Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[SoupCanMafia]

Hmm... I know I may have seen a Codex Conversation and a Palutena's Guidance about this already, but if I may ask, who would talk about Shantae for the Codex if it was limited to Otacon, Colonel, or Mei Ling for the former and Palutena, Viridia, Dark Pit, or Pit for the latter?

 

[AngrySun88]

I see that WayForward made a couple more generic "we have nothing to announce at this time" posts on Twitter today while continuing to ignore any posts about Smash. It's obvious at this point that they're under an NDA and refuse to even acknowledge the Smash posts.

 

[A1Again]

As much as I like Shantae, Rottytops had me the very second I saw her in Risky's Revenge. And her theme was awesome!

EDIT: You were all talking about Assist Trophies and it has to be either Rotty or Risky. I could see Squid Baron as a stage hazard, lol.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

As much as I like Shantae, Rottytops had me the very second I saw her in Risky's Revenge. And her theme was awesome!

She is a very fun character, and would make for a very fun assist trophy. I also like the Rottytops palette swap Wayforward created for Shantae.

 

[Jave]

Rotty is my #1 pick for a Shantae Assist Trophy. Risky will likely be a stage hazard.

 

[meleebrawler]

As much as I like Shantae, Rottytops had me the very second I saw her in Risky's Revenge. And her theme was awesome!

EDIT: You were all talking about Assist Trophies and it has to be either Rotty or Risky. I could see Squid Baron as a stage hazard, lol.

Better yet, another team-up. This time with DJ Octavio.

 

[DarkShadowRage]

She is a very fun character, and would make for a very fun assist trophy. I also like the Rottytops alt Wayforward created for Shantae.

Rotty is amazing

 

[meleebrawler]

What strikes me the most about Rottytops is how well thought out her character is. A victim of prejudice, which forces her and her siblings to lie and deceive their way through undeath... which only further fuels the prejudice, and so on and so forth with the vicious cycle. It's never shown directly for the most part, but it is implied. She takes an instant liking to the kind, brave and open-hearted Shantae, but her hardwired survival instinct of dishonesty makes it difficult for her to form any meaningful attachment, not helped when Shantae, naturally, is upset by her betrayal. It's only when she discovers Rottytop's true feelings in the Village of Lost Souls and then assures Rottytops that their friendship is genuine that Rotty feels she really does have a chance to turn a new leaf.

Half-Genie Hero then shows her making genuine attempts to help and please Shantae, with her blunders being more honest mistakes then more attempts at manipulation. And during Friends To The End she not only gets a chance to return the favour of true thought-probing by revealing Shantae's hidden knowledge of her human form, but also learn to appreciate her other friends. Sky in particular, going from the person she mutually hates the most behind Risky, to putting in her own words that she considers her to be a great leader.

 

[EarlTamm]

Honestly, Rotty is gonna make a minor appearance in some form other than a trophy. She's just to popular not to. And you know, how many zombie's have really appeared in Smash Bros? I guess the Redeads count, but I am talking classic zombies.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

What strikes me the most about Rottytops is how well thought out her character is. A victim of prejudice, which forces her and her siblings to lie and deceive their way through undeath... which only further fuels the prejudice, and so on and so forth with the vicious cycle. It's never shown directly for the most part, but it is implied. She takes an instant liking to the kind, brave and open-hearted Shantae, but her hardwired survival instinct of dishonesty makes it difficult for her to form any meaningful attachment, not helped when Shantae, naturally, is upset by her betrayal. It's only when she discovers Rottytop's true feelings in the Village of Lost Souls and then assures Rottytops that their friendship is genuine that Rotty feels she really does have a chance to turn a new leaf.

Half-Genie Hero then shows her making genuine attempts to help and please Shantae, with her blunders being more honest mistakes then more attempts at manipulation. And during Friends To The End she not only gets a chance to return the favour of true thought-probing by revealing Shantae's hidden knowledge of her human form, but also learn to appreciate her other friends. Sky in particular, she puts in her own words that she considers her to be a great leader.

since when did shantae characters have such in-depth backstorys (besides shantae herself)

 

[DarkShadowRage]

What strikes me the most about Rottytops is how well thought out her character is. A victim of prejudice, which forces her and her siblings to lie and deceive their way through undeath... which only further fuels the prejudice, and so on and so forth with the vicious cycle. It's never shown directly for the most part, but it is implied. She takes an instant liking to the kind, brave and open-hearted Shantae, but her hardwired survival instinct of dishonesty makes it difficult for her to form any meaningful attachment, not helped when Shantae, naturally, is upset by her betrayal. It's only when she discovers Rottytop's true feelings in the Village of Lost Souls and then assures Rottytops that their friendship is genuine that Rotty feels she really does have a chance to turn a new leaf.

