Roy and Mewtwo to be in US/PAL version of brawl/DL for japan-PROVEN FAKE

[papagenos]

no proof is not a good reason it's fake!!!

it's a reason we don't know if it's true or not but "no proof does not = fake" that's the exact attitude that spams these threads until we get real information.

innocent until proven guilty

possible until proven false

 

[Rakath]

What? Of course we lie, but I have no reason to lie about this. CB's source could simply enjoy messing with people. I'm not sure if you remember a few months ago, but it's apparent that people like to mess with other people by creating false info and putting it on the internet.

You could enjoy messing with people too. So you must be lying!

I remember all the False Prophets and the Fake Dojo, they were interesting reads, and would of been cool if real. Didn't put much in the way of stock about what they said as being provable fact, but was still fun anyway.

Its an interesting topic to discuss and think on, shunning it outright because an idea could be a lie... well, it means I should just discount you outright. ^_^

 

[papagenos]

HE DID HAVE BRAWL INFO!!!

he knew about advanced wars sticker content in brawl.

 

[specialsauce]

How about common sense? Adding two characters to the game would require extra coding. Not to mention the SSE would have to be changed accordingly to accommodate the characters. And if it were true, why, OH WHY, would we get them in the game right off and Japan gets them as downloadable? That makes NO SENSE.

who says they have to be includdded in SSE and sure this is a rumor but to just discredit it is dumb. remeber the 35 character roster every one thought was fake. people were like it cant be real why would R.O.B be in the game he cant fight. and guess what happend 35 character roster. well just have to wait and see. Things dont have to make sense for them to happen.

 

[Aaryk]

honestly the guy the rumor is coming from has NOTHING to gain.

he has credibility to lose.

he has had inside brawl info befor.

it's like honestly if this is true or not this is not just some fabricated rumor by some fake prophet looking for attention, there are no more FAKE prophets, there is no reason to fake stuff anymore.

it's obvious this guy isn't just making stuff up he's had info befor he probably has new info now.

i'm not saying thsi is TRUE i'm just saying it's obvious he's not just flat out lying he's telling us this because he's heard about it from somewhere, and since he's heard CORRECT INFORMATION befor it's likely he's getting this info from the same source and therefore it's likely it's correct again.

but thats the beauty of the internet; credibility isn't an issue. They lie to mess with people, and if they get owned because the info isn't true, what's there to lose? They simply create a new account and start over. The purpose for them to lie is to dupe gullible people, seemingly people like you who think they have no reason to make stuff up.

 

[MookieRah]

...And what? Starmen.net NEVER said Ness was out. Are you an idiot? They said no such thing.

They said Ness was out and replaced by Lucas. That is where everyone began their campaigns of believing that Ness wasn't in the game. Everyone believed that he was out because of that one rumor.

 

[comboking]

well he can fight so does that make this rumor false

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

He also knew about tons of Advance Wars stuff to the bone, perfectly on spot. I know who Tfox is, he's often talked about in Advance Wars communities and whatnot and is known for posting accurate info.

Ignore MookieRah, if he thinks that Starmen.net said that Ness was out and replaced by Lucas then he shouldn't even be considered to be a reliable person to talk to.

They said Ness was out and replaced by Lucas. That is where everyone began their campaigns of believing that Ness wasn't in the game. Everyone believed that he was out because of that one rumor.

Christ. NO THEY DIDN'T.

The only thing they said was that Lucas seemed to be the only main Mother character in Brawl because he was a starter, however they NEVER said Ness was out. Look back and tell me they did.

Here's a link.

 

[Nuvia]

Don't get your hopes up for Geno or Ridley. The only possible DLC content is the characters that have already been coded in the game. Unless there's a system where they can rewrite the game's data drastically, it won't work other than the seven characters in the game's data.

But why couldn't Ridley be playable? He's already a boss. He has a model, sound effects and everything. And doesn't action replay allow people to play with bosses like Master Hand?

See, my point is you can't give two characters the special treatment.

 

[papagenos]

You could enjoy messing with people too. So you must be lying!

I remember all the False Prophets and the Fake Dojo, they were interesting reads, and would of been cool if real. Didn't put much in the way of stock about what they said as being provable fact, but was still fun anyway.

Its an interesting topic to discuss and think on, shunning it outright because an idea could be a lie... well, it means I should just discount you outright. ^_^

EXACTLY!

people need to stop saying it's fake because there's no proof.

that's why its a rumor and not a fact.

