Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[SpecterFlower]

But those are still Falcom games? Localization being made by other people and not them does not make those games as invalid Falcom games on the Switch. This is random to the point I barely get your point, if I'm being honest.

This is like saying the Ace Attorney DS games don't count as Capcom games because Nintendo were the ones who did the localization for Europe.

that's not just localization Falcom already localizes them for Playstation, NIS publishes those games as well as port them, all Nintendo falcom games are handled like this, basically a 3rd party pay's falcom and then publishes falcom's games on other platforms, so Falcom doesn't work with Nintendo in the process.

here's a fun test, search "Falcom" in the eshop and see if Ys or Trails show up.

 

[Will]

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tbf the esrb leak was correct and gematsu was probably correct but outdated.

oh but kens thumbs up wasn't real enough for you? i just smashed every leak within the past eight years together. could've added a gaming mag april 1 article at the end for a little bit more spice for the one girl from 2001 in here

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Please do us all a favor and never post that image again

every time an obvious fake leak is posted until you all learn some gosh darn common sense

 

[SKX31]

Be pretty big whiplash going from the biggest JRPG of all time (not named Pokemon) to a Falcom game, ngl.

That's why a Falcom rep will ideally Falcom Punch its way into the mainstream via a Smash inclusion.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Steve was revealed at 3 AM in Sweden

Isn't everyone raving at 3AM in Sweden? Coincides perfectly.

Hold your horses! Lemme check.

The next #SmashBrosUltimate DLC fighter will be revealed tomorrow at 7am PT! The video presentation will be roughly 3 minutes long, followed by a brief message from Director Masahiro Sakurai. Tune-in here tomorrow: https://t.co/7RL5x0EEVI pic.twitter.com/Fqmw03axMv

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) September 30, 2020

7 AM PT = 16.00 Swedish Time (4 PM). There.

Irrelevant, its always 3 A.M. in Sweden.

Now that is always true.

But you wanna know what makes it truly Swedish? Besides IKEA and moose signs? Everyone uses "jävla [swearword]" (when jävla - devilish is the literal translation - is in itself a swearword), smörgåsbord are practically everywhere, and the local drinks are served in every bar (as well as the state-run alcohol shop chain, locally known as "The System Company" in a translated sense). Including the beer fit for F-Zero racers:

 

[SharkLord]

Gurumin 3D: A Monstrous Adventure for Nintendo 3DS - Nintendo Game Details
Semi-related, but apparently Gurumin had a 3DS port. Ys is the one Falcom series I'm overly familiar with, so learning this is a neat little tidbit.

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

All this talk about the next fighter being someone hardly anybody has brought up before is driving me nuts. I’m not even gonna day why, I’ve beaten y’all over the head with it enough, I’m sorry.

When people expect the unexpected, the most surprising thing is the most mundane.

See: Byleth.

 

[StrangeKitten]

It could be worse.

They may not even release in the near future.


Which, if Amiibo theory somehow still lives on, that means they could potentially drop mid/late March or early April lol.

I've missed this, though. We used to get a trailer and then wait a month+ for the fighter. It's exciting imo - we only know some of the moves, so it's fun to spend a while thinking about how the character will play. I like it more than revealing the character and getting their presentation three days later, especially since it makes the wait less agonizing. I'd rather wait two months, get a trailer, then wait a month for the release, as opposed to waiting three months but the release is days later. I'm a fan of knowing things more ahead of time.

 

[N3ON]

Still perplexes me that people are trying to construct constraints about what kind of character can or cannot be revealed when. You're really overthinking it.

Past E3 usually providing a megaton, you're unnecessarily putting yourself in a box trying to extrapolate from precedent. A character has to have a Nintendo association for a general Direct? What are you on about, Cloud was revealed in a general Direct, and he invalidated the entire notion of Nintendo association being relevant. Pokemon can only be revealed in a Smash Direct? ....what? Why? The reasoning for that one begins and ends with it not having happened otherwise yet.

Peoples' compulsion for some predictable order is really making them swing for the fences. But it doesn't work like that and it's not as complicated as you're making it.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Zelda and Pokemon are both getting anniversaries but we all know how anniversary's have been for speculation.

Still, maybe this lack of a patter will be broken.

 

[Captain Shwampy]

Gurumin 3D: A Monstrous Adventure for Nintendo 3DS - Nintendo Game Details
Semi-related, but apparently Gurumin had a 3DS port. Ys is the one Falcom series I'm overly familiar with, so learning this is a neat little tidbit.

