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Can't Let you cut me Sakurai, Wolf for DLC

CannonStreak

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after SSB64 finals which runs from 3PM-6PM so at 6:00 ET 5:00 CT 4:00 MT 3:00 PT so the announcement comes right before the Super Bowl for me because the Super Bowl starts at 6:30 ET but 5:30 my time.
Okay then. Gotcha. Not exactly expecting a DLC announcement, but like I said, I am interested, nonetheless.
 

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Soooo...
What was the announcement?
 

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Yeah, Apex is over. It was all handled accordingly, the whole tournament went off without a hitch.
 

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Sakurai's main fear with DLC is that he fears it will be viewed as greedy and as bad as the other companies doing DLC, that is the only concern he expressed, well the base game is done with no glaring technical issues, they truly did work hard, and any DLC we get feels like a bonus to a great game, even veterans who were not playable in the base game, being paid DLC would feel like something new we want more DLC because it is extra content to a completed game, that enhances the experience. Wolf being DLC would enhance the gameplay experience of Super Smash Bros for Wii U/3DS, since him being playable would be the icing on the cake to make this game even more fun. Sakurai has no fear, releasing Wolf as DLC, would not be viewed as withholding content just to get extra money, it would be viewed as an enhancer to a perfect game, that is worth paying for. Tingle DLC for Hyrule Warriors is not viewed as withheld content, it is viewed as an enhancement to a completed game. Let Sakurai know Wolf DLC will make people happy, and will be our icing on the cake for this game.
 

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Last update to my first poll. I'm making a second version of my poll with some additions (no removals) and some changes.
Can't Let You Do That, Tier List
Wolf 622


Top Tier
Lucas 578
King K. Rool 542
Ice Climbers 531
Ridley 453
Snake (Metal Gear) 443
Dixie Kong 415


High Tier
Toad/Captain Toad 381
Bandana Dee 369
Isaac (Golden Sun) 348
Black Shadow 345
Roy 326
Kamek 312
Paper Mario 311
Impa 311
Krystal 311
Banjo & Kazooie 305


Mid Tier
Ashley 292
Waluigi 285
Majora (Skull Kid) 282
Dark Samus 261
Bayonetta 260
Hades 247
Bomberman 238
Samurai Goroh 233
Simon Belmont (Castlevania) 232
Chrom 218
Inklings 217
Midna 209
Rayman 208
Ghirahim 207
Wonder Red (Wonder 101) 201
Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney) 201


Low Tier
Sceptile 195
Shy Guy 192
Squirtle 187
Lyn 187
Medusa 186
Cranky Kong 178
Ivysaur 178
Zero (Mega Man) 175
Chibi Robo 173
Porky 172
Captain Syrup 161
Takamaru (The Mysterious Musasame Castle) 161
Chorus Kids (Rhythm Heaven) 160
King Boo 157
Slippy 156
Black Mage (Final Fantasy) 155
Viridi 151


Bottom Tier
Tails (Sonic the Hedgehog) 147
Ganon 145
Anna 145
Andy (Advanced Wars) 145
Knuckles (Sonic the Hedgehog) 145
Professor Layton 143
Geno (Super Mario RPG) 143
Vaati 141
Claus (Masked Man) 141
Dillon (Rolling Western) 140
Sora (Kingdom Hearts) 139
Tiki 129
Blaziken 128


