It's certainly an option, and it's harder to mistime because it hits twice. This can also help defend against techs. Depends on the character, really.
Bowser has a whole lot to work with, however, like B-Air, F-Tilt, and F-Smash.
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Q&A The Bowser Questions and Advice Thread
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Bowser has a whole lot to work with, however, like B-Air, F-Tilt, and F-Smash.
SforzendaiZair
Smash Cadet
thank you i was wondering since i have just mastered most of bowsers moves the problem i have been having is using the ftilit to edgeguard, so i was wondering of alternative....
ohh and is fire everusefull to use off the edge?
ohh and is fire everusefull to use off the edge?
Certain characters' recoveries are forced to take a very high amount of damage because of their angle from below, like Captain Falcon or Falco.
Granted, that's assuming they come from below, but it can rack up considerable damage if you get them there. Situational, but it can work.
re Doc:
Remember that you can jab his pills, and pretty much the match gets easier for you. Both characters have great gimping games, so you want to try to get doc off the edge, and at a relatively low angle--if he recovers from above, his recovery becomes somewhat decent.
Also, he can't cape your recovery, which although doesn't really matter, makes it harder in some situations for doc to edgeguard.
Watch out for his d-air, as I'm pretty sure it wrecks bowser's anti-air game, and instead stick to up-bing out of shield. In fact, bowser's fortress can really shut down doc's grab game (his other strength) if done at the right times.
Remember that you can jab his pills, and pretty much the match gets easier for you. Both characters have great gimping games, so you want to try to get doc off the edge, and at a relatively low angle--if he recovers from above, his recovery becomes somewhat decent.
Also, he can't cape your recovery, which although doesn't really matter, makes it harder in some situations for doc to edgeguard.
Watch out for his d-air, as I'm pretty sure it wrecks bowser's anti-air game, and instead stick to up-bing out of shield. In fact, bowser's fortress can really shut down doc's grab game (his other strength) if done at the right times.
SforzendaiZair
Smash Cadet
you can jab docs pills??? are there other projectiles that you can cancel this way?
Popertop
Smash Champion
yeah
M2's lil' shadow balls
M2's lil' shadow balls
SforzendaiZair
Smash Cadet
does it work on samas uncharged shots??? (i rarely fight m2)
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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You can jab any projectile within eight or nine damage that isn't a laser.
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
^^is there a way to figure out which attacks you can cancel out which projectiles with? (not only with bowser, but in general with everyone)
SforzendaiZair
Smash Cadet
ya that would be usefull! XD projectiles tend to be my bain, i always fight campers ><;
KingJiggyWiggy
Smash Lord
I've fought these type of people before. Getting close is the idea but if you sometimes stay back they will approach you, making the job easier.
-Wolfy-
Smash Champion
counterpick stages so you cant be camped, which is a majority of the strategy of bowser. yoshis story would be good. maybe even mute city or brinstar. keep it close.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Clanking is pretty much completely based on damage. Within eight or nine percent, it'll clank.
SforzendaiZair
Smash Cadet
ahhh cool that will help, and counterpickin does help but i usally get stuck with at least one or two rounds of FD in a tourny and they usally cost me big...
Ohh does anyone have a vid that shows you wave land with bowser?
Ohh does anyone have a vid that shows you wave land with bowser?
KingJiggyWiggy
Smash Lord
You know you could just ban FD before the match starts.
I can get the one with wavelands up for you rather soon.
-Wolfy-
Smash Champion
And you really should. I can't imagine a scenario where you would want to counterpick to FD
SforzendaiZair
Smash Cadet
thanks! XD
Ya i know about the counter pic but i forget somtimes... =/ which cuase LOTS of pain...
SforzendaiZair
Smash Cadet
yes bad FD, unless your figting a really cocky roy, then it becomes funny....
so I have to mm this noob with bowser. I do not play this character and I'm hoping that the skill gap would make me win. But I am absolutely terrible with bowser. This isn't too nooby, he can wd and sh and knows about other techs. He plays roy.
so my question is; Are there any tactics that bowser can spam that scrubs generally fall for?
like for pichu you can say spam nair and mewtwo dtilt. but bowser doesn't really have a quick move that i can take advantage of. Usually I just double jump fair spam and upb out of sheild. anything else i should do?
so my question is; Are there any tactics that bowser can spam that scrubs generally fall for?
like for pichu you can say spam nair and mewtwo dtilt. but bowser doesn't really have a quick move that i can take advantage of. Usually I just double jump fair spam and upb out of sheild. anything else i should do?