 

[espio87]

And if it were true, why, OH WHY, would we get them in the game right off and Japan gets them as downloadable? That makes NO SENSE.

what if the japanese version was rushed? did you ever think that?. and yes, there's coding of Mewtwo and Roy inside the game appart from their victory themes, but we don't know what that coding is, but exists a possibility that the coding was made for the Japan version to support Mewtwo and Roy as DLC. I'm not saying it does, but it's still plausible.

 

[MewDorf]

Going off what we know, its hard to tell. Why don't we just wait and see. Whatever happened to just finding out when the game comes out.

 

[Nuvia]

no proof is not a good reason it's fake!!!

it's a reason we don't know if it's true or not but "no proof does not = fake" that's the exact attitude that spams these threads until we get real information.

innocent until proven guilty

possible until proven false

Hm, if I told you I could fly even without showing you proof, does that mean I might be telling the truth?

 

[comboking]

and if this is not true could we HexEdit from what we got about Roy couldn't we

 

[SETHMASTEROFPKMN]

Ah, sounds good. I just hope that their FS's aren't copies of Marth's and Lucario's. =/

Edit: Looking at the post above mine, what if Lucario and Marth are exclusive to Japan, but Mewtwo and Roy are exclusive to the U.S. version? I guess if the two that are missing will end up being DLC, it's okay, but… Just throwing that out there.

about your edit... they would NEVER do that. Do you have any idea about how ticked everyone in the US/PAL would be if that happened?

 

[papagenos]

@if you said you could fly does that mean it's true.

no. it wouldn't make it true but it wouldn't make it false either.

learn logic please.

 

[Rakath]

But why couldn't Ridley be playable? He's already a boss. He has a model, sound effects and everything. And doesn't action replay allow people to play with bosses like Master Hand?

See, my point is you can't give two characters the special treatment.

Technically he's giving 6-7 characters special treatment (Toon Zelda/Sheik is probably a single spot transformation character), not two. But it depends on how much faith you put in DLC.

Its possible the DLC is just filling the gaps in the character code already there, if that's the case only those 7 have a shot, regardless of Ridley in as a boss. If the DLC can add full movesets onto a pre-existing model: The more standard AT and Pokeballs are fair game now, possibly Ridley and Taboo. If they can completely from scratch cast... Geno has a shot now, as do Micaiah, Krystal, and Takamaru.

We don't know one way or another...

 

[cynar]

This guy has no credibility at all. This is ridiculous that people are still doing this fake rumour stuff.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

But why couldn't Ridley be playable? He's already a boss. He has a model, sound effects and everything. And doesn't action replay allow people to play with bosses like Master Hand?

See, my point is you can't give two characters the special treatment.

Well you do have a point there. Ridley does have a model in Brawl and existing data, so its possible.

Not so much with Geno, though.

This guy has no credibility at all. This is ridiculous that people are still doing this fake rumour stuff.

For Christ's sake...

 

[comboking]

about your edit... they would NEVER do that. Do you have any idea about how ticked everyone in the US/PAL would be if that happened?

Hm, if I told you I could fly even without showing you proof, does that mean I might be telling the truth?

Good point

 

[papagenos]

how does he have NO credibility!!??

he has leaked stuff correctly befor!

he has leaked brawl info correctly befor!

all the people on here saying he isn't credible are the ones with no credibility and no reason for me to beleive you.

 

[Nuvia]

@if you said you could fly does that mean it's true.

no. it wouldn't make it true but it wouldn't make it false either.

learn logic please.

Tsk, tsk.

Anyway, this argument is pointless as, like I said, there is no proof. The only way to know the validity of this claim is to wait. I just hope none of you get your hopes up.

 

[MookieRah]

You could enjoy messing with people too. So you must be lying!

Wow... you are stretching things very very far if you think that I'm messing with people on this. Seriously... if you are going to be that illogical I'm just not going to respond to anything else you say...

I've seen soooo many people get suckered in by random rumors on this site and they almost always get disappointed. It's sad to see people so gullible, especially considering the kind of people in this world. People need to work on their BS radars as early in life as they can, because if they don't they will get screwed over.

@Luke Groundwalker
My bad, you are right. That said, a lot of people around here misinterpreted their info and believed in it as it was true. According to what is being said here it's a rumor that some guy heard from some guy who heard from some other guy who's had good info before. It's hard to validate heresay, and there are tons of opportunities for misinterpretation along the way.

