They were full on garbage, wouldn't recommend over Chinese knock off 64 control sticks, THAT bad. I'll post a video of how I broke one putting small amount of tension, these things would NEVER EVER stand up to even the WEAKEST di. 1/10 wouldn't recommend. They get 1 point for accuracy of shape, and that's the only positive thing about the stick only. The elbows get -5/10. I don't wana type more than I have, the only thing to take away from my experience is steer FULLY CLEAR of these brawl level parts.