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So uh...I'm gonna go ahead and post one of the weirdest **** anyone's ever seen. Apparently, I've been doing this little thing called Smash Wrestling since '06, where we have random videogame and non-videogame characters come together to beat the living **** out of each other in Smash. Some might be asking me why I have the word "wrestling" in the title. That's due to the championships and sometimes have to wrestle each other. Anyway, here's the current stuff I have:

Smash Roster:

Agumon
Anturai
Ariel (original name)
Bandito (original name)
Banjo (Mixed Tag Team Champion)
Black Shadow
Blaziken
Bloom (original name)
Bonzer (original name)
Bowser
Bowser Jr
Buizel
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Cheezer (original name)
Chip (original name)
Chrom
Coco Bandicoot
Crash Bandicoot
Crunch
Daisy
Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong
Donkey Kong
Espio (Coin Champion)
Falco Lombardi
Fox McCloud
Gabumon
Ganondorf (Intercontinental Champion)
Garvedoir
Gengar
Gia (copied after Power Ranger Megaforce/Super Megaforce; Women's Tag Team Champion)
Gibson
Grace (original name)
Greninja
Heracross
Ike (Smash Champion)
Isaac
Javier (original name; World Tag Team Champion)
Jigglypuff
Kicks (original name)
King Dedede
King K Rool
Kirby
Knuckles (Xtreme Champion)
Krystal
Lance (original name)
Leon (original name, set to return Sunday)
Link
Lip
Little Mac
Lucario
Lucas
Luigi
Mach Rider
Marth
Marth
Maximus (original name; World Tag Team Champion)
Medusa
Megaman
Meta Knight (United States Champion)
Mewtwo
Mike Jones (Speedy Champion)
Minun (Speedy Tag Team Champion)
Mr. Game & Watch
Nana
Ness
Nidorina
Nova (Women's Champion)
Nutty (original name)
Olimar
Otto
Paige (original name, copied from WWE Diva Paige; Woman's Tag Team Champion))
Pacman (to debut on roster Sunday)
Patamon
Palutena
Peach
Pellet (original name, World Champion)
Pichu
Pikachu
Pit
Plusle (Speedy Tag Team Champion)
Popo
Pounce (original name)
Renamon
Ricky (original name)
Ridley
ROB
Rosalina
Rose (original name)
Rusty (original name)
Samus
Sandslash
Scyther
Shadow the Hedgehog
Shasta (original name)
Shulk
Snip (original name)
Solid Snake
Sonic the Hedgehog
SPRX-77
Miles "Tails" Prower
Takamaru (Japan Champion)
Techo (Neopets)
Toad
Toon Link
Vaati
Valentina (original name)
Villager (male, female will debut in October)
Waluigi
Wario
Weavile (formally Sneasel; European Champion)
Wii Fit Trainer (female, male will debut in October)
Wolf O' Donnell
Wynter (original name; Mixed Tag Team Champion)
Yoshi
Zangoose
Zelda


Now for the current champions and date they became champs:

SSB World Champion: Pellet 4/6/14
SSB Smash Champion: Ike 5/25/14
SSB Intercontinental Champion: Ganondorf 12/8/13
SSB United States Champion: Meta Knight 4/6/14
SSB Japan Champion: Takamaru 4/6/14
SSB European Champion: Weavile 5/25/14
SSB Speedy Champion: Mike Jones 5/25/14
SSB Women's Champion: Nova 5/25/14
SSB Coin Champion: Espio 5/25/14
SSB Xtreme Champion: Knuckles 2/16/14 - Currently in 4th Reign
SSB World Tag Team Champions: Javier and Maximus 5/25/14
SSB Speedy Tag Team Champions: Plusle & Minun 2/16/14
SSB Women's Tag Team Champions: Gia & Paige 4/6/14
SSB Mixed Tag Team Champions: Banjo & Wynter 3/17/14

Notes:

