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How is Bayonetta a Zelda clone?
Anyway Okami is a masterpiece, StarFox Adventures an underrated gem.
Ahh, I didn't mean that Bayo was a Zelda clone (neither is DS), I meant that those are the top games on my list for PS3.
 

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Minish Cap is my favorite 2D Zelda.

Zelda II is great, you gotta give it time though. It's also more fun if you grind for Exp in the first Temple.

Zelda II is the only game I followed a Let's Play with because it's so damn hard. brisulph's LP is good:
I wish that I bought my 3DS before the price drop.

Well... looks like this summer I will boot up my Zelda: Collector's Edition disc again.
 

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here's any interesting topic

what's that one underrated game that you will always tell people to go play

for me that would be Lost Vikings 2
 

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I really don't think Zelda will become a co-op game...
Yeah I agree, Zelda should remain a single player experience. What does need Co-op is the next 3D Mario game.
IDK why it's soo far fetched (Had to do it) to have 1 person as Mario and another as Luigi.
Heck with the Gamepad they don't even have to share the same screen.
 

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I remember how much a big and rabid fanbase Final Fantasy used to have. That was as recently as 2007. A lot really has changed with this generation. There is certainly far more Nintendo hate than I have ever seen before.

For final fantasy I'd say XIII and XIV were what made most of the fanbase leave in disgust.

As for Zelda, I remember Eiji Aonuma politely say Miyamoto is what's holding them back.
 
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here's any interesting topic

what's that one underrated game that you will always tell people to go play

for me that would be Lost Vikings 2
Sengoku Rance

Because despite being a low budget porn game, it's a far better strategy game than FE will ever be, and FE is damn good, so that's saying a WHOLE lot.



 

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Anyone wanna play Minecraft while we wait for Smash? I've got all the time in the world. Invite me if so. I'm on Hamachi and Evolve, under the name of Cobalsh.
 

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Sengoku Rance

Because despite being a low budget porn game, it's a far better strategy game than FE will ever be, and FE is damn good, so that's saying a WHOLE lot.



This is what porn looks like now...??? :sadeyes:
 
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Even if you're right, this seems like such a bizarre thing to say???
Well, that's what makes it an underrated gem.

Most people will shy away because they think, "meh, silly porn game," and pass on it.

But Rance is special. People come for the porn, and stay for the deep and intricate strategy.

Actually, most people skip all the porn scenes just to get back to the strategy, game's deep and hella addicting.

Here's /vg/'s Q&A: http://pastebin.com/iJJWsprT
 

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Anyone wanna play Minecraft while we wait for Smash? I've got all the time in the world. Invite me if so. I'm on Hamachi and Evolve, under the name of Cobalsh.
Nah, I'm busy having a crisis about what kind of job to look for.
 

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I think my main problem with Twilight Princess (and Skyward Sword) is their linearity compared to some of the older zeldas and related to that, lack of reason to explore. I like the games i just feel they misses something.
 

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They're failing PRECISELY because they're trying to follow in the footsteps of OoT. Twilight Princess was essentially OoT 2.0, and an improvement in just about every way. However, people dislike it in comparison because of nostalgia. Not to mention most of TP's shortcomings are because it lacks its own identity in trying to follow OoT, best example, Ganondorf stealing the spotlight from Zant.

Imo, OoT, while a good game, is THE MOST overrated Zelda by far. People need to stop asking for "a game that matches OoT in terms of quality" and start asking for Nintendo to work with what they have to make Zelda good again.

Zelda is a series that still has tons of potential, but just needs to be re-invented at this point. It is a prime example of why Devs shouldn't listen to fans.
I do not think Twilight Princess improved on Ocarina in every way. It had a clunky Wolf mechanic in a saturated world that was not fun. It had an expansive field just as an excuse to ride a horse for a longer amount of time. No magic meter which was a bummer. And I think it might have had less secrets (though I am not quite positive on this one). Also, there were not enough things to buy or enough games for the ruppees. They seemed solely to exist for the magic armor. I also liked the Ocarina story (with time travel and Ganondorf for the first time) better than Twilight.

I think Ocarina of Time is only overrated in some people's eyes is because besides Majora's Mask there really hasn't been a Zelda game that could go toe-to-toe with it. And it came out in 1998. Alot of time for improvement that has not arrived.

In terms of reinventing, I agree on that point. Instead of trying to replicate Ocarina the developers need to explore new areas. Time manipulation in Majora's Mask and the different masks were amazing. Skyward had an upgradable system which was great. I think Magic and secret items should make a return.
 
