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CrusherMania1592

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Okay, I'm not gonna cause an argument here, but I'm just gonna say it: WHY do people want Lucina cut other than her being a clone or not as popular as Robin?
 

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Okay, I'm not gonna cause an argument here, but I'm just gonna say it: WHY do people want Lucina cut other than her being a clone or not as popular as Robin?
I think the main reason is that a lot of people feel like Fire Emblem is overrepresented right now, and regardless of whether or not that's true, many people feel like they need to cut someone from the franchise for the roster to make sense, and since Lucina's a 1:1 Marth clone she's usually viewed as the most expendable of the FE bunch. I hope that explains it well enough.

And no, before anyone tries to put words into my mouth, I don't want to cut Lucina, she'd be low priority to keep, but I don't like cutting people period. I'd much rather add a bunch of characters for other franchises until FE isn't overrepped anymore.
 

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Okay, I'm not gonna cause an argument here, but I'm just gonna say it: WHY do people want Lucina cut other than her being a clone or not as popular as Robin?
My reasoning is for making Lucina as a Marth swap is the clone reason, but I think it suits what she did in the early events of Fire Emblem Awakening. I compensated her fans by giving her special costumes as any other character I planned on in my roster. I used to think of the "over-done" excuse as valid, but that excuse doesn't seem reason well in this case. The only complete cut (& the most consistant cut between all my roster variants) I made in my latest roster variant are the Miis and that's to make room for special costumes.

Zerp Zerp I like how you don't want to cut characters from playable positions. I don't think cutting characters willy-nilly is good idea.
 

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I like Lucina and I love Dark Pit (in fact, he's my favorite newcomer in Smash 4) but I also think that Sakurai is going to remove clones, like he did between Melee and Brawl (with the exception of Mewtwo) so I decided to follow this reasoning. Also to balance the series, I cut Lucina because I think Corrin would be more interesting than a complete clone of Marth.
 

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I like Lucina and I love Dark Pit (in fact, he's my favorite newcomer in Smash 4) but I also think that Sakurai is going to remove clones, like he did between Melee and Brawl (with the exception of Mewtwo) so I decided to follow this reasoning. Also to balance the series, I cut Lucina because I think Corrin would be more interesting than a complete clone of Marth.
To be quite fair though, Doc was a clone and removed in Brawl even though rumors had it he was part of the Forbidden 7 as well as being an unlockable surprising character for this game. Roy was a clone, got removed for Brawl same as Doc, and became DLC. Lucas who is a semi-clone, got cut for this game, only to came back as DLC

So it's possible they could bring back clones for the DLC in the future
 

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To be quite fair though, Doc was a clone and removed in Brawl even though rumors had it he was part of the Forbidden 7 as well as being an unlockable surprising character for this game. Roy was a clone, got removed for Brawl same as Doc, and became DLC. Lucas who is a semi-clone, got cut for this game, only to came back as DLC

So it's possible they could bring back clones for the DLC in the future
You're right, but if I had to remove someone, they would be Dark Pit and Lucina. Not because I hate clones, but because it's much likely to happen. Also, Lucas isn't a clone at all: he only shares two moves with Ness (up aerial and side smash) and he has three moves (PK Freeze, PK Thunder, PSI Magnet) that are a little similar to Ness'.
I'm not totally against Lucina, but, to be honest, she is the most likely character to be cut between Smash 4 and a possible Smash 5.
 

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If there's a next Smash, for some reason I feel Lucina is even a safer choice than Robin. According to a Japanese poll, she's more popular than Robin. She's in this unique position that in her game appearance, she at first tries to disguise herself as Marth, but as time passes, she develops as a character. This translates really well into Smash if she goes from a clone to an unique character.

Her appearances in Codename S.T.E.A.M. and Project X Zone 2 are filled with so many moveset material. A bow, lances, reclassing and moves learned/inherited from Chrom (like that spinning air attack)


 

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If there's a next Smash, for some reason I feel Lucina is even a safer choice than Robin. According to a Japanese poll, she's more popular than Robin. She's in this unique position that in her game appearance, she at first tries to disguise herself as Marth, but as time passes, she develops as a character. This translates really well into Smash if she goes from a clone to an unique character.