The Speedy Championship is based on lightweight fighters only. There are several females (Samus, Chip, Rose, etc) who can actually qualify for the championship due to being some of the toughest females around. Most women along with those like Mario, Bowser, Ike, etc cannot qualify for the belt. People like Pikachu, Kirby, Fox, Marth, etc are lightweight and able to qualify for the belt. Same rules apply for the Speedy Tag Team Championships

The Coin Championship was invented by my nephew after we played constant Coin matches during Melee and Brawl. Gave me the idea back in '09 to make the belt. Rules are playing coins match. Person with most number of coins at end of match wins and is champion

The Xtreme Championship is very similar to WWE's version of the Hardcore Championship: Anything goes rule. In this kind of match (Xtreme), items are on and set to med-high. Basically items are legal in these kind of matches.

The Mixed Tag Team Championship is a male and female fighter teaming up for the tag titles


Teams:

ABS (Ariel, Bloom, Shasta)
Awesome Electrics (Plusle and Minun)
Bonzer and Gabumon
Bounty Hunters (Wolf, Snake, Mach Rider)
Cash Wilds (Bandito and Ricky)
Cat Twins (Snip and Pounce)
Chick Busters (Valentina and Grace)
Eternity of Darkness (Mewtwo, Bowser, Ganondorf, Ridley)
Fire Emblem (Marth, Ike, Roy)
Gia and Paige
Heroes of Courage (Link, Pit, Zelda, Palutena)
Holy Unalliance (Weavile and Gengar)
Ice Climbers (Popo and Nana)
Kicks and Patamon
Kings of Brawl (King Dedede and King K Rool)
Kirby and Pikachu
Koopa Kingdom (Bowser and Jr)
Mario Bros (Mario and Luigi)
The Mega$tars (Donkey Kong, Lance, Nidorina)
New Kids on Da Block (Javier and Maximus)
Peach and Daisy
Razor Winds (Zangoose, Scyther, Sandslash)
Rouge and Samus
Speedy Boyz (Pellet and Cheezer)
Star Fox (Fox, Falco, Krystal)
Super Robot Monkeys (Antruai, Nova, Gibson, SPRX-77, Otto)
Team Sonic (Sonic, Tails, Knuckles)
Wario Inc (Waluigi and Wario)
Yoshi & Toad
2 Hot 2 Burn (Charizard and Blaziken)



Characters used in Brawl

Mario: Mario, Knuckles, Nova, Little Mac
Donkey Kong: DK, Maximus, Heracross
Link: Link, Shulk, Isaac, Chip
Samus: Samus, Meagman, Renamon
Yoshi: Yoshi, Agumon
Kirby: Kirby
Fox: Fox, Bandito, Krystal, Otto, Greninja, Cheezer
Pikachu: Pikachu, Tails, Plusle, Pellet, Minun, Pichu
Falcon: CF, Mach Rider, Blaziken, Kicks, Wii Fit Trainer
Jigglypuff: JP, Shasta
Luigi: Luigi, Crash, Waluigi
Ness: Ness, Villager, Mike Jones, Nutty
Bowser: Bowser, Anturai, Bowser Jr, Ridley
Peach: Peach, Daisy, Rosalina, Lip
Zelda: Zelda, Coco, Vaati, Garvedoir, Ariel, Medusa
Ice Climbers: Popo, Nana
Falco: Falco, Techo, Lance
Marth, Marth, Valentina, Rose
Gaondorf; Ganondorf, Black Shadow, Crunch
Game and Watch: G&W, Pacman
Pit: Pit, Grace, Scyther, Palutena, Rouge
Meta Knight: MK, Bonzer, Patamon
Wario: Wario, Banjo
Ike: Ike, Leon, Takamaru, Gabumon, Roy, Chrom
Pokemon Trainer: Charizard (since PT, Ivysaur, and Squirtle are released :( )
Diddy: Diddy, Sandslash, Dixie, Buizel
Lucas: Lucas, Ricky
King Dedede: DDD, K Rool, Wynter
Olimar: Olimar, SPRX-77, Gia
Lucario: Lucario, Mewtwo, Gengar
Snake: Snake, Gibson, Pounce
ROB: ROB, Paige
Sonic: Sonic, Shadow, Snip, Javier, Espio
Toon Link: Tink, Toad, Gatomon, Bloom, Weavile
Wolf: Wolf, Rusty, Nidorina, Zangoose



