Patch 1.05 Analysis

[FullMoon]

I'm just worried that they might have taken out Greninja's hitstun cancel with Shadow Sneak.

 

[mario123007]

Making a 1.0.5 patch changes thread next perhaps?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Making a 1.0.5 patch changes thread next perhaps?

I'll edit and use this thread for it.

I'm gonna work on ground rules later tonight.

 

[ParanoidDrone]

Palutena can still Lightweight with platforms, but Super Speed momentum is gone.

Super Speed Momentum? That's a new one to me. What is was it?

 

[Ffamran]

There's a Share button now if you go into Online mode. The description is: "Share you Mii Fighters, snapshots, and more via the Internet!".

 

[mario123007]

Don't know if you guys had already found this, you can now directly see the instruction manual by just touching the down main menu screen.

 

[Marcbri]

testing with 2 3DSs with my brother, one with 1.0.4 and one with 1.0.5. Tell us stuff we should check out.

So far I'm checking mostly knockback stuff and only found 1 difference. Sonic's bthrow is killing Mario in training at 140% in 1.0.4 and at 142% in 1.0.5. I've tested this over 15 times so I'm pretty sure the nerf is real although killing just 2% later seems a bit random.

Some stuff that has the same kill power include: Diddy's Fair and Uair, Yoshi's Uair, Ness Btrhow and Uair. If you got requests I can test for a while before I go to bed.

 

[Aunt Jemima]

@ ParanoidDrone

If you use a JC U-Smash during Super Speed, she keeps the momentum for her next action.

Also, Falco changes are placebo. I just tested them side by side.

 

[FlynnCL]

Falco's down air has less lag.

Every time a patch comes out, I hear this.

I don't see any difference to be honest.

 

[Macchiato]

testing with 2 3DSs with my brother, one with 1.0.4 and one with 1.0.5. Tell us stuff we should check out.

So far I'm checking mostly knockback stuff and only found 1 difference. Sonic's bthrow is killing Mario in training at 140% in 1.0.4 and at 142% in 1.0.5. I've tested this over 15 times so I'm pretty sure the nerf is real although killing just 2% later seems a bit random.

Some stuff that has the same kill power include: Diddy's Fair and Uair, Yoshi's Uair, Ness Btrhow and Uair. If you got requests I can test for a while before I go to bed.

Zelda love jumping
Zelda teleport canceling
Pally warp canceling

 

[EdreesesPieces]

Maybe Nintendo doesn't wanna overload their servers/resources or whatever they use, so they are doing 3DS patch and Wii U patch at seperate times. Wouldn't rule out a balance patch.

 

[/u/giggity-gooo]

Every time a patch comes out, I hear this.

I don't see any difference to be honest.

i am best falco player

i will have verdict in a second after this is done downloading

 

[PushDustIn]

I uploaded a bunch of pictures from the new update on my Twitter.

Mii Fighters can be uploaded and downloaded; however they do not unlock hats/outfits.

Replays can be picked and sorted by character and stages.

Pictures can be shared.

amiibos can be scanned in by pressing ZR on the New 3DS and then placing on the screen.

the amiibo menu is added to the Games and More.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think the Instruction Manual is new on the 3DS. It's at least updated to include information about the Share Menu and amiibos.

 

[mario123007]

Nothing that surprised: Even tips have mentioned amiibo!

 

[Ffamran]

Don't know if you guys had already found this, you can now directly see the instruction manual by just touching the down main menu screen.

Sorry, but YOU JUST GOT 'D!

Anyway, nobody seems to care about that since it's not "gameplay". I mentioned that and the share online function and meh, I guess.

Oh, and guess what else isn't new online? Scrubby players... Stupid Ness teabags the start of the match and every time he tossed me off of the stage, he teabagged. Well, Ganondorf stirred his cheerios.

 

[/u/giggity-gooo]

i am best falco player

i will have verdict in a second after this is done downloading

falco's blaster and dair are for sure faster

i've played 234 matches with falco on for glory, that's my source

 

[Marcbri]

Zelda love jumping
Zelda teleport canceling
Pally warp canceling

both edge cancels are still in (diddy and pit still have it as well).