Her appearances in Codename S.T.E.A.M. and Project X Zone 2 are filled with so many moveset material. A bow, lances, reclassing and moves learned/inherited from Chrom (like that spinning air attack)


I wouldn't say safer, but about as safe. Unless Sakurai or whoever is in charge of the next Smash decides that a new MU should replace Robin.
 

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You're right, but if I had to remove someone, they would be Dark Pit and Lucina. Not because I hate clones, but because it's much likely to happen. Also, Lucas isn't a clone at all: he only shares two moves with Ness (up aerial and side smash) and he has three moves (PK Freeze, PK Thunder, PSI Magnet) that are a little similar to Ness'.
I'm not totally against Lucina, but, to be honest, she is the most likely character to be cut between Smash 4 and a possible Smash 5.
You might wanna reread it again: I said semi-clone :p
 

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You might wanna reread it again: I said semi-clone :p
Sorry, I had a mistake... However, Ness and Lucas are still quite different each other.
Also, Lucina may be more popular than Robin in Japan, but first of all, she may not be as popular as in Japan in the West and second, in Smash Robin is unarguably more interesting than Lucina: even if she gets a unique moveset, Robin has the tomes system, which is rather interesting. Again, I don't hate Lucina, in Fire Emblem I like her, but in Smash I feel her place should be filled by a new, fresher, character.
 

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Yet again, I got a roster update, thanks to the final DLC announcement. Gender swaps will return for the characters that use them with Pikachu gaining one here. Shiny Pokemon are palette swaps and will stay Shiny for Mega forms. Most of the roster will get at least two special costumes, a home series and a crossover costume with certain exceptions. I listed the crossover outfits and one newcomer is going to be a special case.

Returning Characters:
Everyone in Smash Wii U/3DS minus Miis
Wolf
Ice Climbers

Character swaps: (Roster member listed first, then swap.)
Mario - Dr. Mario
Bowser Jr. - The Koopalings
Marth - Lucina
Ike - Chrom
Olimar - Alph
Pit - Dark Pit

Newcomers:
King K. Rool (DK)
Isaac (Golden Sun)
Paper Mario (Mario)
Ridley (Metroid)
Bandanna Dee (Kirby)
Hades (Kid Icarus)
Sceptile (Pokemon)
Wonder Red (Wonderful 101)
Takemaru (Mysterious Murasame Castle)
Inkling (Splatoon) [both male and female]
Any Ray Custom Robo (Custom Robo)
Bartz Klauser (Final Fantasy) [creator bias]
Heihachi Mishima (Tekken)


Crossover costumes are listed roster holder first then inspired source (character/series). Character swaps get costumes too! These are fitted to the costume holder. The Miis were cut for the special costumes to the cast and to make room for newcomers.

Criticism is welcome. Feel free to ask questions about the roster or the special costumes.
 
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Roster update:

With the big amount of FE characters, I decided to axe another one from the realistic roster, and while initially intending to cut Corrin (Kamui), Roy got axed instead, as I felt he is more likely to get cut. Both Roy and Corrin remain in the bias roster, but only because I couldn't decide which one to remove.

Didn't add Bayonetta to either roster: I don't think she'll stay in next Smash, and I wouldn't personally keep this "ballot winner" either.


Also, decided to remove one third-party from bias roster: This ended up being Black Mage, as FF was the only one with two reps.

Realistic (66)









Bias (70)










Substitutes are placeholders for 7th Gen Pokemon (next to other Pokemon), new FE protagonist (next to other FE characters), second Xenoblade character (next to Shulk), Rhythm Heaven character (between Inkling and Miis), new third-party and Random button (both at the end).

Dr. Mario, Lucina and Dark Pit are now alts of Mario, Marth and Pit rather than separate characters.
 
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Being realistic...

Cut Characters: :4miibrawl::4miigun::4miisword::4robinm::4feroy::4lucina::4darkpit::4drmario::rosalina::4jigglypuff::4greninja::4bayonetta::4ganondorf:

Yeah... Come at me.

The rest of the Smash 4 cast returns as well as...

Returning characters: :wolf::popo:

Newcomers include...
  1. Inkling
  2. Issac
  3. Captain Toad
  4. Yarn Yoshi
  5. King K. Rool
  6. Rhythm Heaven Girl
  7. Impa
  8. Ganon
  9. Sceptile
  10. Bandanna Dee
  11. Tiki
  12. Sylux
  13. Elma
  14. Lip
  15. Big Third Party inclusion: Scorpion
:4samus: & :4zss: as well as :4zelda: & :4sheik: are now back together.
 