Call up roster (so far):

Marshall (when he is announced as a fighter in Smash)
Ghirahim (possibly returning in the future)
Impa (possible)
Ray MK (possibly returning)
Midna (possibly returning)
Dark Samus (deconfirmed, but can play as the black/brown Samus attire, possibly returning)
Silver the Hedgehog (deconfirmed for the most part, but has a Sonic alt attire of him)



So far, here's my little Pay-Per-View matches I have for Sunday night called Electric Glory:

Pellet vs Sonic the Hedgehog for the SSB World Championship
Javier and Maximus vs Wolf O' Donnell and Solid Snake for the SSB World Tag Team Championship
Nova vs Coco vs Wii Fit Trainer vs Valentina - Fatal 4 Way for the SSB Women's Championship
Banjo and Wynter vs Shadow the Hedgehog and Rouge the Bat for the SSB Mixed Tag Team Championship
Knuckles vs TBA for the SSB Xtreme Championship
Weavile (w/Gengar) vs Chrom for the SSB European Championship
Takamaru vs Olimar vs Ness - 3 Way Dance for the SSB Japan Championship
Wario (w/Waluigi) vs Toad (w/Yoshi)
Mario vs Bowser - Bombs Away Match (Bob-Ombs only)
Gia and Paige vs Snip and Pounce - non title match





...thoughts? I'm super weird as **** I know
You had me, then you lost me.
 

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So uh...I'm gonna go ahead and post one of the weirdest **** anyone's ever seen. Apparently, I've been doing this little thing called Smash Wrestling since '06, where we have random videogame and non-videogame characters come together to beat the living **** out of each other in Smash. Some might be asking me why I have the word "wrestling" in the title. That's due to the championships and sometimes have to wrestle each other. Anyway, here's the current stuff I have:

Smash Roster:

Agumon
Anturai
Ariel (original name)
Bandito (original name)
Banjo (Mixed Tag Team Champion)
Black Shadow
Blaziken
Bloom (original name)
Bonzer (original name)
Bowser
Bowser Jr
Buizel
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Cheezer (original name)
Chip (original name)
Chrom
Coco Bandicoot
Crash Bandicoot
Crunch
Daisy
Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong
Donkey Kong
Espio (Coin Champion)
Falco Lombardi
Fox McCloud
Gabumon
Ganondorf (Intercontinental Champion)
Garvedoir
Gengar
Gia (copied after Power Ranger Megaforce/Super Megaforce; Women's Tag Team Champion)
Gibson
Grace (original name)
Greninja
Heracross
Ike (Smash Champion)
Isaac
Javier (original name; World Tag Team Champion)
Jigglypuff
Kicks (original name)
King Dedede
King K Rool
Kirby
Knuckles (Xtreme Champion)
Krystal
Lance (original name)
Leon (original name, set to return Sunday)
Link
Lip
Little Mac
Lucario
Lucas
Luigi
Mach Rider
Marth
Marth
Maximus (original name; World Tag Team Champion)
Medusa
Megaman
Meta Knight (United States Champion)
Mewtwo
Mike Jones (Speedy Champion)
Minun (Speedy Tag Team Champion)
Mr. Game & Watch
Nana
Ness
Nidorina
Nova (Women's Champion)
Nutty (original name)
Olimar
Otto
Paige (original name, copied from WWE Diva Paige; Woman's Tag Team Champion))
Pacman (to debut on roster Sunday)
Patamon
Palutena
Peach
Pellet (original name, World Champion)
Pichu
Pikachu
Pit
Plusle (Speedy Tag Team Champion)
Popo
Pounce (original name)
Renamon
Ricky (original name)
Ridley
ROB
Rosalina
Rose (original name)
Rusty (original name)
Samus
Sandslash
Scyther
Shadow the Hedgehog
Shasta (original name)
Shulk
Snip (original name)
Solid Snake
Sonic the Hedgehog
SPRX-77
Miles "Tails" Prower
Takamaru (Japan Champion)
Techo (Neopets)
Toad
Toon Link
Vaati
Valentina (original name)
Villager (male, female will debut in October)
Waluigi
Wario
Weavile (formally Sneasel; European Champion)
Wii Fit Trainer (female, male will debut in October)
Wolf O' Donnell
Wynter (original name; Mixed Tag Team Champion)
Yoshi
Zangoose
Zelda