I remember it ran like crap and my eyes hurt playing that version.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Big if true.

just heard from a source within nintendo that the character announced for smash bros tomorrow will be sephiroth

— Hard Drive (@HardDriveMag) February 17, 2021

 

[SpecterFlower]

Zelda and Pokemon are both getting anniversaries but we all know how anniversary's have been for speculation.

Metroid, DK and Pikmin too!

 

[Ayumi Tachibana]

I don’t think the hoho Sakurai posted means anything. If I’m not mistaken that’s kinda the way to joke laugh in Japanese. Like “haha IF there is info on Smash? Of course there’s info on smash!” At least I think it’s something like that.

ほう (hou) isn't used to express laughs, it's used when you noticed or get interested to something. ほうほう (houhou) becomes more of a joking manner. So it means like "I'm listening" or "you cought my attention".
"Hmm..." is better translation I think.

Laughs would be something like ホホッ (hoho / elegant a little overbearing), ほほ (hoho / elegant a little softer), ほっほ (hohho / a gentle laugh of an old man), フォッフォッ (foffo / old man with full beard or Alien Baltan).

But this doesn't change anything anyway.
I think the tweet means nothing.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Big if true.

just heard from a source within nintendo that the character announced for smash bros tomorrow will be sephiroth

— Hard Drive (@HardDriveMag) February 17, 2021

Ok but for real tho if anyone wants to scout Zhuge/Imran/PracticalBrush12’s pages for info...

 

[Eldrake]

Hey, SKX31 , here's a little surprise for you.

 

[ROBnWatch]

Ok but for real tho if anyone wants to scout Zhuge/Imran/PracticalBrush12’s pages for info...

This actually brings a valid point. Some people like myself would rather not be spoiled. Now...do I make my exit today or tomorrow before any possible leaks?

 

[toonito]

with 2020 coming out to a close and 2021 on the horizon by this time next year Fighter's Pass 2 will be decided.

3 SPOTS LEFT!

Ladies and Gentlemen....LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLEEEEEEEE

IN ONE CORNER WE HAVE RYU HAYABUSA, RAYMAN, AND DOOOOOOOM SLAYEEEEEEER

IN CORNER 2 WE HAVE REIMU HAKUREI, CRASH BANDICOOT, AND KOOOOOOS-MOOOOOS

IN CORNER 3 WE HAVE LLOYD IRVING, YURI LOWELL, AND CHUUUUUUUUN-LIIIIIIIIIIIIII

IN CORNER 4 WE HAVE.......

NONE OF THE ABOOOOOOOVEEEEEE

FIGHT!​

let's go! i have no idea who it'll be!

we'll see which of the 9 speculated characters above gets the 1st nod or will Sakurai swerve everyone again?

 

[Perkilator]

Let's go Sora!

Your birth month is the character that gets announced for Super Smash Bros Ultimate tomorrow

Who are you getting? pic.twitter.com/vysi16xypg

— Jacob 🐰 (@JChipmunky) February 16, 2021

YES CASH BANOOCA

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Big if true.

just heard from a source within nintendo that the character announced for smash bros tomorrow will be sephiroth

— Hard Drive (@HardDriveMag) February 17, 2021

Impossible! We can’t have any FF7 characters be announced in a general direct
Seriously though, you all laughed when I said they were gonna release Sephiroth again. You won’t be laughing tomorrow. I can guarantee that.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Ok but for real tho if anyone wants to scout Zhuge/Imran/PracticalBrush12’s pages for info...

Closest I can think of is this:

Holiday 2001 just hit different, let me tell ya.

In the span of a few months you were in gaming ecstasy. pic.twitter.com/X1n0UlN3jr

— Shinobi602 (@shinobi602) February 15, 2021

Probably nothing, though.

 

[SpecterFlower]

just checked, Falcom hasn't published a single game for the switch.

 

[Shroob]

I've missed this, though. We used to get a trailer and then wait a month+ for the fighter. It's exciting imo - we only know some of the moves, so it's fun to spend a while thinking about how the character will play. I like it more than revealing the character and getting their presentation three days later, especially since it makes the wait less agonizing. I'd rather wait two months, get a trailer, then wait a month for the release, as opposed to waiting three months but the release is days later. I'm a fan of knowing things more ahead of time.

Well, that's your opinion.

I'd argue that the reveal and then waiting approach works against it tbh. Like, when Banjo was revealed, I was ecstatic as all hell, but I had to wait until he came out, so by the time he did, that hype phase was more or less gone. I was happy he was coming, sure, but it became less "HOLY **** HE'S IN SMASH!" and more "Okay, Banjo's coming in September, cool, got time to wait I guess."