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Here's my current SSB5 wish list roster.

57 veterans
28 newcomers
85 characters total

Nintendo - 16
:4gaw::4littlemac::4duckhunt::popo::4rob::4falcon::4villager::4olimar::4wiifit::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute:
Inklings
Takamaru
Chibi-Robo
Chorus Kids
Mallo from Pushmo
Wandering Heroes from StreetPass Mii Plaza
Captain N

Third Party - 14
:4pacman::snake::4ryu::4megaman::4sonic::4cloud::4bayonetta::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute:
Simon Belmont
Banjo-Kazooie
Heihachi
Ryu Hayabusa
Rayman
Shantae
Shovel Knight

Mario - 10
:4mario::4luigi::4peach::4bowser::4yoshi::4wario::4bowserjr::rosalina::substitute::substitute:
Toad
Paper Mario

Pokemon - 8
:4pikachu::4charizard::4jigglypuff::4mewtwo::4lucario::4greninja::substitute::substitute:
Team Rocket (Meowth & Wobbuffet)
Gen 8 Pokemon

Zelda - 8
:4link::4zelda::4sheik::4ganondorf::4tlink::substitute::substitute::substitute:
Tetra
Wolf Link & Midna
Linkle

Fire Emblem - 5
:4marth::4myfriends::4robinm::4corrin::substitute:
New Fire Emblem protagonist

Donkey Kong - 4
:4dk::4diddy::substitute::substitute:
Dixie Kong
King K. Rool

Kirby - 4
:4kirby::4dedede::4metaknight::substitute:
Waddle Dee

Metroid - 3
:4samus::4zss::substitute:
Ridley

Star Fox - 3
:4fox::4falco::wolf:

Kid Icarus - 3
:4pit::4palutena::substitute:
Medusa

Mii Fighters - 3
:4miibrawl::4miisword::4miigun:

EarthBound - 2
:4ness::4lucas:

Xenoblade - 2
:4shulk::substitute:
Elma

I know the SSB5 final roster is not going to be like this but I am sure it is going to be HUGE!!!! The one thing I am 100% certain will happen is that it will make many people hyped and many others salty.
 

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Cut Characters:

:4cloud::4ryu::4pacman::4megaman:(Third Party chars. I exclude Sonic and Bayonetta, since they're SEGA chars, and if any of the third parties will have their characters return, it's SEGA. PAcman has the best chance of returning though)

:4darkpit::4lucina:(Clones. Barely made it into the game. May just appear as costumes. Although Lucina has the novelty of being part of the "Marth Saga" of FE, and Dark Pit is Sakurai's charcater)

:4feroy::4lucas::4drmario:(May get cut due to barely making it into the game to begin with, plus being clones. However, them being 2-time veterans is a huge roadblock to them getting cut)

:4corrin:/:4corrinf:(Much like Roy, he's merely promotion for his FE game. And much like Roy, he will most likely get cut in the next Smash game)

:4greninja:(Feel like he's in the same boat as :4corrin:/:4corrinf:, since he was put to promote X & Y. and unless he becomes as popular as :4charizard:, I don't think it would be fit for him to represent Pokemon in smash anymore)

Not all of these I myself want cut, just realistic possibilities imo

Returning: :popo: (Only cut character I truly believe will return next time around for obvious reasons)

