Meta The "Bowser Matchups" Thread

[KevinM]

I ain't afraid of your bowsers fool =)

 

[Haruno Kotetsu]

Heh, I'd like to see them face Cao and MagnuM.

 

[DJ Nintendo]

We'll definitely have no problem taking them on. We'll even do it for money too.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

*rolls eyes*

whats the next matchup? haha

edit: before that explodes into something it doesn't need to, i'm only messing around haha

 

[Venom NY]

everyone definetly does need to get at dj's and wk's boswers getting 4th place with only double bowser at a huge tourny (mlg),next tourny imma be recording so ya gonna see how beast these 2 are

 

[MagnuM]

Haha, at a recent tournament last Saturday, when I whipped out Bowser late in a tournament singles to low gasps in the background, I heard someone whisper to someone else "Yo that's one of the 0C2 Bowsers"

When Gimpyfish and I team up as double Bowser, we are too powerful to control...

Ooooh trashtalk! It's on!

 

[victra♥]

Hey Stu! That was at my tourney wasn't it? Cant wait till Sid gets some vids up.

 

[5150]

Haha, at a recent tournament last Saturday, when I whipped out Bowser late in a tournament singles to low gasps in the background, I heard someone whisper to someone else "Yo that's one of the 0C2 Bowsers"

When Gimpyfish and I team up as double Bowser, we are too powerful to control...

Ooooh trashtalk! It's on!

so you play bowser because you want to be noticed. cool.

 

[vincentninja68]

Going back on topic, not sure this character has been brought up or not, but I need help with fighting C.Falcon. My friend is very good with him and continuously dashdances then moves off in another direction to keep his movements random. He's very hard to keep up with especially when he can perfectly apply the knee. Help?

 

[Haruno Kotetsu]

Im not quite experienced fighting Falcons, but playing defense with Bowser is a good key.
Shield grabbing, edge guard/hog, SHFFL'd spaced Fairs work well..
UpB spam..
No spot dodging against a falcon with Bowser unless timed well.. Covers little distance, little invicibility frames, Slow movement.

 

[vincentninja68]

I did discover another strategy for falcon on my own, all you do is have undivided attention on C.Falcon. if you're confident that you won't kill yourself, you'll be able to see everything Falcon is doing and have a counter ready. Besides, bowser is so huge, it's hard not see him on the screen even if you're trying not looking at him.

 

[KevinM]

You're not supposed to be looking at your character ever.. You should know where he is anyways, he's not going anywhere you don't tell him too.

 

[vincentninja68]

Right..anymore advice?

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

play bowser in giant melee...like klaw combos to fsmash on CF at like any percent

 

[Megachuk]

how about vs jiggly. And don't say jump off the stage and die, cuz he'll just make me suffer and save me with rising pounds and uairs.

 

[vincentninja68]

Anti Jiggs tatics on pages 2-3.

 

[Smashboozer]

BOWSER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jiggly is mad gay.
I prefer fighting sheik than that round hoe anyday.

Good advice.

Im still haveing a hard time VS Marth. basically if I try to recover high I get nair'ed or fair but if I try to recover low I get Fsmashed. that and if I do grab the ledge he just camps and reverse wavedashes into a fsmash if I ledge hop or dtilts me if I dont. Also should I take him to YS or FoD cause on YS I cant sweetspot and getted tipped.

 

[KevinM]

Why would you ever take a marth to YS?

 

[Smashboozer]

Cause at the time I was dumb and was like "Gimpy said YS is good fo' Boozer I must constantly counter-pick.

 

[KevinM]

Yeah see thats not good.. don't do that

 

[Gimpyfish62]

if a marth took me to yoshi's i'd gladly accept, but i doubt i'd necessarily counter him there (depending on the marth player of course)

 

[Smashboozer]

Generally, whats a good stage to take a marth to?

 

[Falco&Victory]

Generally, whats a good stage to take a marth to?

Final destination, Bowser rox there

seriously, Yoshi's island

 

[Smashboozer]

Well the angled ledges work against bowser in that they meup for a tipper, when I try to recover.

@Falco+Victory:Sorry about calling you FalseFalco its been stuck in my head all day, IDK why.

 

[Falco&Victory]

No prob, you're not the only one.

Hmm, 2 of the 3 best edge guarders in the game going at it. I'd say choose a small level and spam fast attacks and attacks with priority/large hitboxes. you should do fine if you're a lot better than the marth

 

[Smashboozer]

Nope, I aint. Some guy named Meep at an NCB.(NorCal Biweekly)
I try Ftilts but his nuetral-a jab beats me. Im also a sucker for running into retreat wavedash Fsmashes.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

dreamland isn't a bad stage to take marth to either actually
random platform tippers aren't really a worry there, but meh

 

[Smashboozer]

I dont like dreamlands sealing, it stunts my vert kills.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

I dont like dreamlands sealing, it stunts my vert kills.

Still, I'd say it prevents Marth kills a lot more than it does Bowser's kills. DI is nice.

...

LET'S TALK ABOUT SHEIK.

It's hard for me to say much more than "get FoD and space well". What else should we be looking out for?

"Don't get grabbed" is always nice, as well...

 

[Gimpyfish62]

just go to fod and space well.

seriously.

don't think ive lost to a sheik on fod since wayyyyyy before fc

 

[5150]

I dont like dreamlands sealing, it stunts my vert kills.

bowser doesnt need a low ceiling to kill early off the top. but you do need the luxury of not having to worry about platform tipping.

 

[Smashboozer]

hmmm. Sounds good.

 

[Micheloxx]

well man i dont know if spacing will just solve the match up vs shiek man, i dont know, litle bit of mind games XD

 

[Gimpyfish62]

little bit of mindgames?

you have to use the mind crush manuever in that matchup XD

 

[KevinM]

And ledgehopped klaw for edgeguard is too good as well.

 

[KingJiggyWiggy]

Yes, but don't use it repetitively unless you know your opponent can't learn from mistakes.

So how many of you tried ledgehopped flame canceling?

 

[TheReflexWonder]

So how many of you tried ledgehopped flame canceling?

As a means of returning back to the stage, yes. Most of the time, it didn't work very well, but against certain characters, it could be a viable way to get back. Certainly not spammable, but any extra option's nice.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

ledgehopped flame cancel is great for people who dash dance a lot when you are on the edge to avoid getup attack, as soon as you move out they basically come rushing right into it lol

 

[UrajKingofDarkness]

I fight Simna a lot, having known him for far too long. So, obviously:

Ness.

His moves have high priority over Bowser's it seems and his throws are as insane as Bowser's. What to do, Gimpy?

 

[Smashboozer]

Gimpy just hates on the Ness 'till he SD's himself.