To contrast, Steve and Sephiroth being revealed soo close to their release dates allowed that "HOLY CRAP!?!" to never really lose its luster. Because they were coming sooner than later, it gave us less time to get used to them. It was less "Remember when Sephiroth was shown off 2 months ago?" and more "HOLY **** HE COMES OUT SOO SOON!"


Know what I mean?

 

[Perkilator]

just checked, Falcom hasn't published a single game for the switch.

You clearly didn’t check hard enough. I’ve seen Ys Origins on the eShop, for one.

 

[DanganZilla5]

I'm pretty sure Hero proved that you don't need to be big in the West to be revealed at E3.

Oh yeah, and I'm going in mostly on Arle Nadja. I have a good feeling about her and she has some things going for her from Puyo Puyo's increased popularity and Sega pushing the I.P.

I'm also keeping an eye out for Crash, Reimu, and Phoenix Wright.

Speaking of Phoenix, imagine this scenario.

The direct starts and immediately we are thrown into an Ace Attorney trial. People are on the edge of their seat waiting to see if it's Smash or a new AA game. Then, they drop the bomb.......they show Joker as the defendant who stole an invitation. That invitation of course belongs to Phoenix himself. Afterwards, we get the announcement of the Great Ace Attorney collection and AA7.

I have a funny feeling this could happen.

 

[PLATINUM7]

just checked, Falcom hasn't published a single game for the switch.

Maybe because NIS publishes their games outside Japan.

 

[Will]

predicting scorpion, as i usually do

and when i come back from work and see 100 notifications and half of them are tags, i'll know

 

[SpecterFlower]

You clearly didn’t check hard enough. I’ve seen Ys Origins on the eShop, for one.

it. was not. published. by Falcom.

it doesn't matter if a game Falcom made is on the Eshop as long as Falcom didn't publish it it isn't their game.

sure they made it and own the ip and it is their game on other platforms but the switch version is entirely NIS, Not Falcom.

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

predicting scorpion, as i usually do

and when i come back from work and see 100 notifications and half of them are tags, i'll know

Hey, is that Chazz Princeton on your pfp?

 

[PLATINUM7]

it. was not. published. by Falcom.

it doesn't matter if a game Falcom made is on the Eshop as long as Falcom didn't publish it it isn't their game.

sure they made it and own the ip and it is their game on other platforms but the switch version is entirely NIS, Not Falcom.

I don't even know where to begin with this post.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Closest I can think of is this:

Holiday 2001 just hit different, let me tell ya.

In the span of a few months you were in gaming ecstasy. pic.twitter.com/X1n0UlN3jr

— Shinobi602 (@shinobi602) February 15, 2021

Probably nothing, though.

Love the fact that Dante, Master Chief, Pyramid Head, and Hayabusa are all on that games list...

Shinobi does this all the time tho I follow them so I see them all the time.

 

[SKX31]

Hey, SKX31 , here's a little surprise for you.

Yo,

WTF?

OUT OF ALL THE CHA- oh that makes sense. Still, hyped!

Absolutely nice to see, especially since MOBAs like Dota's lore has been unjustly in the background and DK - nah, not going to repeat that acronym, might cause people here to imagine the more famous DK - Dragon Knight has been long defined by his kinda static gameplay (Play early game, push your first tower with the first couple Dragon transformations, get involved in teamfights, push even more / teamfight even more, get fed with late-game items and the fully upgraded Dragon transformation if the game hasn't ended yet). So it's nice to see other aspects of him expanded upon.

Especially since the concept itself is cool - I mean, we're talking a knight that transforms into a dragon and back (with cooldown for each dragon transformation, but still).

predicting scorpion, as i usually do

and when i come back from work and see 100 notifications and half of them are tags, i'll know

If that happens, I'll let you know so that Might can indeed be Tested in Smash.

 

[Shroob]

it. was not. published. by Falcom.

it doesn't matter if a game Falcom made is on the Eshop as long as Falcom didn't publish it it isn't their game.

sure they made it and own the ip and it is their game on other platforms but the switch version is entirely NIS, Not Falcom.

"They own it, but they don't own it."


No, that's not how it works, at all.

 

[AreJay25]

Closest I can think of is this:

Holiday 2001 just hit different, let me tell ya.

