Meta The "Bowser Matchups" Thread

[KingJiggyWiggy]

ahahha ok you got me. I never slept with 6 women before..... in the same room that is...... ok jjkkjkjkjkj.

I just felt like spamming so much I'd rename myself KingSpammyWammy.

ANYWAY.

Zelda isn't that hard if you ask me. Don't let her get you more than once in a running-A combo. That ****s annoying. Don't EVER let her throw you, her throws are gay. Simply retaliate with a Koopa Klaw then forward smash her at like, the most *** time ever. Witness and see the anger in their eyes after you have done so. If you can do that then I am proud to say that you are good to go. I can now release you into the jungle.

 

[WarriorKnight]

I love taking zelda to the edge. The matchup is wierd tho, i dont have much experience fighting zeldas even tho ive won all of them. A lot of people dont know but when zelda down throws you always DI away as far as you can so you can avoid the G A Y kick from connecting. I do F-smash alot when the zelda spams the aerial kicks.

The only zeldas wit knowledge that ive fough would be Emmy, Ryoko, Wes.

Lmao after i beat Ryoko in our first tourney match, he turned the game off and switch smash disc version 1.2 to the old one. He Zeo to death'd me on the 1st stock b/c she was soo different (still 2 stocked him in that match tho).

Zelda is super strong and G A Y in smash V 1.0. For example w/ bowser you cant DI off of her upsmash or if you're next to her while shes doin it, it will pick you up. Also her f-smash has Massive sheild stun so you cant really move for a good while, plus her deadly aerial kick has way more knockback.

But in the new one you can actually DI off of the upsmash and quickly counter after blocking the f-smash. If you ever have to fight a zelda in tourney make sure its the new version. Who cares if you cant flame cancel in the new one, its still worth it.

 

[UrajKingofDarkness]

this isn't the ask gimpyfish thread OR the spam thread this is the matchups thread so lets get back on topic

current matchup is zelda, somebody wanna jump on that?

Alright, we got some zelda answers, let's go with Link now.

And the reason I quoted you is to ask, where IS the Ask Gimpyfish thread, if this isn't it?

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

i have a lot of questions for gimpy myself

 

[Gimpyfish62]

oh i forgot i renamed that thread, its just called like a bowser questsions thread or something now

 

[KevinM]

When facing a captain falcon, say one that loves being a grab ***** (so mostly all captain falcons when not shffl'ing like mad menz) Whats my best oppurtunity to get an attack in, like it seemed when i was out of my shield, i'd get naired, and as soon as i hopped in it i'd get grabbed, i'm sick of barely beating captain falcons when i should be destroying them.

 

[WarriorKnight]

against capt, i like doing full jumped f-airs b/c alot of them get a bit nervous when im near them on the ground. sometiems i jab then f-tilt or i'd just turn the other way and f-tilt them(good mindgame). I have invinsible edgeguard against cap that i never ever mess up lol. The back air-barrage, downangled f-tilts, ledge hopped downairs at low percentages and ledge hopped back-airs at higher percentages. Sometimes i also just ledge hop and waveland back to the edge. But the best thing i could tell you is to pick a stage with platforms b/c on FD you lose alot of tactic options you can have.at high percentages if he times it right he can always catch you in the full jumped knee after the upthrow so even jumping out at the perfect frame you'll still get hit and have no jump if you survive, so your best option is di'ing behind his throw and DI his back-air away so he doesnt chain up any hits. DI down and away from his N-airs to make it more difficult for him to chain up any combos.

Im pretty much an expert in this matchup with bowser but all i have to say that in the very end, this matchup is way too dificult for bowser. you can still get the crap comboed out of you wether you have excellent DI'ing choices or not. theres more stuff i wanted to write but i gotta go so enjoy what i put up.

 

[vincentninja68]

against capt, i like doing full jumped f-airs b/c alot of them get a bit nervous when im near them on the ground. sometiems i jab then f-tilt or i'd just turn the other way and f-tilt them(good mindgame). I have invinsible edgeguard against cap that i never ever mess up lol. The back air-barrage, downangled f-tilts, ledge hopped downairs at low percentages and ledge hopped back-airs at higher percentages. Sometimes i also just ledge hop and waveland back to the edge. But the best thing i could tell you is to pick a stage with platforms b/c on FD you lose alot of tactic options you can have.at high percentages if he times it right he can always catch you in the full jumped knee after the upthrow so even jumping out at the perfect frame you'll still get hit and have no jump if you survive, so your best option is di'ing behind his throw and DI his back-air away so he doesnt chain up any hits. DI down and away from his N-airs to make it more difficult for him to chain up any combos.

Im pretty much an expert in this matchup with bowser but all i have to say that in the very end, this matchup is way too dificult for bowser. you can still get the crap comboed out of you wether you have excellent DI'ing choices or not. theres more stuff i wanted to write but i gotta go so enjoy what i put up.

Boy does all this sound familiar, my friend's Captain Falcon is too strong for my Bowser to handle, I have to resort to Mario or Falco to win.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

actually he CANT always time the throw -> knee

you can airdodge out of it EVERY SINGLE time ;P

just make sure you di like upish and away

 

[Psychoace]

actually he CANT always time the throw -> knee

you can airdodge out of it EVERY SINGLE time ;P

just make sure you di like upish and away

or you'll get another shffled knee.

 

[KevinM]

Not if you airdodge towards the ground and away from captain falcon.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

mix up your airdodges or you'll just get knee'd after

 

[WarriorKnight]

yea the air dodge does some good i guess ur right. but a character like capt can quickly pick up on those as well. bowser airdodge sucks lol. I will try to apply this more to my game against other characters besides sheik.