Newcomers:
(Desire: 6/10. I think P. Mario's got a good shot at making it in, especially with Sakurai wanting unique characters in Smash. Just look at Rosalina and Bowser Jr.)
(Desire: 5/10. I think it's necessary we get a Mario charcater to represent the numerous sports, party, and kart spin offs, especially because of how important they are to the Mario series.)
(Desire: 2/10 Not really too high on my list, but I think a clone of Yoshi would be interesting.)
(Desire: 4/10. Yep, K. Rool isn't that important to me either. However, him being DK's main villain, as well as being a heavy character, make me want him in the game due to lack of heavy characters.)
(Desire: 3.5/10/ I don't really care much for Waluigi, put want him merely because I feel he could have a very unorthodox and wacky fighting style much like Wario and could use dark energy in his attacks.)
(Desire: 5.5/10 If Wario get's another rep, I'd prefer her, as she has the potential to be unique with her magic wand.)
(Desire: 9.5/10. Doesn't really have any reason to be in the game, but I still want him in. I'd love for him to use Link's various masks from MM in his abilities.)
(Desire: 10/10. Has a pretty good shot as making it in as a Zelda rep imo, given how he's a fan favorite, and how he's had numerous fan service roles in recent games such as HW, TFH, and even SSB4 itself. Not to mention he'sa form of Link, which increases odds, and, technically, a veteran from Melee.)
(Desire: 8.5/10. Doubt she has a shot given that her game will be irrelevant by the time the next smash comes out. But perhaps the TP HD remake may give her the slightest chance)
(Desire: 8/10. Same as Midna, but I think he has a slight edge over her due to being a form of Link)
(Desire: 1/10 I care nothing for Tingle, but given his constant appearances in the Zelda games, he's arguably Zelda's most likely candiate. Only reason I'd tolerate him in is due to him being a Zelda rep)
(Desire: 3/10 Much like Tingle, she's one of the few non-triforce wielding characters that appears many times in the Zelda series. However, my desire to include her is so low because she most likely would either end up as a Sheik clone or as a sword wielder)
(Desire: 10/10 Yet another of the few characters that appear multiple times in the Zelda series, Epona is easily an iconic part of the Zelda series at this point, and I'd love for her to be included just to see how funny it would be for a horse to fight humans. However, her move set would, I'd imagine, be pretty limited, so I'd have Malon ride on her, and the two would fight together similar to the Duck Hunt Dog & Duck)
(Desire: 7/10 Anouma has stated that he hopes to include Linkle in future Zelda games, and if this comes to pass, I think she'll have an exceptionally good shot at making it in, especially given that she's, much like Wolf Link and Fierce Deity, another "form" of Link.)
(Desire: 7.5/10 Not much of explanation is needed. Meowth is up their with Pikachu as the most popular pokemon of all time, all thanks to the anime, and he definitely deserves to be in Smash because of his huge role in the anime)
(Desire: 10/10 Appearing in both Mewtwo and Lucario's Pokemon movies as a major character, I think Mew has enough popularity to make it in as Pokerep, and would also represent Event Pokemon. I'd want her to be a original character, but I wouldn't mind her being a clone of Mewtwo either)
(Desire: 6/10 One of the 3rd gens most popular Pokemon, and even appearing in Pokken, Sceptile is a very good choice for a grass type, and would definitely be unique due to using plants to fight. )
(Desire: 6/10, Much like Sceptile, he's appeared in Pokken tournament. He's also heavily being advertised by GameFreak, and they're usually the one's that pick which Pokemon make it into smash.)

(Desire: 10/10. Not even a big Ridley fan, and I doubt I'd get super excited by his inclusion, but the Metroid series needs at least one more rep to make it seem full. Sakurai is well aware of his popularity as well and even has made attempts to put him in smash 4. Let's hope he gets the Pacman and Villager treatment)
(Desire: 4.5/10/ If Ridley made it in, I'd see Dark Samus as being an unnecessary but welcome bonus, much like Dark Pit. I feel that Ridley would help complete and give us a satisfactory Metroid line up of characters. I'd prefer for her to not be a clone)
(Desire: 3/10/ Same as Dark Samus, I feel three Kirby reps are good enough, and if Bandana Dee did make it in, it'd be an extra bonus, which I'd welcome, but wouldn't really care for)
(Desire: 9/10 There chances are pretty low for the next game I think , as unless they get another game between Smash 4 and Smash 5, I severely doubt they'll have any hopes of making it in. Never the less, I want them in badly and they'd easily be a unique fighter.)
 
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Being realistic...

Cut Characters: :4miibrawl::4miigun::4miisword::4robinm::4feroy::4lucina::4darkpit::4drmario::rosalina::4jigglypuff::4greninja::4bayonetta::4ganondorf:

Yeah... Come at me.

The rest of the Smash 4 cast returns as well as...