I dunno what Zelda love jumping is :/

 

[Aunt Jemima]

@ ParanoidDrone

If you use a JC U-Smash during Super Speed, she keeps the momentum for her next action.

Also, Falco changes are placebo. I just tested them side by side.

They aren't real...

 

[Agent Emerald]

Can we see if Kirby actually got buffed this time?

 

[Macchiato]

both edge cancels are still in (diddy and pit still have it as well).

I dunno what Zelda love jumping is :/

After hit stun from being hit, immediately jump and Nayru's love at the same time

 

[mario123007]

Sorry, but YOU JUST GOT 'D!

Anyway, nobody seems to care about that since it's not "gameplay". I mentioned that and the share online function and meh, I guess.

Oh, and guess what else isn't new online? Scrubby players... Stupid Ness teabags the start of the match and every time he tossed me off of the stage, he teabagged. Well, Ganondorf stirred his cheerios.

I just had got updated so........
I'm trying to check if there are any changes to some characters.

 

[Soul.]

Every time a patch comes out, I hear this.

I don't see any difference to be honest.

Perhaps but it seems like it's faster on the ground now.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

both edge cancels are still in (diddy and pit still have it as well).

I dunno what Zelda love jumping is :/

People said Falco is faster on blaster and Dair, is it placebo or legit? I think it is placebo.

 

[Yonder]

HOO HAA is gone.

There's a new share icon Online.

 

[/u/giggity-gooo]

People said Falco is faster on blaster and Dair, is it placebo or legit? I think it is placebo.

ive played 234 matches as falco, its for sure faster

 

[Aunt Jemima]

People said Falco is faster on blaster and Dair, is it placebo or legit? I think it is placebo.

This is the third time I'm saying this - I already tested it. It's placebo.

 

[Soul.]

HOO HAA is gone.

There's a new share icon Online.

Are you sure? From what I have seen it still works.

 

[Marcbri]

After hit stun from being hit, immediately jump and Nayru's love at the same time

mh, Can't seem to do it in any of the 3DS, sorry. I rarely ever play Zelda and can't get the timing down.

 

[Kodystri]

HOO HAA is gone.

There's a new share icon Online.

You better not be lying.

 

[Ducksen]

Solo mode has been changed; Now it only starts you off with one bot instead of 2.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

What exactly is the super speed momentum glitch?

 

[Macchiato]

What exactly is the super speed momentum glitch?

When yew use super speed, If yew cancel it with a JC Usmash, the momentum would be stored and the next time yew jump would go super high. It doesn't work anymore

 

[TTTTTsd]

You better not be lying.

He is. Hoo Haa still works. @ Y Yonder get faster fingers. 3DS controls suck for it but it's there bro.

 

[BJN39]

Very energetic thread. o.o

I'm gonna look Into Zelda (as usual) and I'll report if anything is different. We of course can't be certain until we can get this data on the master core...

 

[TheHypnotoad]

ive played 234 matches as falco, its for sure faster

This is the third time I'm saying this - I already tested it. It's placebo.

We appear to have reached an impasse. Can we have some more people test this?

HOO HAA is gone.

There's a new share icon Online.

HOO HAH is definitely not gone.

 

[Gabriel - Jthor]

The game seems to be favoring up B when in the air, reducing SD's by the circle pad! Just tested mantaining the circle pad in the same position(diagonally up, favoring the side), and when in the ground the character does an side b and when in the air he does an up B!

 

[Ffamran]

People said Falco is faster on blaster and Dair, is it placebo or legit? I think it is placebo.

They're probably slower.

 

[Nu~]

Did anyone test pac-man?

 

[Marcbri]

Falco's laser is exactly the same. Dair is 90% the same but it's harder to test. Tested with both 3DS at 1/4 speed.

 

[Ulevo]

Did they fix the problem with C-Sticks halting momentum when C-Stick is set to Smash?