Now for the current champions and date they became champs:

SSB World Champion: Pellet 4/6/14
SSB Smash Champion: Ike 5/25/14
SSB Intercontinental Champion: Ganondorf 12/8/13
SSB United States Champion: Meta Knight 4/6/14
SSB Japan Champion: Takamaru 4/6/14
SSB European Champion: Weavile 5/25/14
SSB Speedy Champion: Mike Jones 5/25/14
SSB Women's Champion: Nova 5/25/14
SSB Coin Champion: Espio 5/25/14
SSB Xtreme Champion: Knuckles 2/16/14 - Currently in 4th Reign
SSB World Tag Team Champions: Javier and Maximus 5/25/14
SSB Speedy Tag Team Champions: Plusle & Minun 2/16/14
SSB Women's Tag Team Champions: Gia & Paige 4/6/14
SSB Mixed Tag Team Champions: Banjo & Wynter 3/17/14

Notes:

The Speedy Championship is based on lightweight fighters only. There are several females (Samus, Chip, Rose, etc) who can actually qualify for the championship due to being some of the toughest females around. Most women along with those like Mario, Bowser, Ike, etc cannot qualify for the belt. People like Pikachu, Kirby, Fox, Marth, etc are lightweight and able to qualify for the belt. Same rules apply for the Speedy Tag Team Championships

The Coin Championship was invented by my nephew after we played constant Coin matches during Melee and Brawl. Gave me the idea back in '09 to make the belt. Rules are playing coins match. Person with most number of coins at end of match wins and is champion

The Xtreme Championship is very similar to WWE's version of the Hardcore Championship: Anything goes rule. In this kind of match (Xtreme), items are on and set to med-high. Basically items are legal in these kind of matches.

The Mixed Tag Team Championship is a male and female fighter teaming up for the tag titles


Teams:

ABS (Ariel, Bloom, Shasta)
Awesome Electrics (Plusle and Minun)
Bonzer and Gabumon
Bounty Hunters (Wolf, Snake, Mach Rider)
Cash Wilds (Bandito and Ricky)
Cat Twins (Snip and Pounce)
Chick Busters (Valentina and Grace)
Eternity of Darkness (Mewtwo, Bowser, Ganondorf, Ridley)
Fire Emblem (Marth, Ike, Roy)
Gia and Paige
Heroes of Courage (Link, Pit, Zelda, Palutena)
Holy Unalliance (Weavile and Gengar)
Ice Climbers (Popo and Nana)
Kicks and Patamon
Kings of Brawl (King Dedede and King K Rool)
Kirby and Pikachu
Koopa Kingdom (Bowser and Jr)
Mario Bros (Mario and Luigi)
The Mega$tars (Donkey Kong, Lance, Nidorina)
New Kids on Da Block (Javier and Maximus)
Peach and Daisy
Razor Winds (Zangoose, Scyther, Sandslash)
Rouge and Samus
Speedy Boyz (Pellet and Cheezer)
Star Fox (Fox, Falco, Krystal)
Super Robot Monkeys (Antruai, Nova, Gibson, SPRX-77, Otto)
Team Sonic (Sonic, Tails, Knuckles)
Wario Inc (Waluigi and Wario)
Yoshi & Toad
2 Hot 2 Burn (Charizard and Blaziken)