Returning characters: :wolf::popo:

Newcomers include...
  1. Inkling
  2. Issac
  3. Captain Toad
  4. Yarn Yoshi
  5. King K. Rool
  6. Rhythm Heaven Girl
  7. Impa
  8. Ganon
  9. Sceptile
  10. Bandanna Dee
  11. Tiki
  12. Sylux
  13. Elma
  14. Lip
  15. Big Third Party inclusion: Scorpion
:4samus: & :4zss: as well as :4zelda: & :4sheik: are now back together.
:4miibrawl::4miigun::4miisword: - The Mii Fighters are here to stay. Why cut them in the first place?
:4robinf: - While still being a swordsman, Robin has the tome system, making him/her a unique character from most of the other FE reps.
:4feroy: - Roy will return (probably as DLC again) due to popular demand.
:4lucina::4drmario::4darkpit: - The clones are not that likely to be removed. Probably Lucina and Dark Pit (maybe) but not Dr. Mario. He returned in the vanilla SSB4, and he's probably here to stay.
:rosalina: - You do realize Rosalina is not going anywhere, right?
:4jigglypuff: - How is Jigglypuff a likely candidate to get cut exactly?
:4greninja: - See above.
:4ganondorf: - Yeah, no.

Honestly, the only one I agree to get cut is :4bayonetta:.
 

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:4miibrawl::4miigun::4miisword: - The Mii Fighters are here to stay. Why cut them in the first place?
:4robinf: - While still being a swordsman, Robin has the tome system, making him/her a unique character from most of the other FE reps.
:4feroy: - Roy will return (probably as DLC again) due to popular demand.
:4lucina::4drmario::4darkpit: - The clones are not that likely to be removed. Probably Lucina and Dark Pit (maybe) but not Dr. Mario. He returned in the vanilla SSB4, and he's probably here to stay.
:rosalina: - You do realize Rosalina is not going anywhere, right?
:4jigglypuff: - How is Jigglypuff a likely candidate to get cut exactly?
:4greninja: - See above.
:4ganondorf: - Yeah, no.

Honestly, the only one I agree to get cut is :4bayonetta:.
Did you see the thread title name? It says if YOU were in charge.
 

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:4miibrawl::4miigun::4miisword: - The Mii Fighters are here to stay. Why cut them in the first place?
:4robinf: - While still being a swordsman, Robin has the tome system, making him/her a unique character from most of the other FE reps.
:4feroy: - Roy will return (probably as DLC again) due to popular demand.
:4lucina::4drmario::4darkpit: - The clones are not that likely to be removed. Probably Lucina and Dark Pit (maybe) but not Dr. Mario. He returned in the vanilla SSB4, and he's probably here to stay.
:rosalina: - You do realize Rosalina is not going anywhere, right?
:4jigglypuff: - How is Jigglypuff a likely candidate to get cut exactly?
:4greninja: - See above.
:4ganondorf: - Yeah, no.

Honestly, the only one I agree to get cut is :4bayonetta:.
I realize this is if you were in charge, but since you're talking about a developer's perspective, why would they cut a character who's just been proven to be one of the most popular choices for this game? Especially since the connection between Nintendo and Sega is still pretty strong.
 

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This is my list of newcomers for Super Smash Bros. 5/NX:

Takamaru (Nazo no Murasame Jo)
Isaac (Golden Sun)
Tempo (Harmo Knight)
Heracles (Glory of Heracles)
Inkling (Splatoon)
King K.Rool (Donkey Kong)
Black Shadow (F-Zero)
Deathborn (F-Zero GX)
Meowth (Pokémon)
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
Saki Amamiya (Sin and Punishment: Successor of the Earth)
Dillon (Dillon's Rolling Western)
Mike Anderson (Battle Clash)
Bomberman (Bomberman)
Simon Belmont (Castlevania)
Professor Layton (Professor Layton)
Protagonist (Famicom Detective Club)
Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Detective Club)
Andy (Advance Wars)
Henry Fleming (Code Name: S.T.E.A.M.)
Raymond Bryce (Disaster: Day of Crisis)
Harry (Teleroboxer)
Sukapon (Joy Mecha Fight)
Crono (Chrono Trigger)
Ivan (Devil's Third)
Goku (Yuyuki)
Tin Star (Tin Star)
John Raimi (Geist)
Alexandra Roivas (Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem)
Mike Jones (Star Tropics)
Captain Rainbow (Captain Rainbow)
Nintendoji (Nintendoji)
Rayman (Rayman)
Zael (The Last Story)
Aeron (Pandora's Tower)
Andy (Advance Wars)
Earthworm Jim (Earthworm Jim)
Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
Chibi-Robo (Chibi-Robo)
Chief Zog (Warlocked)
Queen Azarel (Warlocked)
Frey (Zangeki no Reginleiv)
Freya (Zangeki no Reginleiv)
Kevin (Karkurenbo Battle Monster Tactics)
Muddy Mole (Mole Mania)
 