Half-Genie Hero then shows her making genuine attempts to help and please Shantae, with her blunders being more honest mistakes then more attempts at manipulation. And during Friends To The End she not only gets a chance to return the favour of true thought-probing by revealing Shantae's hidden knowledge of her human form, but also learn to appreciate her other friends. Sky in particular, she puts in her own words that she considers her to be a great leader.

This makes me excited to play Half-Genie hero which I will do after i finish my run of super metroid

 

[meleebrawler]

since when did shantae characters have such in-depth backstorys

Since Pirate's Curse. Risky Boots is not far behind, having lived through the Pirate Master's age and seen Shantae's mother as a result.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Since Pirate's Curse. Risky Boots is not far behind, having lived through the Pirate Master's age and seen Shantae's mother as a result.

That is very true.

 

[Swade]

What strikes me the most about Rottytops is how well thought out her character is. A victim of prejudice, which forces her and her siblings to lie and deceive their way through undeath... which only further fuels the prejudice, and so on and so forth with the vicious cycle. It's never shown directly for the most part, but it is implied. She takes an instant liking to the kind, brave and open-hearted Shantae, but her hardwired survival instinct of dishonesty makes it difficult for her to form any meaningful attachment, not helped when Shantae, naturally, is upset by her betrayal. It's only when she discovers Rottytop's true feelings in the Village of Lost Souls and then assures Rottytops that their friendship is genuine that Rotty feels she really does have a chance to turn a new leaf.

Half-Genie Hero then shows her making genuine attempts to help and please Shantae, with her blunders being more honest mistakes then more attempts at manipulation. And during Friends To The End she not only gets a chance to return the favour of true thought-probing by revealing Shantae's hidden knowledge of her human form, but also learn to appreciate her other friends. Sky in particular, going from the person she mutually hates the most behind Risky, to putting in her own words that she considers her to be a great leader.

Wow, this got deep real quick.

 

[Jave]

What would be pretty amazing is Rottytops appearing in the Shantae reveal trailer and zombyfing someone by biting them. It would continue the trend of a character dying on every trailer.

 

[SoupCanMafia]

What would be pretty amazing is Rottytops appearing in the Shantae reveal trailer and zombyfing someone by biting them. It would continue the trend of a character dying on every trailer.

Maybe even a little giggle fest that happens. Like "Rotty! Don't just go around, zombifying random people you never met before!"
then boom, Rotty's the assist trophy.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

What would be pretty amazing is Rottytops appearing in the Shantae reveal trailer and zombyfing someone by biting them. It would continue the trend of a character dying on every trailer.

But, who would she zombify?

 

[SoupCanMafia]

Okay, if I need to be serious here, Tinkerbats would make for either good assist trophies or even enemy characters if the so-called "Spirits" Mode is a full-fledged Adventure Mode.

 

[DarkShadowRage]

But, who would she zombify?

I've always advocated for peach to get murdered by Sephiroth, but rotty could eat peach.

 

[Wademan94]

My main concern with Rotty as an assist is that I'm not sure how they would make her actions different from the other assists/Pokémon. She could attack with her leg, but a lot of assists just run around the stage doing close range attacks like that and throwing her head around seems like it'd have the same effect as Eevee's move. Her head could latch onto opponents to bite and damage them, but Metroid and Klaptrap already do that.

Nah.

Give him a Curly Joe-like voice from "The Three Stooges" and tell me that doesn't fit him perfectly. xD

Oh geez, you do not want to start discussing potential voices for these characters with me, I’ve been working on a dream voice cast on the Shantae series for a while now and I’d love to share my ideas if I wasn’t afraid of going off topic here.

 

[perfectchaos83]

But, who would she zombify?

Wario

 

[Captain Hazama]

Wario

I think she would complain about him farting or smell like garlic too much to zombified him.