The Phenom
Smash Lord
I saddely think that what your going to use is effective enough; I really hope that's not true though. Well just wait and see if you get a real reply from some Bowser Main.
dashdancedan
Smash Journeyman
Space fair and ftilt and UpB out of shield.
Abuse the Klaw, no one knows how to deal with it if they're not used to fighting him.
Macman I can show you stuff if we meet up ever.
Macman I can show you stuff if we meet up ever.
klaw is tooooo good but hard if you're brand new - but seriously though klaw is amazing.
keep it simple though he'll probably get frustrated with just up b and a few fairs here and there since he's apparently a noob
keep it simple though he'll probably get frustrated with just up b and a few fairs here and there since he's apparently a noob
aiight kevinm, thanks for the advice everyone else
so I was playing bowser against the randoms at my college, so he wouldn't be my weak spot when I did my 26 char mm. And this character is mad sexy, everything he does like screams gtfo the screen and is so fulfilling. I actually like waveland, and his claw throws are ill.
claw fthrow, sh uair, to regrab on FFers is sickkkk
claw is sexy in general
gimping spacies is also sick,
I might start actually playing bowser more seriously.
so I was playing bowser against the randoms at my college, so he wouldn't be my weak spot when I did my 26 char mm. And this character is mad sexy, everything he does like screams gtfo the screen and is so fulfilling. I actually like waveland, and his claw throws are ill.
claw fthrow, sh uair, to regrab on FFers is sickkkk
claw is sexy in general
gimping spacies is also sick,
I might start actually playing bowser more seriously.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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There's always the "Hey, this character has potential" phase before you realize that the character sucks.
I mean, don't get me wrong, Bowser has some good points, but like... his bad points HURT.
I mean, don't get me wrong, Bowser has some good points, but like... his bad points HURT.
bowser is terrible LOL
klaw is tight though
klaw is tight though
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
hey what is dair good for?
and bowser is terrible, come on pichu's f-smash has more range , speed , and knock-back and can be comboed into or used as edge guard (just a random pichu is better than someone speech)
and bowser is terrible, come on pichu's f-smash has more range , speed , and knock-back and can be comboed into or used as edge guard (just a random pichu is better than someone speech)
Miggz
Pancake Sandwiches
My friend is in the middle of this phase with Bowser.
He still can't admit how bad Bowser is.
Its good he is recognizing his strengths.
But I wish he also just accepted his weaknesses too.
=/
pichu is a lot worse than bowser
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
hey i am just as worse as that guy's friend but for pichu ,but what do i do with dair for bowser?
Learn to type coherently?
If you're asking what bowser's d-air is good for, the answer is "not much." It can be used to poke through weakened shields, and maybe intercept attacks from below you from people w/o disjointed hitboxes >_>
If you're asking what bowser's d-air is good for, the answer is "not much." It can be used to poke through weakened shields, and maybe intercept attacks from below you from people w/o disjointed hitboxes >_>
Miggz
Pancake Sandwiches
Lol!
That's not a good thing, dude.
Oh and I swear I bump into you like everywhere.
Unless its me.
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
lol i am listening to you may right and it just said i may be insane. no i am a stalker (kidding) no every now in then someone keeps running into me and it's always a little weird and bowser's flaws are way easier to see size and slow and bad recovery and pichu has range and hurts self and light weight and everything else is great
yea my bowser phase lasted about a few hours, I got over him pretty quickly. Although I have a new found respect for people who play bowser and bowser in general.
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
dude this has been going on with my pichu for about a year and bowser is fun to play as and many people play as him at some point
bowser does not have a bad recovery
dashdancedan
Smash Journeyman
-Wolfy-
Smash Champion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfhLEM-cHnw
Gimpy used an above average amount of d-airs in this vid, so you can see when it works/doesn't work.