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Yes, the opposing team gets ***** so badly it's not even funny.
The game plays like Risk. The MC, Rance is on a quest to sleep with all the Princesses in JAPAN. He gets hired by Oda Nobunaga to help him during the Warring States period to help him conquer his opponents.

The mechanics are complex, and I can't really take the time to explain it all, but basically you have generals which you can recruit through out the game and they control a sizable force which determines their battle power. Each combat scenario is broken into both sides picking a max of 6 Generals and having them face off. If you win, you win part of a territory. Once you conquer all the parts, you win that province, if you conquer all the provinces, then you defeat an opposing shogun. Which means Rance gets to have sexy time with a princess. The game is broken into turns which play out like months, you have a limited number of actions in a month/turn (which you can increase), that includes attacking an opponent. During your turn you can do other things like explore secrets and even go on quests for rare items and exp. In addition, you can do things so that Rance will get satisfaction points (guess how), which allows you to purchase items and even recruit powerful generals.

There is one main plot, (I won't spoil it), with a huge plot twist, which will likely end with you and your army getting obliterated, as well as all your generals dying, forcing you to restart (everyone restarts their first run). The game focuses on time management the most, you really have to plan out your moves to make the most of them. By Turn 70, **** goes down, and if you aren't ready, you'll lose.

Beating the main quest unlocks 3 more alternate storylines, which you have to access by doing certain actions in the campaign. Likewise, beating the game and getting more character clears by endgame, gives you post-game points which will give you cool bonuses for the campaign. Likely, you'll spend most of your postgame exploring all the different options in the game, and trying to recruit and clear all of the generals.
 

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LOL at a this GameFAQs comment to my Mario series analysis:

popularity does not mean anything.

think of what Waluigi would represent, the spin off series. Who does it better? Daisy.

She has her own sports outfit for pete's sake, half her appearances after brawl show her in her sports outfit.


your analysis is very horrible judged. you favour popularity that even you think geno has more chances than daisy in her sports outfit.
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That Daisy comment was so dumb that it's stupid.

Pretty fitting that "Daisy" and "stupid" are going hand and hand, though.
 

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Also, when it comes to women argument, how come people latch onto the **** tier women like Daisy and Krystal? It baffles me. Don't really use the vagina trump card at all, so I wouldn't know.
 

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Also, when it comes to women argument, how come people latch onto the **** tier women like Daisy and Krystal? It baffles me.
Exactly. Everyone knows that Marth Lucina, Paletuna, and Dixie are the best.
 
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A porn strategy game? Lol the ****?

What strategy is there to beating your meat :laugh:
The reason is because Alicesoft is a doujin company. They, like all VN devs make low budget games for PC.

So, the only way to appeal to the market is by having porn or sex in your games. It's why just about every visual novel out there, from Fate Stay Night, to MuvLuv, to Saya no Uta, HAS to have a gratuitous sex scene with the main girl.

Rance is a VN/Strategy Game hybrid, so it's the only way it gets noticed. That being said, all the H-Scenes are actually quite hilarious, but not exactly fappable imo.

Imo, the niche appeal is why it's an underated gem, with a mad soundtrack at that:



Anyway, that's all I gotta say on Rance. It's the one underrated gem that deserves more attention than it gets. But it's not for everyone. If you love FE, you'll love Rance. If you feel like checking it out (and are over 18, and have no shame like me), I've already posted /vg/'s FAQ a couple posts back.
 

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It's not a main Zelda title. I can 100% certainly say that the Zelda Wii U title WON'T be co-op.
I would not say 100%. :smirk:
Our mission in developing this new Zelda game for Wii U is quite plainly to rethink the conventions of Zelda. I'm referring to things like the expectation that the player is supposed to complete dungeons in a certain order, or that you're supposed to play by yourself. The things that we've come to take for granted recently.
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A porn strategy game? Lol the ****?

What strategy is there to beating your meat :laugh:
You don't know strategy until you can successfully pull off a double-decker under-hand scoop in under 3 secs.

EDIT: Do it to this makes it even more better
 

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If Medusa makes it in Smash, they should add a petrifying effect which would work similarly to the ice effect.
 

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You know I find it very ironic how Medusa never preforms her signature petrifying capabilities in the games. At best it's a eye beam attack that causes the shaking status. Hell, even the Medusa Head item does more petrifying then the actual Medusa. Though, that's physically preforming the action in the games.
 
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