Patch 1.05 Analysis

[Macchiato]

I was supported amiibo to New Nintendo 3DS / New 3DS LL for.
If touch amiibo on the touch screen, you can become a "figure player (FP)", you will be appearing as a rival and partner.
※ If you already have a FP that are growing in "Super Smash Bros. for Wii U" is, I can accept any "Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS."
※ Customers Nintendo 3DS / 3DS LL in being played this software, you need to download the update data delivery plan after its release and peripheral devices of summer will be released in 2015. Please wait a while now.
I added the "shared" mode.
"Photo", "Replay", to post to a dedicated server "Mii Fighter" and can be shared with users around the world. It is also possible to locate and download the submitted data.
※ You can post is limited to the data that you have created yourself. Post data will be deleted from the server after 30 days.
"Photo", "Replay", you will be able to send the "Mii Fighter" to friend.
※ acknowledgment is done when it is connected from this software to the Internet.
※ You may take a long time to receive.
※ will be deleted from the server if it is not received within 30 days.
It is now possible to post to Miiverse the "Photo" from within the game.
※ It will be posted on a dedicated community "photo sharing room".
Other, so who can play comfortably the game was fixed some of the problems.
※ If you download the update data (Ver.1.0.5), and those who use the update data (Ver.1.0.4) previously you will not be able to play against local communication.
The replay data that you saved in updating data (Ver.1.0.4) previously you will not be able to play.
※ In order to perform the Internet play, the update data (Ver. 1.0.5) will be required.

List of changes
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2ve3m6/smash_3ds_patch_105_info_thus_far/

 

[Noa.]

I'm interested in whether anything of note actually changed.

 

[|RK|]

Quick, someone use Diddy's uair

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Oh boy here we go again.

@SamuraiPanda @Shaya @KuroganeHammer

edit: Is this only for the 3DS? In which case this might not be a balance patch.

 

[Macchiato]

Oh boy here we go again.

@SamuraiPanda @Shaya @KuroganeHammer

@KuroganeHammer wont be back for a while like maybe another week

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Is anything confirmed for the WiiU? Because if not then this isn't a balance patch.

 

[Ffamran]

Well, they introduced an instruction manual through the green sheet thing on the left hand side of the 3DS's bottom screen.

 

[Macchiato]

Is anything confirmed for the WiiU? Because if not then this isn't a balance patch.

Idk @ Lavani discovered this but replays are broken so

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

They would sync both version if it were...we can wait and see I suppose on that front.

Still with broken replays it's worth checking out at the very least.

 

[RoachCake]

http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/11692/p/430
Found this. May be a bit easier to read what is in the update without needing to know Japanese.

 

[Piford]

Well it doesn't mean balance changes, it could mean engine changes.

Also someone apparently confirmed that they fixed the Kirby bow stalling glitch.

 

[Lavani]

Quick, someone use Diddy's uair

dthrow and uair seem unchanged

Is anything confirmed for the WiiU? Because if not then this isn't a balance patch.

That's what I was thinking, but replays are broken so who knows

 

[Soul.]

Down throw uair still works.
Nintendo didn't give patch notes. It's 1.0.4 all over again.

 

[Ffamran]

Uh, I think Falco's Blaster might be faster. Either a placebo effect or time from not playing online, but it seems faster on the draw, holster, and laser travel. I might be seeing things though.

Edit: Does anyone have 2 3DS's they can use to confirm? I'm probably seeing things, but it looks faster.

 

[mario123007]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/axcj/update/index.html

What?! It's gonna made past replays unplayable?! Man! Hope there will be more updates that can made the past replays playable................probably not.

 

[Aunt Jemima]

Well it doesn't mean balance changes, it could mean engine changes.

Also someone apparently confirmed that they fixed the Kirby bow stalling glitch.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WHAT?!

WHY?

 

[FullMoon]

From what that was saying it's just adding amiibo compatibility for the 3DS. I did remember someone from Nintendo talking about a patch for that in a stream, alongside "bug fixes", so maybe those "bug fixes" are what broke replays.

 

[|RK|]

Well it doesn't mean balance changes, it could mean engine changes.

Also someone apparently confirmed that they fixed the Kirby bow stalling glitch.

NOOOOOoooooooowhatever.

 

[Macchiato]

@ Lavani can yew check Zeldas love jumping and teleport cancels and tunas teleport cancels

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

See..this makes me think this isn't a balance patch, if it was we would have seen.

Ver. 1.0.4 details (Released on November 18, 2014)

• Adjustments will be made to balance the game.
• Other adjustments will be made to make for a more pleasant gaming experience.

I don't see that in 1.0.5

 

[Aunt Jemima]

"In order to let you play the game more comfortably, we have also fixed some issues"

This may have just been bug fixes, not balance changes.

 

[Lavani]

Well it doesn't mean balance changes, it could mean engine changes.

Also someone apparently confirmed that they fixed the Kirby bow stalling glitch.

Oh thank God, I was so worried about this ~*~game breaking ability~*~

It probably is just bugfixes then.

 

[Macchiato]

They fixed glitches, possibly some ATs

 

[AfroThunderRule]

NVM this post. lol

 

[Ffamran]

From what that was saying it's just adding amiibo compatibility for the 3DS. I did remember someone from Nintendo talking about a patch for that in a stream, alongside "bug fixes", so maybe those "bug fixes" are what broke replays.

Oh ok, Falco's Blaster still sucks then.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Maybe they fixed Link's jab tricks? lol I doubt it.

 

[Macchiato]

We should still look at ATs

 

[Aunt Jemima]

Falco still sucks then.

Fixed.

Yeah, I'm doubting this is actual balance patch.

 

[Soul.]

Jump cancelled item tosses still work. Can confirm.

 

[ParanoidDrone]

Well it doesn't mean balance changes, it could mean engine changes.

Also someone apparently confirmed that they fixed the Kirby bow stalling glitch.

What about Palutena's Lightweight glitch?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Yeah just look at ATs or exploits for right now I would.

I doubt large changes were made to like 1.0.4 were, also if they made bug fixes, wouldn't the WiiU be updated as well?

 

[Ffamran]

Fixed.

Yeah, I'm doubting this is actual balance patch.

Says, the Kirby player.

Welp, this is probably just a false alarm that will cause Crashboards.

 

[Lavani]

Maybe they fixed Link's jab tricks? lol I doubt it.

well uh

diagonals are giving me ftilt even when crouching now instead of jab

so, maybe lol

 

[FullMoon]

I'm almost sure they took out Greninja's platform Shadow Sneak

Edit: Nevermind I just suck at pulling it off, still in.

 

[Soul.]

B-reversing and wavebouncing still work.
Moves that autocancel still autocancel.
Down throw combos with Mario and Luigi are left unchanged.

 

[mario123007]

I'm updating it right now....................

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

well uh

diagonals are giving me ftilt even when crouching now instead of jab

so, maybe lol

Really?

You sure it isn't just input error?

 

[Aunt Jemima]

Palutena can still Lightweight with platforms, but Super Speed momentum is gone.

 

[Lavani]

Really?

You sure it isn't just input error?

I never saw crouching ftilt before this patch, and I'm not getting crouching jab to come out no matter how much I try right now.

The jab itself is unchanged as far as I'm noticing so it can still be done manually, but no diagonal jabs I guess.

 

[Soul.]

Falco's down air has less lag. Blasters are faster.