Characters used in Brawl

Mario: Mario, Knuckles, Nova, Little Mac
Donkey Kong: DK, Maximus, Heracross
Link: Link, Shulk, Isaac, Chip
Samus: Samus, Meagman, Renamon
Yoshi: Yoshi, Agumon
Kirby: Kirby
Fox: Fox, Bandito, Krystal, Otto, Greninja, Cheezer
Pikachu: Pikachu, Tails, Plusle, Pellet, Minun, Pichu
Falcon: CF, Mach Rider, Blaziken, Kicks, Wii Fit Trainer
Jigglypuff: JP, Shasta
Luigi: Luigi, Crash, Waluigi
Ness: Ness, Villager, Mike Jones, Nutty
Bowser: Bowser, Anturai, Bowser Jr, Ridley
Peach: Peach, Daisy, Rosalina, Lip
Zelda: Zelda, Coco, Vaati, Garvedoir, Ariel, Medusa
Ice Climbers: Popo, Nana
Falco: Falco, Techo, Lance
Marth, Marth, Valentina, Rose
Gaondorf; Ganondorf, Black Shadow, Crunch
Game and Watch: G&W, Pacman
Pit: Pit, Grace, Scyther, Palutena, Rouge
Meta Knight: MK, Bonzer, Patamon
Wario: Wario, Banjo
Ike: Ike, Leon, Takamaru, Gabumon, Roy, Chrom
Pokemon Trainer: Charizard (since PT, Ivysaur, and Squirtle are released :( )
Diddy: Diddy, Sandslash, Dixie, Buizel
Lucas: Lucas, Ricky
King Dedede: DDD, K Rool, Wynter
Olimar: Olimar, SPRX-77, Gia
Lucario: Lucario, Mewtwo, Gengar
Snake: Snake, Gibson, Pounce
ROB: ROB, Paige
Sonic: Sonic, Shadow, Snip, Javier, Espio
Toon Link: Tink, Toad, Gatomon, Bloom, Weavile
Wolf: Wolf, Rusty, Nidorina, Zangoose



Call up roster (so far):

Marshall (when he is announced as a fighter in Smash)
Ghirahim (possibly returning in the future)
Impa (possible)
Ray MK (possibly returning)
Midna (possibly returning)
Dark Samus (deconfirmed, but can play as the black/brown Samus attire, possibly returning)
Silver the Hedgehog (deconfirmed for the most part, but has a Sonic alt attire of him)



So far, here's my little Pay-Per-View matches I have for Sunday night called Electric Glory:

Pellet vs Sonic the Hedgehog for the SSB World Championship
Javier and Maximus vs Wolf O' Donnell and Solid Snake for the SSB World Tag Team Championship
Nova vs Coco vs Wii Fit Trainer vs Valentina - Fatal 4 Way for the SSB Women's Championship
Banjo and Wynter vs Shadow the Hedgehog and Rouge the Bat for the SSB Mixed Tag Team Championship
Knuckles vs TBA for the SSB Xtreme Championship
Weavile (w/Gengar) vs Chrom for the SSB European Championship
Takamaru vs Olimar vs Ness - 3 Way Dance for the SSB Japan Championship
Wario (w/Waluigi) vs Toad (w/Yoshi)
Mario vs Bowser - Bombs Away Match (Bob-Ombs only)
Gia and Paige vs Snip and Pounce - non title match





...thoughts? I'm super weird as **** I know
There's no Tetra.....
 
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So I am bringing this over here to reply to since the unpopular opinions thread is being more strict about replying to someone's post now.

I don't know if this counts as an unpopular opinion, but I didn't want to make a thread about it since it's probably already been discussed.

But I am already scared about the balance of this game.

Take Diddy Kong for example. He can still throw 2 bananas, judging by the banana item it won't disappear after you slip, and he can most likely still grab after tripping opponent. This sounds like Brawl all over again.
Diddy actually isn't a problem in Brawl, at all. If you know what you are doing. You can catch his Bananas and throw them back at them, and even set up infinities with them against him. They are actually very fair when you know how to catch them in midair, pick them up, and use them against him. Diddy is actually one of the better built and fairer characters when you stop and think about it.