 

[perfectchaos83]

I think she would complain about him farting or smell like garlic too much to zombified him.

Just said it cause it was a Wario Land Reference. XD

 

[TheRandomCities4]

If they're gonna end up killing all the Mario "bros", I could totally see Wario getting blasted by one of Risky's cannons. Maybe he tries to plunder her treasure on her ship or something during a hypothetical Shantae reveal cinematic? Would be funny (and coincidental because we've seen Mario die, then Luigi in what could become some sort of "order" if you will).

There's just a lot of common themes with Wario (treasure hunter, dealt with a few pirates in his "hay day", etc.) and Shantae/Risky Boots that I could see him being used somehow as part of Shantae's reveal trailer.

 

[SoupCanMafia]

Just said it cause it was a Wario Land Reference. XD

...you brilliant bugger you!
For reference, Wario turns into a zombie whenever a zombie touches him
also inb4 captain syrup is revealed to be a boss character duo with risky

 

[Wademan94]

If they're gonna end up killing all the Mario "bros", I could totally see Wario getting blasted by one of Risky's cannons. Maybe he tries to plunder her treasure on her ship or something during a hypothetical Shantae reveal cinematic? Would be funny (and coincidental because we've seen Mario die, then Luigi in what could become some sort of "order" if you will).

There's just a lot of common themes with Wario (treasure hunter, dealt with a few pirates in his "hay day", etc.) and Shantae/Risky Boots that I could see him being used somehow as part of Shantae's reveal trailer.

Not exactly related to how he’d get axed off, but I could see Wario getting his hands on a magic lamp and while rubbing it and failing to get a genie to pop out, Shantae would appear from behind him and knock him away (either with her hair whip or elephant dash) and uses her elephant form to stomp on the lamp much to Wario’s dismay, and he proceeds to battle her, maybe Risky could blast him with a cannon to take on Shantae herself as a boss?

 

[Shadow Novus]

I've always advocated for peach to get murdered by Sephiroth, but rotty could eat peach.

That's just mean

I love it

 

[Shadowknight1]

She is a very fun character, and would make for a very fun assist trophy. I also like the Rottytops alt Wayforward created for Shantae.

If not a full alt costume, I do expect that one of Shantae's color swaps would reference Rotty, while another would reference Sky, one for Risky, one for Nega Shantae, that kinda thing.

 

[SoupCanMafia]

Okay, I just had the absolute stupidest idea ever. Remember how Wario basically used his Wario Waft in the Brawl Trailer? What if, during this theoretical Shantae trailer, just after she whipped him into submission, he tries that again, complete with the holy light of death glowing from his butt. Shantae braces for it... but Wario gets jettisoned away by Risky's cannonball. What happens next is that while she looks at her arch-enemy with shock, he just explodes in midair, still doing the classic "nuclear" cloud.

 

[smashkirby]

If no one minds me asking, would Sky and Bolo be considered as having 'deep backstories' (if they have anything of the sort at all?)

Oh geez, you do not want to start discussing potential voices for these characters with me, I’ve been working on a dream voice cast on the Shantae series for a while now and I’d love to share my ideas if I wasn’t afraid of going off topic here.

I'd like to hear your ideas!

 

[Dyllybirdy]

If no one minds me asking, would Sky and Bolo be considered as having 'deep backstories' (if they have anything of the sort at all?)



I'd like to hear your ideas!

Sky and Bolo haven't really changed since the first game. They have barely gotten any character development at all.

 

[Thermithral]

Alright, I will be honest. I have no idea who Shantae is.

I know she has existed for a long time, and has a lot of games, but until speculation about this character coming in Smash caught my attention I had never heard of this character. Her design looks interesting, and I like platformers, so I want to check out this franchise and maybe learn a bit more about the character which has gained so much attention recently.

There is a Shantae game on the Switch eshop right now, is that a good place to start?

 

[SoupCanMafia]

Alright, I will be honest. I have no idea who Shantae is.

I know she has existed for a long time, and has a lot of games, but until speculation about this character coming in Smash caught my attention I had never heard of this character. Her design looks interesting, and I like platformers, so I want to check out this franchise and maybe learn a bit more about the character which has gained so much attention recently.

There is a Shantae game on the Switch eshop right now, is that a good place to start?

