1.0.8 Patch Changes

[BlastHappyNinja]

Maybe I'm being dumb but I'm pretty sure I can still run off reverse needle charge off ledges and platforms.

On a similar note, ZeRo says that needles have more endlag, but I'm not feeling this tbh.

[Edit] Ok , so I played a bunch with needles, and it's likely just a placebo, but maybe there's something to this? needles --> bf works just fine, but I feel that sitting back and spamming single needles might be a tad slower. Again, probably placebo.

ZeRo says a lot of things.. I have respect for him as a player, but I trust people who grind out hours in the lab for a single character a lot more because they're basically specializing in what I want to know. I'd just take what he says with a grain of salt honestly. Keep experimenting when you get the chance.

 

[ShinRamen]

I was just pointing out what someone who's mad good at this game seemed to think, It's not as if I take his word as the ultimate truth lol. I remember when he would call himself a 'fox main' when diddy was the only character seen used by him in tournament at that point, but he does happen to probably be the best in the world at this game so I thought it might be worth a mention.

On the actual differences to sheik, i'm 100% certain I can do the reverse needle charge stuff off platforms and ledges. Needles endlag, i'm just not sure.

 

[tronfox64]

I may have just never noticed this before, but playing online today I was able to Dair someone and then almost immediately use my second jump and hit them with another aerial, all while never having landed. Has this always been doable?

 

[tronfox64]

I may have just never noticed this before, but playing online today I was able to Dair someone and then almost immediately use my second jump and hit them with another aerial, all while never having landed. Has this always been doable?

 

[tronfox64]

I may have just never noticed this before, but playing online today I was able to Dair someone and then almost immediately use my second jump and hit them with another aerial, all while never having landed. Has this always been doable?

Edit: Omg no idea why this triple posted. I must make the walk of shame.

 

[estabon9]

Sooooo ZeRo and Esamjut claimed that sheik's fair got changed... apparently the angle is awful, according to esam, and fair bouncing fish missed him at 60%. This is from twitter. Not sure if this is true... I haven't noticed anything.. could someone tell me zero and esam are just super mistaken?

 

[estabon9]

Also did forward throw always deal 2 damage?

 

[estabon9]

Never mind about the forward throw. It was doing two damage only in training mode for some reason

 

[WondrousMoose]

Holy triple posts, Batman.

 

[ArikadoSD]

God all these placebo effects are making me endlessly nervous and i cant test it cuz no wiiu cuz my bag got ****ing stuck at the airport and im without clothes or consoles.

 

[Ping Warrior]

God all these placebo effects are making me endlessly nervous and i cant test it cuz no wiiu cuz my bag got ****ing stuck at the airport and im without clothes or consoles.

I'm really feeling the placebo power since I haven't played much Sheik in these past few days. Felt a lot slower when playing with a friend, but I know I'm rusty too.
If we have any sheets of damage numbers though, we can test those without the risk of opinion/bias

 

[ShinRamen]

Well, i'm still getting f throw - fair - fair - fair as a 4 hit true combo in training mode, in the sheik ditto with no DI. Just the same as before. Fair - bouncing fish also worked vs pika at 60%.

 

[Joaco]

God, Sheik is still the same, stop saying nonesense

 

[ArikadoSD]

I played a lot of sheik offline today and can confirm nothing changed. Everything is just placebo

 

[Overswarm]

Have you guys tested DI? My f-throw -> fair chain seemed off playing against a roomate's Ryu. Ryu is new and I haven't had a chance to test, but it seems that DIing AWAY from sheik (the direction fair is hitting you) is moving them farther. Placebo or non?

 

[_Tree]

Have you guys tested DI? My f-throw -> fair chain seemed off playing against a roomate's Ryu. Ryu is new and I haven't had a chance to test, but it seems that DIing AWAY from sheik (the direction fair is hitting you) is moving them farther. Placebo or non?

Ok, heard quite a few others talking about this. Looks like I'll need to test it.

 

[Overswarm]

I believe he was DIing up and away, if that helps; should be the same distances as set away (but higher).

 

[ArikadoSD]

I've always not been 100% accurate when it comes to hitting people with fair strings from an fthrow if they DI away. Often times they're too far away and can air dodge before I can land a fair, that's not something new.

 

[BlastHappyNinja]

So we're all in agreement though that the placebo was strong with this patch and we have nothing to worry about. Excellent. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to prepare for the influx of nublet Falcons in the Mi smash scene to change to a flood of Ryus. I'll be off now to cry myself to sleep, tally-ho. -tips hat-

 

[Overswarm]

So we're all in agreement though that the placebo was strong with this patch and we have nothing to worry about. Excellent. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to prepare for the influx of nublet Falcons in the Mi smash scene to change to a flood of Ryus. I'll be off now to cry myself to sleep, tally-ho. -tips hat-

Do you have a bunch of players picking up Ryu?

https://www.facebook.com/events/795820207174947/

FC Return is giving a $100 prize to whoever goes the farthest using only the 4 DLC characters, has $500 pot bonus for Smash 4 and pays top 8. Not too far away from you guys.

 

[BlastHappyNinja]

Do you have a bunch of players picking up Ryu?

https://www.facebook.com/events/795820207174947/

FC Return is giving a $100 prize to whoever goes the farthest using only the 4 DLC characters, has $500 pot bonus for Smash 4 and pays top 8. Not too far away from you guys.

Funny you should say that, we had someone post about it today on our FB group page. It looks fun, I'm hoping to have quite a few smashers from our scene show up and participate.

 

[6 g0d]

Maybe I'm being dumb but I'm pretty sure I can still run off reverse needle charge off ledges and platforms.

On a similar note, ZeRo says that needles have more endlag, but I'm not feeling this tbh.

[Edit] Ok , so I played a bunch with needles, and it's likely just a placebo, but maybe there's something to this? needles --> bf works just fine, but I feel that sitting back and spamming single needles might be a tad slower. Again, probably placebo.

im having the same exact problem im not sure if the c stick just isnt sensitive enough

 

[Krokoza]

You can b reverse and glide in reverse off a ledge still but I guess you have to go all the way off now. It's just made harder.

Have we always been able to cancel the needles with an air dodge and land on the stage without lag? I just noticed you could. It takes some good timing.

 

[ArikadoSD]

Have we always been able to cancel the needles with an air dodge and land on the stage without lag? I just noticed you could. It takes some good timing.

yes. The timing looks lenient to me tbh though.