Vayseth
Smash Master
While it's true that he is talking about competition in general, he uses those outside sources only as examples to further his point, which is directly and almost entirely about competitive gaming. Using Sirlin is kind of a cop-out in a way, mainly because he is so respected for what he wrote and trying to knock him down would be disrespectful to all the work that he has done. With that aside, Sirlin's work cannot just be copy and pasted to every competitive medium out there. It just doesn't work that way. In order for Smash to become recognized as a respectable fighting game, the game had to undergo multiple rule set changes before we finally came to the decision that stock matches and no items were more conducive to competition than time and with items on, which is the default setting. These changes in themselves go against his writing. Even if you're willing to take it that far, we have to realize that there is no competitive "norm" for smash, and there likely will never be one. Everyone differs in opinion on how this game should be played while EVERYONE in competitive gaming in other games have one solid ruling as for what is allowed and what is not. Sirlin is only stating that people who look at the solid rulings from the community and say "that is gay" and decide to ban it anyway, are taking away from the competitive spirit. I will bet you that when the SBR goes to vote again, that Luigi's Mansion WILL be taken off of the "ruleset" because the stage itself hinders the spirit of competition.
Smash is a completely different game, it will NEVER be understood to players of exclusively smash why things are stated as they are in Sirlin's work. The rules are 100% set and were made as competitive games, where as smash the rules seem to change every week and the game was never intended to be competitive. Other fighters are made to be competitive, so they take certain things into account when designing the game (like not having stages that help/hurt certain characters in the game). Smash is not like this and will likely never be developed to be a competitive fighter mainly because of how deeply you can customize all of the settings. No other fighting game allows players to customize their experience and the game was designed that way. Therefore, casual gamers can play their way, and competitive gamers can play their way. It's the beauty of this game. However, EVERY OTHER FIGHTER is designed from the ground up to be competitive, and therefore does not have the customization that smash does, because it was made for nothing but competition.
So, to go so far as to say that Sirlin's work somehow justifies that Luigi's Mansion should be turned on is simply ludicrous. It's one stage, which has already been proven to change the fundamentals of the game and decrease overall competitive spirit and is proven only by the sheer amount of tournaments and whole regions which ban the stage outright. If we want to go by his rules, we should turn all the stages on and just sort of "deal with it."
While we still have this mentality where a definite rule set is not required and only a "recommended" rule set is enforced, the TOs can do whatever they want. I believe the TO has the right to their decision, and I am only defending it. He's not banning Lylat because of its stupid edges, he's banning something which already is banned all across the country. I am 100% sure that when the SBR goes back to (hopefully) create a FINAL rule set with no recommendations, that Luigi's Mansion will be banned. So, what's the point of even arguing this?
Smash is a completely different game, it will NEVER be understood to players of exclusively smash why things are stated as they are in Sirlin's work. The rules are 100% set and were made as competitive games, where as smash the rules seem to change every week and the game was never intended to be competitive. Other fighters are made to be competitive, so they take certain things into account when designing the game (like not having stages that help/hurt certain characters in the game). Smash is not like this and will likely never be developed to be a competitive fighter mainly because of how deeply you can customize all of the settings. No other fighting game allows players to customize their experience and the game was designed that way. Therefore, casual gamers can play their way, and competitive gamers can play their way. It's the beauty of this game. However, EVERY OTHER FIGHTER is designed from the ground up to be competitive, and therefore does not have the customization that smash does, because it was made for nothing but competition.
So, to go so far as to say that Sirlin's work somehow justifies that Luigi's Mansion should be turned on is simply ludicrous. It's one stage, which has already been proven to change the fundamentals of the game and decrease overall competitive spirit and is proven only by the sheer amount of tournaments and whole regions which ban the stage outright. If we want to go by his rules, we should turn all the stages on and just sort of "deal with it."
While we still have this mentality where a definite rule set is not required and only a "recommended" rule set is enforced, the TOs can do whatever they want. I believe the TO has the right to their decision, and I am only defending it. He's not banning Lylat because of its stupid edges, he's banning something which already is banned all across the country. I am 100% sure that when the SBR goes back to (hopefully) create a FINAL rule set with no recommendations, that Luigi's Mansion will be banned. So, what's the point of even arguing this?
