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Recent content by JayZee1700

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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Overrated: :4megaman::4marth::4lucina::4samus::4bowser::4lucario::4peach: Underrated: :4kirby::4zelda::4falco::4myfriends::4yoshi::4olimar::4charizard: I think :4yoshi: is very underrated for what his frame data has to say. I think :4zelda: is even MORE underrated, but i don't want to be that...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    I hate to burst your bubble, but Samus' tether is not the longest; ZSS's tether beats that by a long shot. I guess all of that heavy armor would do that to her... Placement on tiers does not only have to do with weaknesses and strengths and which is more prominent, but also how the character's...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Doc / Mario is a very similar case to the CF / Ganon case. Whilst CF and Ganon have similar moves, some with similar uses, Doc and Mario have similar moves, but very different uses. List of Similar moves b/t Doc and Mario: - Jab - U-tilt - F-tilt - D-tilt - U-air - B-air - F-air - N-air -...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    A It's important to note that certain characters have "selective" recoveries. For example, DK has a very good horizontal recovery, but his vertical recovery is not that good. Jigglypuff's horizontal recovery is also good, but is susceptible to getting footstooled, and therefore dying from low...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    It's not really forcing someone to approach, it's more of a baiting tactic. Opponent sees DK/Sheik charging Giant Punch/Needles and thinks "I can punish that" or "Oh crap, I don't want them to get it fully charged" so they approach. It's a mind game, really, and it only works on those who think...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    I'm pretty sure that Mario and DK have the same air speed...according to kurogane hammer they both have an air speed of 1.15... EDIT: Although I can't say it wouldn't be amazing if DK's air speed was faster than Mario's...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    i always thought that Bayo struggled most against zoners and early kills. Lucario fits this bill because he can kill Bayo really early. For example, in Game 4 in the set between Salem and Tsu @ Frostbite 2017, Tsu was at 201%, and then killed Salem @ 54% with a bair. Bayo's lightweight and tall...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Also note that DK has probably some of the best aerials in the game, including B-air, U-air and N-air. His D-air is one of the strongest meteors in the game, and F-air does meaty damage, and it spikes. U-air has intangibility on DK's head starting Frame 1. Outside of his iconic Ding Dong, it's...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    I know I'm joining the conversation a little late, but I just wanted to reiterate that FD as a counter pick vs. DK is, as mentioned before, a double edged sword. Yes, it's very easy to juggle and punish DK for his mistakes, but if the DK player makes the correct choices, they can take your stock...
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    Smashboards Community Voted Tier List: Version 4 COMPLETE! Break for a few months...

    I agree that many clone-ish characters are underrated, (Even though Tink is technically a clone of Link and Tink is better, but whatever) however I don't see how Greninja is similar to Sheik. I know that both of them have high level tech, but that's about it. I'm not saying it's not true, I just...
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    Smashboards Community Voted Tier List: Version 4 COMPLETE! Break for a few months...

    Uh...no? Where did you find this false idea? I'm pretty sure that everyone agrees Mario is better than Greninja. THANK you! It was clear that, from Brawl, Link was a lot better in Smash 4, and I was positive Link had potential, but thanks to T, we see it. I think that Link's placement is so...
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    Smashboards Community Voted Tier List: Version 4 COMPLETE! Break for a few months...

    +:4link: I've stressed this so much that I'm basically repeating myself. All :4link: needed to become a high tier was results. He has the kill power, the zoning, the utilities, but had no player that could showcase him. Thankfully, T proved to the community how good Link is, scoring wins on...
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    Smashboards Community Voted Tier List: Version 4 COMPLETE! Break for a few months...

    True. Also note that Rosa's light weight gives her some more troublesome MU's against heavy hitters like Bowser, DK, and especially Ike, due to the whole sword thing. Another thing is that she's a tall character, so her hurt box is large, making her easier to hit, and therefore kill her. Whereas...
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    Smashboards Community Voted Tier List: Version 4 COMPLETE! Break for a few months...

    Remember Larry did win 2GGT: Mexico Saga, winning 2 sets over ZeRo. With all of this controversy over basically half of the top tier, I'm remaking my list. :4bayonetta::4diddy::4sheik::4cloud::4sonic::rosalina:(:4zss:/:4fox:)(:4mario:/:4mewtwo:) Personally, I think that both the pairs of...
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