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This is my list of newcomers for Super Smash Bros. 5/NX:

Takamaru (Nazo no Murasame Jo)
Isaac (Golden Sun)
Tempo (Harmo Knight)
Heracles (Glory of Heracles)
Inkling (Splatoon)
King K.Rool (Donkey Kong)
Black Shadow (F-Zero)
Deathborn (F-Zero GX)
Meowth (Pokémon)
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
Saki Amamiya (Sin and Punishment: Successor of the Earth)
Dillon (Dillon's Rolling Western)
Mike Anderson (Battle Clash)
Bomberman (Bomberman)
Simon Belmont (Castlevania)
Professor Layton (Professor Layton)
Protagonist (Famicom Detective Club)
Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Detective Club)
Andy (Advance Wars)
Henry Fleming (Code Name: S.T.E.A.M.)
Raymond Bryce (Disaster: Day of Crisis)
Harry (Teleroboxer)
Sukapon (Joy Mecha Fight)
Crono (Chrono Trigger)
Ivan (Devil's Third)
Goku (Yuyuki)
Tin Star (Tin Star)
John Raimi (Geist)
Alexandra Roivas (Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem)
Mike Jones (Star Tropics)
Captain Rainbow (Captain Rainbow)
Nintendoji (Nintendoji)
Rayman (Rayman)
Zael (The Last Story)
Aeron (Pandora's Tower)
Andy (Advance Wars)
Earthworm Jim (Earthworm Jim)
Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
Chibi-Robo (Chibi-Robo)
Chief Zog (Warlocked)
Queen Azarel (Warlocked)
Frey (Zangeki no Reginleiv)
Freya (Zangeki no Reginleiv)
Kabin (Karkurenbo Battle Monster Tactics)
Muddy Mole (Mole Mania)
Out of all those projected newcomers of yours, I say Crono (Chrono Trigger), Isaac (Golden Sun), Bomberman, Simon Belmont, King K Rool, Takemaru, Inklings, Alexandra Roivas (Eternal Darkness), John Raimi (Geist), Ayumi Techibana, and the Yuyuki Goku are all good picks here.
 

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Everyone from Smash 4 returns except Ryu, Bayonetta, and Lucina.

Wolf and Ice Climbers also return.

Newcomers:

Isaac (Golden Sun)
King K. Rool (Donkey Kong)
Sceptile (Pokemon)
Saki (Sin & Punishment)
Sami (Advance Wars)
Takamaru (Nazo no Murasame Jo)
Inklings (Splatoon)
 

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Updated my roster:



-changed Shovel Knight to Slime, from Dragon Quest - to be honest, I have no idea if Shovel Knight's popularity will last, and Dragon Quest is a huge phenomenon, especially in Japan. It's basically the grandfather of the genre, like Street Fighter is for fighting games, so it makes sense to include the most iconic creature from it

-added Takamaru and Krystal to bring the roster to 80 (meaning that there are 19 newcomers)

In addition, I changed the default costumes for two characters (Wario gets his classic alt for no reason other than personal preference; Corrin defaults to female because I feel like, with male Corrin as the default, the Fire Emblem roster as it appears on the character select screen feels kind of samey; male Corrin is still an alt, though).

While Grovyle is in the roster, he's pretty much a placeholder for a new Pokemon. I feel like he'd be interesting on his own, and could represent the Mystery Dungeon spin-off, but there might be more relevant choices - I haven't followed Pokemon for well over a decade, so I have no idea what a good choice would be.

Also, I figure I should mention that Ganondorf, Dark Pit, and Lucina would be decloned to some degree (Ganondorf's B and B-Down would change to things that he does in the Zelda games; Dark Pit and Lucina would have their A moves changed to keep them from being 1:1 copies of Pit and Marth, and Dark Pit would get Pit's Brawl specials).
 