 

[5150]

fastest air dodge in the game. but wait is that seriously possible? like, air dodging out of falcon's uthrow to knee combo? cuz like i tried everything against tapion last night (it was some deja vu ****) and nothing worked. i hav ea feeling your falcons dont know how to combo.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

no falcon player i've ever played knows how to combo then
(g-reg, darkrain and isai to name a few)

bowser's di is super effective

he's a big fat thing of fatness

 

[5150]

no falcon player i've ever played knows how to combo then
(g-reg, darkrain and isai to name a few)

bowser's di is super effective

he's a big fat thing of fatness

ya no its not possible. you cant air dodge out of combos lol. gg bowser players. also bowsers DI is stupid as hell. sure you can survive a big hit but ur di is retardedly bad for combos. if you di in you get comboed easier if you di out then you get edgeguarded easier. gg bowser players. gg.

 

[Eggz]

ya no its not possible. you cant air dodge out of combos lol. gg bowser players. also bowsers DI is stupid as hell. sure you can survive a big hit but ur di is retardedly bad for combos. if you di in you get comboed easier if you di out then you get edgeguarded easier. gg bowser players. gg.

Gimpy airdodges out of knees like 24/7. Just get better at airdodging lol.

 

[5150]

Gimpy airdodges out of knees like 24/7. Just get better at airdodging lol.

then his opponents cant knee right. get better @ knowing the game lol.

 

[KevinM]

Dude everything you say is so helpful, face it, Gimpy and most people here face better competition then you, just because your a mediocre player who can't learn how to airdodge out of comboes doesn't mean it doesn't work. Looks like you better stfu and learn how to play the game, maybe do a little more research on the game instead of exercising your E-***** on a message board. Shouldn't you be off trolling the Roy boards anyways? I heard they need a mediocre smasher over there as well.

 

[Falco&Victory]

lol, calm down Kevin
in fact, the main character of the story i started in the creative minds thread is named Kevin lol

but yeah 5150 bowser is harder to combo than you think

 

[Chip.]

then his opponents cant knee right.

Isai, Darkrain, and G-reg officially cannot combo now™


>_>

 

[KevinM]

lol, calm down Kevin
in fact, the main character of the story i started in the creative minds thread is named Kevin lol

but yeah 5150 bowser is harder to combo than you think

I'm calm, I just think that if you're going to talk **** to people you might want to be better or at least on the same level as them. What has 5150 done with his Bowser? Comboed a level one and said he invented a combo? GG

 

[DrewB008]

what has kevinm done besides post 2578 times?

edit: 2579

 

[5150]

hahaha man kevinm opened a can of angst there its like his gimpy boner got deflated and had to lash out at SOMEONE lol

 

[Gimpyfish62]

hahahahaha bowser is not hard to combo @ whoever said that *lazy enough to not scroll up*

bowser is pretty terrible, you should all stop using him lol

 

[Dark Iori Yagami]

I agree you should all start using mewtwo that guy has some chest hair and a mean up throw.

 

[5150]

hahahahaha bowser is not hard to combo @ whoever said that *lazy enough to not scroll up*

lol ya that made me laugh.

 

[KingJiggyWiggy]

CC foxes shines then up+b out of the combo.

 

[KevinM]

5150, what you're saying is pretty much, if bowser gets hit, he loses a stock, its ******** and not helpful, thats all i'm getting at

 

[5150]

5150, what you're saying is pretty much, if bowser gets hit, he loses a stock, its ******** and not helpful, thats all i'm getting at

and for the most part, that's near 100% true. if i get hit vs a player who knows what they're doing against bowser (like tapion does) its either a stock or im at a high percent and recovering off the stage because every decent character has such ridiculous guaranteed **** on him. tapion plays falcon so it's not too hard to do the guaranteed **** but that's the point, bowser sucks.

 

[Falco&Victory]

stop playing bowser? How would that help, I luv boozer

i can actually hold my own sometimes against semi-average tourney players now

 

[KingJiggyWiggy]

Just do what I told you to. CC then break the combo with the fortress. But be extra careful with characters like Peach, she has a down-smash that reaps the grass like air. Instead, DI UP with her down-smash to get out of it.

Even if you did get high damage, it really doesn't matter much. Bowser doesn't have to die until 180-220% damage anyway. Unless you meet a knee face to face. I mean, knee to face....

 

[5150]

Just do what I told you to. CC then break the combo with the fortress. But be extra careful with characters like Peach, she has a down-smash that reaps the grass like air. Instead, DI UP with her down-smash to get out of it.

Even if you did get high damage, it really doesn't matter much. Bowser doesn't have to die until 180-220% damage anyway. Unless you meet a knee face to face. I mean, knee to face....

if you can break out then it isnt a combo. whoever is attempting to combo you doesnt know what he's doing.

 

[KevinM]

bowser sucks.

Guess we agree on at least one point, and its not that i'm saying Bowser can get out of everything with an airdodge, KDJ showed me that just with his DK, but its not a guaranteed stock if you get hit.

 

[5150]

but its not a guaranteed stock if you get hit.

against every top tier, it is.

-crashmania and 5150

 

[KingJiggyWiggy]

if you can break out then it isnt a combo. whoever is attempting to combo you doesnt know what he's doing.

So your telling me that LuninSpectra and Zelgadis don't know what they are doing?

 

[Gimpyfish62]

haven't you guys learned? 5150 plays people who are without error, his friends are the absolute best players in the world and he has the best bowser as well as the most bowser knowledge.

you just have to read his posts, thats basically what he says in every single one of them.

 

[KingJiggyWiggy]

lol @ that. Now I know that Gimpyfish is definitely the smartest guy out there.

 

[Falco&Victory]

did you see gimpy say "/sarcasm"? Cause I sure as hell didn't

 

[KingJiggyWiggy]

I know dude. I know.