3 Best Falcos Right Now

[Bismo Funyuns]

I want to discuss the 3 best Falco players in the world right now. I'll start by discussing who I think the top 3 are, and I want to here your feedback. I think the best is Falcomaster PPMD. This is argued very seldom, as his Falco has been dominant for a long time and is not getting any worse; if anything, the Marth is improving so much that the Falco isn't seeing as much action (and attention) as it used to. But it still wrecks. Mango has the second best Falco in my opinion. Though, he typically uses it for one matchup and infrequently uses it for others, the one matchup he uses it for (Fox) is considered to be increasingly in Fox's favor, and he is typically very dominant at the matchup. In the infrequent instances when he uses it for other matchups, it is nearly as successful as his Fox. The third best Falco is probably Westballz, as he has unparalleled tech skill and has seen some very good results, but occasionally he does weird **** like lose to Eddy Mexico at Apex, or even Jake13 at LTC2. I think that Westballz's good results are far more common than the bad, and that no other dedicated Falcos come close to him, so he's 3rd.

 

[KevJames]

I think it's undisputed hat Mango and PP are the 2 best Falco's in the world right now. Whoever is #1 or #2 depends on the their play at the tournament. Westballz, despite his touted technical skill, is very inconsistent. Zhu has been improving as of late. There just aren't a lot of high-level Falco players like it used to be. Old school players such as DaShizWiz and PC Chris have looked really good despite their hiatus.

 

[Bismo Funyuns]

I think it's undisputed hat Mango and PP are the 2 best Falco's in the world right now. Whoever is #1 or #2 depends on the their play at the tournament. Westballz, despite his touted technical skill, is very inconsistent. Zhu has been improving as of late. There just aren't a lot of high-level Falco players like it used to be. Old school players such as DaShizWiz and PC Chris have looked really good despite their hiatus.

Couldn't agree any more about Zhu improving. If anyone could be here instead of Westballz, it would definitely be Zhu. But, for now, advantage Westballz imo.

 

[AirFair]

Yea we all know PP and Mango's Falco's are already top 2. Honestly, I think Zhu has a good shot at number 3.

 

[Doser]

The top Falcos are definitely Mango, PP, Westballz, and Zhu. It would be interesting to see who people think is the #5 falco.

There's Frootloop, Porkchops, Shiz, Larry, and probably others that could compete for that.

 

[trilok]

Its indisputable that Mang0 and PP are the 2 best.
For 3rd best who actually plays falco in tournament, i would say westballz is indisputable with the results he has shown currently.
Leffen also has a really good falco as well, beating westballz a lot when they played friendlies on stream. Axe also has a very good looking falco.

 

[Bismo Funyuns]

Based on some of his recent results, Larry might be #5, which is incredible because he plays other games, too.

 

[m0ll0y]

Westballz Falco has soo much potential , that we don't see consistency enough , if he could get his **** together I could see him having possibly having a better Falco then mango

 

[EllietheOctopus]

Excuse me I'm than all those filthy casuals you call "falco" mains

 

[The Prince L]

PPMD, Mango, Westballz.

Zhu, Shiz and PC are really good too.

 

[16bit]

Mango, PPMD, Westballz.
Pretty much what almost everyone thinks.

 

[Guzzler Guzzler]

I think it's undisputed hat Mango and PP are the 2 best Falco's in the world right now. Whoever is #1 or #2 depends on the their play at the tournament. Westballz, despite his touted technical skill, is very inconsistent. Zhu has been improving as of late. There just aren't a lot of high-level Falco players like it used to be. Old school players such as DaShizWiz and PC Chris have looked really good despite their hiatus.

PC Chris mained falco in 2006 then fox afterwards. Please tell me you aren't saying that just because he beat Ken

 

[Varist]

Playing falco is hard right now because he loses solidly to Fox and Marth and goes even with Sheik, has a nebulous matchup against Peach Puff and ICs, and beats Falcon slightly

PP picked up Marth because Marth covers the Marth and Fox matchups, the Peach Puff and ICs matchups, and he can swap to Falco for sheik and Falcon, which is exactly what he did at Apex.

So our 2 best falcos are dual mains at best and rarely play Falco at worst, Westballz is very inconsistent but is definitely the best chance Falco has for another player maining him, and there's no Falco that exists as a clear frontrunner for 4th because the only other Falco mains are localstompers

 

[OninO]

I think PP originally picked up Marth for the Peach match up didn't he? Also I disagree with you that Falco loses to Fox and Marth.

 

[Bismo Funyuns]

Playing falco is hard right now because he loses solidly to Fox and Marth and goes even with Sheik, has a nebulous matchup against Peach Puff and ICs, and beats Falcon slightly

PP picked up Marth because Marth covers the Marth and Fox matchups, the Peach Puff and ICs matchups, and he can swap to Falco for sheik and Falcon, which is exactly what he did at Apex.

So our 2 best falcos are dual mains at best and rarely play Falco at worst, Westballz is very inconsistent but is definitely the best chance Falco has for another player maining him, and there's no Falco that exists as a clear frontrunner for 4th because the only other Falco mains are localstompers

4th best is Zhu. Guaranteed fact.