Also... how many times has this guy been wrong about info? Has anyone tried to look into everything this guy said? I bet you'd be hard pressed to find much info on this "source" of information.

People are being way to gullible.

 

[specialsauce]

ive been sitting waiting wishing you believe in superstition then maybe youll see the signs-jack johnson hahaha

 

[papagenos]

tsk tsk..?

no honestly you don't know logic. logically if you say you can do something and don't prov it to me then guess what logically i have no idea either way.

however thsi guy is not just saying roy and mewtwo are in brawl. thsi guy is saying roy and mewtwo are in brawl. what i've SEEN to prov this is that roy and mewtwo do indeed have information on the brawl disc.

if thsi guy said i have inside brawl info. and then showed me that YES HE HAS HAD INSIDE BRAWL INFO he had advanced wars sticker info.

then AGAIN he said i have inside brawl info mewtwo and roy are in brawl. LOGICALLY he is probably still telling the truth, but it can still go either way without proof.

learn logic, you sound dumb saying if you can't prov it it's false.

NO logic says if you can't prov it it can go either way.

logic says if past instances have been true it is likely to be again but cannot be for certain.

sheesh...

 

[Starscream]

Seems unlikely but after the 35 roster being 100% true, anything seems possible.

 

[comboking]

this thread rocks lets just fight more why don't we Just Kidding

 

[MookieRah]

NO logic says if you can't prov it it can go either way.

I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying it's highly unlikely. Judging from your posts you are thinking it's pretty likely that this is true, and I'm warning you and others that think highly of this rumor to not invest so much faith into it.

 

[Chi's Finest]

I don't believe this at all. How are people believing this?

 

[Your Hero]

Where would they fit in the roster though?

I like what this person said, although it's hard to believe that 2 characters that People outside of America wanted would be taken out for 2 different characters:

Edit: Looking at the post above mine, what if Lucario and Marth are exclusive to Japan, but Mewtwo and Roy are exclusive to the U.S. version? I guess if the two that are missing will end up being DLC, it's okay, but… Just throwing that out there.

 

[joeysmash]

guys chronobound is a great guy, he wouldn't say it at all if he didn't think there was a chance to be true. I am not getting my hopes up, but if it comes true, ill be happy.

All you others out there should do the same thing

 

[Nuvia]

no honestly you don't know logic.

learn logic, you sound dumb saying if you can't prov it it's false.

Please don't resort to personal insults. It makes you sound desperate.

 

[Norm]

well if they are being added to the NA version the thats pretty sweet as long as they don't replace people

 

[WolfCypher]

Even with that grain of salt, I don't know how to take this. I can see, if by some far shot, downloadable content is in this game, Roy & Mewtwo being in the game(s), but for some of the posters here suggesting that maybe Lucario and Marth will be taken out of the USA/EUR versions to include Mewtwo & Roy from the get-go...don't even joke like that.

Now, I don't know how downloadable content work, but shouldn't there have been some character data on Roy and Mewtwo somewhere hidden in Brawl (besides their victory music)? Like incomplete 3D sprites, in-game sound effects like grunts and yells of these characters, etc...So far the only thing we have to go by are their victory themes.

 

[comboking]

yah if they replace characters Im going to be mad

 

[Ricard_the_dragoon]

Where would they fit in the roster though?

I like what this person said, although it's hard to believe that 2 characters that People outside of America wanted would be taken out for 2 different characters:

He never said that anyone would be taken out, just chararcters added

 

[Micahc]

I seriously hope this is true, especially since this guy has credit.

 

[MookieRah]

yah if they replace characters Im going to be mad

Nobody said this. This isn't part of the rumor. There is no reason to believe this as it was just some dumb person speculating on a rumor. For some reason people have grasped onto this rumor of a rumor in this thread and it boggles my mind.

 

[ChronoBound]

Sakurai will be making his speech at the GDC on Friday from 10:30 A.M. to 11:30 A.M. PST. Ugh, looks like we will be having to wait an entire week.

 

[Tachita]

Why you guys don'y have a little faith, after the 35 roster rumor I believe any rumor, even if its really crazy, can be true if it comes from a somewhat reliable source.

And for people who say that he just revealed info on Advance Wars, well, nobody knows from where nyanyasa (?) or shadowXOR got their info?

They were normal smashboarders who had never revealed stuff, not like Markman or Reno that have had revealed stuff before, and they predicted things that sounded like nonesens nobody believed them, but they were right
So people, anything is possible!