In the span of a few months you were in gaming ecstasy. pic.twitter.com/X1n0UlN3jr

— Shinobi602 (@shinobi602) February 15, 2021

Probably nothing, though.

Can't believe we're getting a Toyota from Gran Turismo 3 as CP9.

 

[SpecterFlower]

Maybe because NIS publishes their games outside Japan.

they are published by NIS on the switch in Japan too.

 

[Inawordyes]

I haven't been around these parts in months, I know nothing about what's going on haha

are there any potentially-credible rumors or leaks heading into this direct?

 

[Eldrake]

Yo,

WTF?

OUT OF ALL THE CHA- oh that makes sense. Still, hyped!

Absolutely nice to see, especially since MOBAs like Dota's lore has been unjustly in the background and DK - nah, not going to repeat that acronym, might cause people here to imagine the more famous DK - Dragon Knight has been long defined by his kinda static gameplay (Play early game, push your first tower with the first couple Dragon transformations, get involved in teamfights, push even more / teamfight even more, get fed with late-game items and the fully upgraded Dragon transformation if the game hasn't ended yet). So it's nice to see other aspects of him expanded upon.

Especially since the concept itself is cool - I mean, we're talking a knight that transforms into a dragon and back (with cooldown for each dragon transformation, but still).

There's hoping that it leads to cool stuff down the line. Like a show focusing on Rubick would have grand potential.

 

[SharkLord]

I haven't been around these parts in months, I know nothing about what's going on haha

are there any potentially-credible rumors or leaks heading into this direct?

There's four we regularly discuss, but I'd take them with a grain of salt.

• One says that Chun-Li, Lloyd, and Yuri were planned but scrapped/dropped for whatever reason. They could be added, but they could just as easily not be added. Said rumor was from around the base game, and correctly called for Erdrick/Hero, Steve, and maybe Sephiroth.
• One claims an LoL character will be coming, as well as a Hollow Knight Mii with Sealed Vessel. It correctly guessed a Trials of Mana event and LoL games on the Switch, but it's also over a year old. I think its past its expiration date now.
• One calls for a Falcom character, as well as a lot of Falcom titles getting ports that were each called correctly. It's from summer of last year, so I think this is its last chance.
• One predicts KOS-MOS, Crash, and Reimu, as well as no returning Miis. It correctly guess Sephiroth, and that's about it. Wouldn't put any stock into this one; It's highly unlikely that someone would know four characters that far in advance.

 

[SNEKeater]

Ok but for real tho if anyone wants to scout Zhuge/Imran/PracticalBrush12’s pages for info...

I'd rather no leaks. We're just hours away from the reveal.

I mean, they could leak the character if they want but problem is, if they do, that will spread quickly because Smash is popular, so it would be hard going to the Direct without learning who's the fighter because people would talk about it on social media.

Unless they leak the character like 5 or 10 minutes before of the Direct, but I don't see the point in doing that.

Closest I can think of is this:

Holiday 2001 just hit different, let me tell ya.

In the span of a few months you were in gaming ecstasy. pic.twitter.com/X1n0UlN3jr

— Shinobi602 (@shinobi602) February 15, 2021

Probably nothing, though.

As NonSpecificGuy said, Shinobi usually does that kind of tweets all the time.

By the way, he's right. Holiday 2001 saw an absurd amount of good and historic games. I still think PS2/Xbox/Gamecube/Dreamcast era is the best one.

 

[GothicSlenderman]

Closest I can think of is this:

Holiday 2001 just hit different, let me tell ya.

In the span of a few months you were in gaming ecstasy. pic.twitter.com/X1n0UlN3jr

— Shinobi602 (@shinobi602) February 15, 2021

Probably nothing, though.

I know it's a little unrelated but I can't believe that guy forgot Sonic Adventure 2 in his tweet

 

[SKX31]

There's hoping that it leads to cool stuff down the line. Like a show focusing on Rubick would have grand potential.

As you commented previously, him playable in Smash would be a disaster. I'm primarily considering the fact that Rubick, in addition to having Kirby's exact damage multiplier on the copied spell, also has no cast time (start up frames) on his spells.

You'd have instant Charged Shots (and similar stuff like Gigaflare) with the guy. Might be better with another representative from that game.

(He'd be an hilarious AT though.)

Unless they leak the character like 5 or 10 minutes before of the Direct, but I don't see the point in doing that.

Zhuge's done that with Steve - the whole "can't believe dataminers didn't catch this" thing.

 

[rexfan53]

Am I the only one who thinks a pokemon is happening tomorrow? (((