 

[Guzzler Guzzler]

I guess Shiz would have to be 5th then

 

[Celerity668]

PPMD, Mango, Axe

 

[Varist]

shiz is not 5th lol

 

[Guzzler Guzzler]

Then who is

 

[KevJames]

Larry Lurr (DEHF)? Doesn't really matter since Falco mains are a dying breed.

 

[Varist]

this guy gets it

 

[Bismo Funyuns]

Larry Lurr (DEHF)? Doesn't really matter since Falco mains are a dying breed.

I agree that Larry is probably the 5th best Falco, or it might be some guy in Florida who gets overlooked because there's like 80 of them.

 

[Guzzler Guzzler]

Every time people talk about the best falco's there's always that one guy who gets really butthurt that no one mentions DEHF

 

[KevJames]

Did I come off as butthurt? I could care less about who's 4th, 5th, and on. I was just mentioning DEHF to fuel discussion.

 

[BloodL10N]

Larry Lurr (DEHF)? Doesn't really matter since Falco mains are a dying breed.

Eh... I wouldn't say they're a dying breed, I just started with Melee, started with PM and Mario when I saw my friends playing it. Then started playing Melee (and this is coming from a new player) because it was the better game, it felt like going from checkers to Chess, speed chess. I was trying out Mario but couldn't use him because of the differences, then was told I couldn't learn Falco because of the tech skill required. (1560mins of training later) Falco main for life.


But I would agree that upon the top 3 Falco's, PPMD, Mango, Westballz (if he's playing good). I put PPMD at the top because he's relatively consistent, whereas Mango is a huge buster when he's not in it.

 

[Guzzler Guzzler]

>gets 4th at apex and 3rd at beast

>huge buster

ok

 

[BloodL10N]

>gets 4th at apex and 3rd at beast

>huge buster

"Gets 4th", I don't see "Got 1st" do I?

4th is beyond respectable, I'm just saying, PPMD is more consistent lately.

 

[Bismo Funyuns]

"Gets 4th", I don't see "Got 1st" do I?

4th is beyond respectable, I'm just saying, PPMD is more consistent lately.

Since when is 4th out of 1,037 not respectable? The top 6 have has nearly interchangeable tournament results, 4th is not garbage. Mango placed in the top .4%

 

[trilok]

Its not what he placed; the result is amazing. Its the inconsistency between his GOAT level play and Buster level play that we have this Buster/GOAT perception. Even mang0 knows when he goes out like a buster.

 

[Bismo Funyuns]

Its not what he placed; the result is amazing. Its the inconsistency between his GOAT level play and Buster level play that we have this Buster/GOAT perception. Even mang0 knows when he goes out like a buster.

So he goes out like a buster. I'm not saying he didn't go out poorly. But since when did when 1 tournament decide that the best player is suddenly crap because he didn't win? Also, I said PP's Falco was better anyway.

 

[BloodL10N]

My point is, PPMD got 1st at Apex, Mango got 4th, that's why I put PPMD above Mango. That's what I was referencing when I said:

"Gets 4th", I don't see "Got 1st" do I?

If Mango had won 1st then the list would go Mango, PPMD, Westballz.

 

[Varist]

pp didn't win apex using falco lmfao this is a best falco thread get your **** out of here

on top of that mango only played falco a few times in tournament what does either of their placings at apex have to do with who has the better falco

 

[trilok]

PP didn't win with falco, but it seemed to help in certain matches such as against armada's fox in two games and against s2j primarily. If he would have faced Hbox, we'd see falco there too.

I don't think apex specifically says if either has the best falco. PPMD is complaining right now he can't play falco when he isn't in tip top tournament shape, and mang0 seems to hit his Buster level play with his falco during that tournament for because of any number of reasons. Inconsistency, or buster level play is not limited to just falco, it is a common phenomenon amongst both spacies that they have huge variance in tournament performance.

 

[-ACE-]

Dittos don't mean a thing but this is a good set that is semi recent and shows shiz is still a heavy hitter.

http://youtu.be/nkz6Ec_lBD8

 

[Charlesz]

Lol Shiz is not a heavy hitter. He's really good in space animal dittos but he get crushed by everyone else that is good. The guy has been playing for 10+ years and still approaches people mindlessly at the edge.

 

[daquist]

Everyone is doubting on the Frootloop. He's getting good realllllllll fast

 

[Bismo Funyuns]

He's obviously not in the top 3, but I'm surprised not one person has mentioned Zanguzen.

 

[Guzzler Guzzler]

He's not even close to top 3 why would we mention him

 

[Bismo Funyuns]

He's not even close to top 3 why would we mention him

In the discussion for number 5. I'd say he's one to bring up at the very least. However, as I stated earlier, I do think DEHF is the 5th best Falco.

 

[Steak&Cheese]

I kind of feel like Axe's Falco is on par with Westballz and Zhus but I could be wrong.