Pirate's Curse is one of the best Shantae platformers right now. You can also get three of the four games on PC, the only one missing is Shantae on GBC, which can be bought on the 3DS Shop instead.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Alright, I will be honest. I have no idea who Shantae is.

I know she has existed for a long time, and has a lot of games, but until speculation about this character coming in Smash caught my attention I had never heard of this character. Her design looks interesting, and I like platformers, so I want to check out this franchise and maybe learn a bit more about the character which has gained so much attention recently.

There is a Shantae game on the Switch eshop right now, is that a good place to start?

There are two Shantae games on the Switch eShop, and both of them are great points of entry into the series.

 

[Teeb147]

Just passing by, wishin' all shantae supporters a good time, and for the days til shantae's reveal (or not) to be flavourful :D
gnight.

 

[Sleepy_Icarus]

Alright, I will be honest. I have no idea who Shantae is.

I know she has existed for a long time, and has a lot of games, but until speculation about this character coming in Smash caught my attention I had never heard of this character. Her design looks interesting, and I like platformers, so I want to check out this franchise and maybe learn a bit more about the character which has gained so much attention recently.

There is a Shantae game on the Switch eshop right now, is that a good place to start?

There's Pirate's Curse and Half-Genie Hero (Ultimate Edition with all the DLC included). Half-Genie Hero is really more bang for your buck with how much content there is, but for as much as I played it, I still like Pirate's Curse more. Gameplay is more metroidvania-like, and I was more fond of the level design compared to HGH. The only thing is that it's not traditional Shantae gameplay, because there aren't any transformation dances, so I can't say it's the best place to get familiar to the Shantae formula. I'd still go Pirate's Curse, regardless. But that's like, my opinion.

 

[Thermithral]

There's Pirate's Curse and Half-Genie Hero (Ultimate Edition with all the DLC included). Half-Genie Hero is really more bang for your buck with how much content there is, but for as much as I played it, I still like Pirate's Curse more. Gameplay is more metroidvania-like, and I was more fond of the level design compared to HGH. The only thing is that it's not traditional Shantae gameplay, because there aren't any transformation dances, so I can't say it's the best place to get familiar to the Shantae formula. I'd still go Pirate's Curse, regardless. But that's like, my opinion.

Pirate's Curse is one of the best Shantae platformers right now. You can also get three of the four games on PC, the only one missing is Shantae on GBC, which can be bought on the 3DS Shop instead.

There are two Shantae games on the Switch eShop, but both of them are great points of entry into the series.

Thank you for the advice! Honestly I was originally going to just by the Ultimate Edition, but the word, metroidvania, makes me happy, so I bought the other one too.

I guess it is a good thing I archived some games on my Switch earlier.

 

[PichuMain]

Alright, I will be honest. I have no idea who Shantae is.

I know she has existed for a long time, and has a lot of games, but until speculation about this character coming in Smash caught my attention I had never heard of this character. Her design looks interesting, and I like platformers, so I want to check out this franchise and maybe learn a bit more about the character which has gained so much attention recently.

There is a Shantae game on the Switch eshop right now, is that a good place to start?

Welcome! I'd say Pirates Curse is a good place to start. You'll have the "wtf am I suppose to do next" a bit in the beginning, but you'll get the hang of it.

Hope you love and support Shantae for Smash if you ever come to love this character!

 

[Wademan94]

Thank you for the advice! Honestly I was originally going to just by the Ultimate Edition, but the word, metroidvania, makes me happy, so I bought the other one too.

I guess it is a good thing I archived some games on my Switch earlier.

You can skip the first game but I’d recommend at least watching a playthrough of Risky’s Revenge to understand the story. That one is arguably the shortest, though i recall it being pretty inexpensive on the 3DS eShop or IOS if you have either and want to play through it yourself.

I'd like to hear your ideas!

I’d love to discuss them, should I talk just with you over conversation or am I alright to share on them here? I just don’t want to get berated for going off topic.

 

[Parallel_Falchion]

Thermithral I find Pirate's Curse to be the best Shantae game, but that's actually one of the reasons I would not recommend it as your first Shantae game. If it's between that and 1/2 Genie Hero first, go with the latter. Pirate's Curse is non-traditional because it doesn't have Shantae's trademark transformations.