I don't know how campy Olimar is in this game, I've barely seen anyone play him (except in the Invitational where I saw that pretty good Olimar rise almost effortlessly until he was eliminated by a popularity vote in favor of ZeRo)
That would have been AMSA who is a really good player. He got Yoshi to 9th spot for Melee for Apex 2014. And he just played very smartly and how he should have in a FFA. But I can guarntee you now, Olimar is going to suck at camping compared to his Brawl incarnation due to having 3 less Pikmin and with only 3 Pikmin they are a lot more valuable and you won't want to throw them like you wanted to in Brawl.

I know it's still an early build, but I can't help being concerned about the balance. Heck, Samus doesn't look nearly as OP as Sakurai made her out to be. In fact she looks kinda same-ish, except faster fall speed, like everyone else.
I agree with your concerns about balance, I just disagree with your reasoning for your concerns. The reasoned I am concerned is because this is Sakurai we are talking about and he only has a 12 man team working on balancing this game. That's better then just himself for Melee and a 4 man team for Brawl, but it is still very very low for a balancing team imo.
 

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I hate how cgi is the standard for cartoons and its cheaper, but what happened to good old-fashioned hand drawn cartoons, it just looks better and allows unique art styles, but i guess thats just my preference
 

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I hate how cgi is the standard for cartoons and its cheaper, but what happened to good old-fashioned hand drawn cartoons, it just looks better and allows unique art styles, but i guess thats just my preference
There's this anime movie released within recent memory (2 years ago?) that was meant to be released something like 9 years ago, but was delayed for "7 hand drawn years" as the entirety of the 2 hour? film was hand drawn.

Red something?
Either way, fantastic film.
Yes CGI sucks.
It isn't that bad, but Japan are really really behind in using it, so it looks horrendous when they mixmatch/crop CGI into otherwise "2D" scenes. Icky.
American/French CGI is fine, but they pretend like it takes the most effort or anything of the like. It looks great, but people shouldn't believe its special when you compare to "7 hand drawn years".

Google searching "7 hand drawn years" made my day
Too smart google, too smart.
Also it came out 4 years ago now apparently... ****.... time flies....
 
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I hate how cgi is the standard for cartoons and its cheaper, but what happened to good old-fashioned hand drawn cartoons, it just looks better and allows unique art styles, but i guess thats just my preference
Honestly, as long as it captures what made Courage good, then I don't mind the change.
 

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PLEASE DO NOT CENSOR DODGE

- The Mod Squad

EDIT: I apologize if anyone was offended. I didn't realize that the picture had a watermark with a very offensive word on it.
Anyway, here's a censored version.
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I hate how cgi is the standard for cartoons and its cheaper, but what happened to good old-fashioned hand drawn cartoons, it just looks better and allows unique art styles, but i guess thats just my preference
This

CGI is like a hinderance for me to watch something. The only people that do it a justice are pixar and prevalent video game companies. Jimmy Newtron did it alright I guess. Maybe I'm nostalgia blind.
 

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Sooo... whether this makes it to a full tv series like the new PPG is going to be in 2016 is yet to be seen. But if it is I will throw up. Whether that means its good or bad depends on how you interpret it. http://couragefan09.tumblr.com/post/84200039784/preview-of-the-courage-the-cowardly-dog-short-get
I really hope it brings back Courage. I wont even care if it's CG if the show is still great.

This

CGI is like a hinderance for me to watch something. The only people that do it a justice are pixar and prevalent video game companies. Jimmy Newtron did it alright I guess. Maybe I'm nostalgia blind.
Then you go back and look at Jimmy Neutron and realize it's extremely ugly. lol (Childhood memories were crushed when i saw people posting screens from that show here. lol)
 
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All i remember from Nickelodeon is Hey Arnold, Danny Phantom, Jimmy Neutron, Invader Zim, My Life As A Teenage Robot, Avatar, Invader Zim, Rugratz, Invader Zim, Spongebob, Invader Zim, Kablam form some reason, and Invader Zim.
 
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I generally prefer traditional animation, but CGI works sometimes.

I watched all three Jimmy Timmy Power Hours. :|
 
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