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I'd have all the vetran's Mario, Link, Fox, Pikachu Donkey Kong, Samus return ECT. The alter egos like Dr. Mario, Shiek would be alternate costumes for their respective characters like say you want to play as Dr. Mario you go to Mario rotate through his costumes till you get to him and you play as him with his usual moveset Same with Shiek for Zelda Dark Pit for Pit ECT. I'd keep all the third party characters But I'd replace Bayonetta with Snake burn the witch, kidding Bayonetta's awesome, and even though I'd like to see her return I'd rather Snake come back. Plus I'd add Inklings and King K. Rool their the only characters I care about joining, I'd have Inkopolis and Gangplank Galleon to accompany them.
 
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I'd have all the vetran's Mario, Link, Fox, Pikachu Donkey Kong, Damus return ECT. The alter egos like Dr. Mario, Shiek would be alternate costumes for their respective characters like say you want to play as Dr. Mario you go to Mario rotate through his costumes till you get to him and you play as him with his usual moveset Same with Shiek for Zelda Dark Pit for Pit ECT. I'd keep all the third party characters But I'd replace Bayonetta with Snake burn the witch, kidding Bayonetta's awesome, and even though I'd like to see her return I'd rather Snake come back. Plus I'd add Inklings and King K. Rool their the only characters I care about joining, I'd have Inkopolis and Gangplank Galleon to accompany them.
You realize that Shiek plays far differently than Zelda right? Having Shiek as an alt costume isn't gonna work
 

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I posted in this thread long long ago, but my priorities and many of my opinions have changed since then and I think I'll post another "dream roster" if in some alternate time line I was in charge of Smash 5

First and foremost, the entire Smash 4 roster returns (including DLC) I'm pretty happy with most of the characters and would like to see them kept.

I'd also bring back some cut veterans to fill the hole in my broken, cold heart. Wolf, Ice Climbers, Snake, and Pichu. Pichu is purely a bias pick as I think she'd be rather fun after getting the Roy treatment.

As for newcomers I would go pretty nuts in terms of quantity, but try to keep it somewhat realistic in terms of the type of characters getting in.

General Nintendo Newcomers



Third Party Newcomers

Super Mario Newcomers

Wario Newcomers

Donkey Kong Newcomers

Legend of Zelda Newcomers

Fire Emblem Newcomers

Metroid Newcomers

Star Fox Newcomer

Pokemon Newcomer

Kirby Newcomer

Kid Icarus Newcomer

Xenoblade Newcomer

Animal Crossing Newcomer

If you read all that, good for you and I think you for your time! As you can tell I'm pretty enthusiastic about video games in general, Nintendo in particular, and especially Smash. As a bonus here is a list of some of the characters I wanted to add, but held off because it was already out of control.

Honorable Mentions/DLC Candidates(?)
 
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SSBV All series are the same as SSB4(full starting roster returns) unless specified, number of playable fighters are marked, changed or not.
Divided into divisions by party
 
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I would go for a more bare bones, essential-only roster; that way no one would be butt-hurt. I would add Ridley and Machamp (Ridley must work. I don't care how big he is; he needs to be in the game), and cut a good number of characters. Time would be spent making sure the roster is balanced and each character is viable. No more Falcon-dorf; heck, I'm not even sure Captain Falcon ever deserved to be in Smash in the first place.

I think a healthy way to look at it is imagine no Smash game ever existed but you understood the general concept of it; then what would your roster be? Sure they're series staples at this point, but would you ever have even considered adding Captain Falcon or Jigglypuff? I feel like we just got stuck with a lot of these weird characters due to time constraints and other unforeseen circumstances.

I think the reason Sakurai never adds K. Rool is because he doesn't see a whole lot interesting about him or his moveset. Maybe Sakurai is just biased and he just doesn't personally like the character for some reason. Once you study his boss battles, you can clearly see there is more than enough there for an interesting and unique moveset. Crown throwing, blunderbuss shooting, boxing gloves. Why Retro Studios abandoned the character is beyond me; they just further dug his grave. That's like if Nintendo stopped using Bowser Sunshine-on. There is such an overwhelming support of the character; I just can't see why Sakurai hasn't gave in.

(Desire: 2/10 Not really too high on my list, but I think a clone of Yoshi would be interesting.)
I was always a fan of Birdo, though I do think her (his? lol) chances for inclusion are almost slim-to-none, though I do think as a clone of Yoshi would be a worthy inclusion; I would just give her the ability to spit eggs since she doesn't have a tongue, but then she would be a semi-clone, and there are more deserving characters from the Mario franchise or other franchises that could be used with that time.

I just think Daisy gets in as an alternate for Peach.
 
