Guess that's true. Anyone out here still liking FE6? I always loved the game for it's difficulty. Even though the reinforcements of the enemy are cheating *******s.
It's one of my favorite Fire Emblems, but not my #1 which goes to Thracia 776. Shoutouts to Blazing Sword, New Mystery Emblem, and Path of Radiance, my other favorites.
He isn't actually bad at all, his late promotion just hurts a lot. And FE6 has enourmous troll growth rates, so Roy having worse stats than other Lords isn't always surprising, his whole army suffers from the same fate. I actually most of the time grind Roy to Level 20 as quickly as possible, then kind of use him as a dodge tank with a Slim Sword for other characters to catch up with.
Nah he means Sophia/Sofiya, the shaman in chapter 14 (desert) that starts at a low level. Besides that, Roy's growths are on-par with the other Elibe lords, but his growths in comparison to common units in his own game actually outclass most lords when they're compared to the growths of common units in their own games. I've always wondered if Roy truly had bad growths since I always thought they were excellent compared to other units in his game, then I actually hit the lab and was pleasantly surprised. It's his promotion time that kills him, and I love meatshielding promoted units that can't do **** against Roy. I trade a sword to him if I make a slight oversight and leave a unit in a position where they'd be potentially dead, where he'll save that unit.
If we ever saw FE6 overseas, changing Roy's promotion time alone, and maybe giving the Sword of Seals infinite uses since it truly is the strongest weapon in Elibe (same case with Ragnell/Alondite having infinite uses while the Dawn Brigade weapons, Urvan, the best tomes, etc. had limited uses) along with matching Falchion and Ragnell would make it so that nobody would complain about Roy. I'm going to write to IS about that if Roy is confirmed, I already included something about that in the ballot.
I'm on Ch.8 of the story and Roy's stats seem to be just fine really. It's just his late promotion that hurts him. Besides, doesn't Eliwood promote late in the game? For me, he only promoted at the end of Ch.27.
Eliwood does promote late, but he truly shines in Hector Mode where he can get so much mileage out of his promotion. It's the only mode most fans play, and Hector Hard Mode has tons of popularity within the GBA part of the fanbase itself, yet they still use Eliwood's promotion as a point against him and act like Hector is God. At least Roy has 6 movement and an overpowered stick after his late promotion in a game where swords are the best option 100% of the time. I never understood the Hector worship and probably never will. If he wasn't in the game, or was different, I think western fans would appreciate Eliwood and Lyndis a lot more.
Do fans on your end praise Eliwood? I'm kinda glad actually. One of my goals starting out around 2010 and 2011 was to make people see that Eliwood was at least as good as Hector when Eliwood hate was there every now and then, and I continued that goal but didn't work as hard at it once 2013 and beyond hit.
Due to recent events, I started wondering . . . what are you all's thoughts on Lucina as the Marth clone? Much like how people would scapegoat Lucario as being Mewtwo's "replacement" in SSBB, did you ever view Lucina as being a replacement for Roy in SSB4?
I never did, personally; if she had had the same inner-sword-sweetspot mechanic as him, then it'd be a different story.
I was wondering if she could reliably function as a Roy replacement at first. I was very relieved when she was nothing like Roy. Too many of her moves share trajectory, almost exact frame data, her dair shares the exact same sweetspot, and specials are almost exactly the same in how they function. Roy at least boasts his specials, up smash, Blazer (all of which have drastically different frame data than Marth), trajectory is important on moves like dtilt, and dair meteor is much harder which would honestly have a place in this game with Marth/Lucina's difficult spikes.
Also, just because a character has a similar playstyle doesn't mean they can replace what I like about Roy as a character from his game and his Awakening cameo, or his super swag armor no matter what he's wearing. That's why I was incredibly relieved when I found out Lucina was nowhere near being a Royplacement, since it made pushing for Roy's inclusion much more easy to be optimistic about, and gave me much more incentive for pushing for a declone.
It's the same thing as "Ike replacing Roy" or "Lucario replacing Mewtwo" in Brawl. It's just a load of crap really.
Yeah, those are huge loads of bs. I've mained Ike since '08 and never once viewed him as a Roy replacement. I always thought Mewtwo being replaced by Lucario (and what some said with Greninja) outright dumb since all of them share so little. Just because they're humanoid (not the egg group) Pokemon. There are people who genuinely think Lucario or Mewtwo is a clone of the other because their neutral B is the same, outside of Lucario's being aura-dependent and Mewtwo's being beefy no matter what percent (rage is a given for any move in the game, anyways).
To be honest I used to think Lucario and mewtwo were incredibly similar characters, until Iactually saw them side by side. It wasn't until I played lucario against my sis playing mewtwo that I actually saw just how different the two of them are. Just because two characters look and seem similar does not mean they are clones or replacements.
Hopefully more people who play with the Mewtwo DL-see this.
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist the opportunity.
I'm afraid of people still thinking the same after, but I've seen people who think Ike's moveset is uninspired, a small few who have said Roy and Ike have the same moveset immediately before or after calling Roy a third Marth, and people who still call Falco a 100% clone who should have been removed, so I won't worry and lose sleep over them.
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