair wrong, that pissed me off. One i just plain DIed the wrong way, the other one was a reverse bair that screwed my recov. Is it better to just DI directly up against bairs if i don't have any idea which way it's gonna hit me, or to just guess which way and DI perpendicular?

edit: more responses plz