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For the Veterans of the past Smash Bros games

From Smash 64 : All of them

From Melee: All of them except Pichu and Roy. Few characters will be an alt costumes.

From Brawl: All of them

From Smash 4: All of them except Dark Pit and Wii Fit Trainer.

If I want newcomers for the next Smash Bros game, then I would pick the characters that I think would make sense

Mario: Waluigi
Yoshi: Kamek
Wario: Ashley and Shake King
Donkey Kong: King K Rool, Dixie Kong, and Lord Fredrik
Legend of Zelda: Zant, Vaati, and Ghirahim
Pokemon: Machamp, Hawlucha, Sceptile, and Infernape
Kirby: Bandana Waddle Dee, and Daroach
Metroid: Ridley, Rundas, and Adam Malkovich
Mother: Ninten and Kumatora
Star Fox: Krystal and General Scale
Kid Icarus: Viridi and Medusa
F-Zero: Black Shadow, Samurai Goroh, and Deathborn
Fire Emblem: Lyn
Other Nintendo Series: Inklings (Splatoon), Banjo Kazooie, Elma (Xenoblade X), and Mach Rider
Non Nintendo Series: Rayman, Bomberman, Ratchet and Clank, Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden), Simon Belmont (Castlevania), Crash (Crash Bandicoot), Knuckles (Sonic), Zero (Megaman X), Sora (Kingdom Hearts) and Kazuya (Tekken)

All of my suggestions for the newcomers would of been impossible by video games standards, but it would be interesting to see if the NX can handle all of these characters that I suggested in the next Smash Bros game.

By the way I don't know how to make my own roster. Perhaps I'm lazy of doing it but whatever.
 
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Sakurai just likes to add WTF characters sometimes because why not, probably. Wii Fit Trainer is a fine addition but she falls under that category.
 

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All I know for sure is that I would definitely add Geno. Unless Square Enix don't let me use him, in which case... well... ****.
I probably wouldn't cut anybody unless it adding them was a virtual impossibility (like:popo:) or if we already have too many third-parties. Call me crazy, but I don't really want Smash to turn into "Sega VS. Capcom VS. Namco VS. Square Enix VS. Rare VS. Naughty Dog: Featuring Mario and Link as guest DLC!"
 
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INCLUDED
Mario:
-Mario
-Bowser
-Peach
-Luigi
-Wario

-Waluigi
-Yoshi
-Dr. Mario
-Bowser Jr.
-Rosalina (moveset revamped. No luma)

Donkey Kong:
-Donkey Kong
-Diddy Kong

-King K. Rool
-Chunky Kong

Zelda:
-Link
-Young Link

-Fierce Deity Link
-Zelda
-Sheik (Moveset more similar to Melee than Smash 4)
-Ganondorf

Pokemon:
-Pikachu
-Mewtwo

-Meowth
-Greninja
-Jigglypuff
-Squirtle

Kid Icarus:
-Pit
-Dark Pit
-Palutena (revamped)

F-Zero:
-Captain Falcon
-Blood Falcon
-Black Shadow

Metroid:
-Samus
-Zero Suit Samus

Earthbound:
-Ness
-Lucas

-Ninten
Capcom:
-Ryu
-Akuma
-Megaman
-Viewtiful Joe
Sonic:
-Sonic
-Knuckles
Kirby:
-Kirby
-Metaknight
-King Dedede

Fire Emblem:
-Marth
-Roy
-Robin

Punch Out:
-Little Mac
-Piston Honda
Other:
-Rob
-Mr. Game & Watch
-Pac Man
-Cloud
-Mii (add more classes for Miis)
-Duck Hunt
-Villager
-Shulk

Star Fox:
-Fox McCloud
-Falco Lombardi
-Wolf O'Donnell

-General Scales
CUT:
Wii Fit Trainer
Lucina
Ike (move set given to Fierce Deity Link)
Charizard
Ivysaur
Pichu
Lucario
Toon Link
Corrin
Bayonetta
Olimar
 

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CUT:
Wii Fit Trainer
Lucina
Ike (move set given to Fierce Deity Link)
Charizard
Ivysaur
Pichu
Lucario
Toon Link
Corrin
Bayonetta
Olimar
I hope you got your flame suit ready. Because there's gonna be people jumping on you in 5, 4, 3...

*walkers snarling*

Good luck :)
 
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