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[nintendomaster24]

Please tell me Lucas' fastest arial. I'd appreciate it. I believe it is Up air.

 

[SuSa]

Bair or Nair, they are tied.

Bair=Nair>Fair>Uair>Dair

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=211307&highlight=lucas+frame+data


EDIT:

You were almost as wrong as you could be next time search for frame data.

I just typed "Lucas Frame Data" in the Search box, and boom. Right on page 2.

 

[nintendomaster24]

thanks alot Havokk, i really appreciate the fast response

 

[infomon]

havokk, gg about the Zamus stuff.. I look forward to whatever further experimentation you're able to perform. Take your time, of course.

Question concerning Fox:

Because his down-B stops his momentum completely, so much so as to induce a small rise from it, would it be 'smarter' to DI slightly more down then usual, use your quickest aerial (is that uair/bair or nair? I think uair...I need to see some frame data) then use down-B, then continue to recover from there (eg; jump from the shine then side-b or up-b)

I'm preeeeetty sure that there's no situation in which his down-B gains you anything. Fox' saving grace is that his fastfall is fast, and I think his jump is useful for horizontal survival... but Shine should never help. All it does is boost you away (really: it just negates the amount that his fall speed helps fight knockback), and that includes the amount his horizontal "air speed" helps fight horizontal knockback lol. So I think Fox has to fastfall fastest-aerial (whatever it is), then maybe jump towards the stage. If his jump is good enough, he might actually want to DI lower than normal to let the jump help him; which is sort of what you wanted to do with the down-B.

Of course, I might be completely confused.

 

[SuSa]

havokk, gg about the Zamus stuff.. I look forward to whatever further experimentation you're able to perform. Take your time, of course.



I'm preeeeetty sure that there's no situation in which his down-B gains you anything. Fox' saving grace is that his fastfall is fast, and I think his jump is useful for horizontal survival... but Shine should never help. All it does is boost you away (really: it just negates the amount that his fall speed helps fight knockback), and that includes the amount his horizontal "air speed" helps fight horizontal knockback lol. So I think Fox has to fastfall fastest-aerial (whatever it is), then maybe jump towards the stage. If his jump is good enough, he might actually want to DI lower than normal to let the jump help him; which is sort of what you wanted to do with the down-B.

Of course, I might be completely confused.

I'll be testing it all later today, don't worry.

 

[AuraKid]

its deleted
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