Shantae 127
Tetra 126
Tharja 126
Fawful 122
Young Link 121
Groose 121
Hector 119
Ray MK (Custom Robo) 119
X (Mega Man) 117
Pichu 116
Magnus 115
Tom Nook (Animal Crossing) 115
Crono (Chrono Trigger) 115
9-Volt 114
Viewtiful Joe 114
Mach Rider 113
Toon Ganondorf 112
Zoroark 112
Tingle 111
Shadow (Sonic the Hedgehog) 110
Blood Falcon 109
Knuckle Joe 108
Pokemon Trainer (Kanto) 108
Lanky Kong 107
Funky Kong 105
Sylux 102
Gengar 101
Conker (Conker's Bad Fur Day) 101
Mona 100
Agnès Oblige (Bravely Default) 99
Ephraim 97
Captain Rainbow 97
Prince Fluff 96
Saki (Sin & Punishment) 96
Daisy 95
Jeff 95
Hawlucha 94
Toon Zelda 93
Kumatora 93
Lana 92
Marshall (Rhythm Heaven) 91
Starfy (The Legendary Starfy) 91
Wolf Link 90
Excite Biker 90
Fiora (Xenoblade) 90
Ninten 89
King Hippo (Punch Out!!) 89
Ryu (Street Fighter) 89
Black Knight 88
Meowth 87
Scizor 86
K.K Slider (Animal Crossing) 86
Dunban (Xenoblade) 85
Reyn (Xenoblade) 84
Lloyd (Tales of Symphonia) 84
Adeleine 83
Lip (Panel De Pon) 83
Quote (Cave Story) 83
Paula 82
Pokemon Trainer (Hoenn) 81
Poo 80
Plusle & Minun 78
Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes) 78
Pokemon Trainer (Kalos) 77
Phosphora 75
Jimmy T. 74
Zant 74
Anthony Higgs 74
Yarn Yoshi 73
Gardevoir 73
Rundas 73
Micaiah 73
Karate Joe (Rhythm Heaven) 73
Cloud (Final Fantasy) 73
Kat & Ana 72
Sami (Advanced Wars) 72
Giygas 69
Balloon Fighter 68
Maxwell (Scribbelnauts) 67
Deoxys 66
Peppy 66
Roll (Mega Man) 66
Elite Beat Agents 65
Raiden (Metal Gear) 64
Pokemon Trainer (Johto) 63
Zael (The Last Story) 62
Genesect 61
Cia 59
Mike Jones (Star Tropics) 59
Pokemon Trainer (Sinnoh) 58
Captain N 58
Blastoise 57
Eirika 57
Pokemon Trainer Villain 56
Alex (Golden Sun) 55
Slime (Dragon Quest) 55
Rhythm Heaven Girl 54
Prince Sable (For the Frog the Bell Tolls) 54
Dig Dug 54
Magolor 53
Mew 53
Cooking Mama 53
Nabbit 52
Pokemon Trainer (Unova) 52
Heracross 52
Louie (Pikmin II) 52
Baby Mario 51
Eevee 51
Felix (Golden Sun) 51
Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden) 51
Jody Summer 50
Eggplant Wizard 50
Marx 49
Klonoa 48
Mallow (Super Mario RPG) 48
Ravio 47
Space Pirate 47
Pico 47
Eliwood 47
Flint 47
Matthew (Golden Sun) 47
Sukapon (Joy Mech Fight) 47
Rival Trainer 46
Toon Sheik 45
Serperior 45
Duster 45
Jack Frost (Shin Megami Tensei) 45
Chocobo (Final Fantasy) 44
Mallo (Pushmo) 43
Miku Hatsune (VOCALOID) 43
Darkai 42
Weavel 42
Leon 42
Mr. Resetti (Animal Crossing) 42
Nightmare (Soul Caliber) 42
Jill (Drill Dozer) 41
Dracula (Castlevania) 41
Moogle (Final Fantasy) 41
Typhlosion 40
Tyranitar 40
Deathborn 40
Wrestler (Rhythm Heaven) 39
Dark Matter 38
Aeron (Pandora's Tower) 38
Leon Kennedy (Resident Evil) 38
Chunky Kong 36
Tiny Kong 36
Brittany (Pikmin III) 36
Charlie (Pikmin III) 36
Tempo (Harmo Knight) 36
Gray Fox (Metal Gear) 36
Baby Luigi 35
Absol 35
Sylveon 34
Panther 34
Mumbo Jumbo (BanjoKazooie) 34
Lightning (Final Fantasy) 34
Demise 33
Soren 33
Hydreigon 32
KOS-MOS (Xenosaga) 32
Gooey 31
Pangoro 31
Gyarados 31
Plasm Wraith (Pikmin III) 31
Hero/Heroine + Eevee (Pokemon Conquest) 31
Chun Li (Street Fighter) 31
Baby Bowser 30
Classic Link 30
Goemon (Mystic Ninja) 30
Bubbles (Clu Clu Land) 29
Dr. Kawashima (Brain Age) 29
Zitz (Battletoads) 29
Metagross 28
Style Savvy 28
Gruntilda (BanjoKazooie) 28
Jill Valentine (Resident Evil) 28
Chef Kawasaki 27
Alex Roivas (Eternal Darkness) 27
Isa Jo (Sin & Punishment) 27
Yarn Kirby 26
Tyrantrum 26
Goku (from Yūyūki. You know, as opposed to that OTHER Goku) 26
Heihachi (Tekken) 26
Stanly the Bugman 25
Diancie 25
Rayquaza 25
Andross 25
Dr. Stewart 25
Shake King 24
Hilda 24
Leif 24
Sigurd 24
Hunter (Fossil Fighter) 24
Muddy Mole (Mole Mania) 24
Urban Champion 24
Zekrom 23
General Scales 23
Donkey Kong Junior 22
Lord Frederik 22
Agahnim 22
Milotic 22
Labrador / Grey Tabby (Nintendogs + Cats) 22
Lolo + Lala (Adventures of Lolo) 22
Daroach 21
Rick 21
Nobunaga + Hydreigon (Pokemon Conquest) 21
Ivy Valentine (Soul Caliber) 21
Medli 20
Ana 20
Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Detective Club pt. II) 20
Diskun (Famicom Disk System) 20
Lugia 19
Calista (The Last Story) 19
Ragna (Blazblue) 19
Orublon 18
Phantom Zelda 18
Yuga 18
Elincia 18
Ashley Robbins (Trace Memory / Another Road) 18
Sakura Samurai 18
Heracles (Glory of Heracles) 18
Jumpman 17
Espurr 17
Kyle Hyde (Hotel Dusk) 17
Donbe & Hikari (Shin Onigashima) 16
Hero (Magic Starsign / Vacation) 16
Lark (PilotWings) 16
Sheriff 16
Vince (Art Acadamy) 16
Vivillion 15
Ryota Hayami (Wave Race) 15
Ryuta (Ouendan) 15
Tamagon (Devil World) 15
Jin (Tekken) 15
Queen Sectonica 14
Zapdos 14
Caeda 14
Celice 14
Daitoryo (Hanafuda) 14
John Raimi (Geist) 14
Noel (Blazblue) 13
Giant Robot (Project Giant Robot) 12
Sol (Guilty Gear) 11
Alice (Balloon Kid) 10
Momohime (Muramasa: The Demon Blade) 10
Kiddie Kong 9
Demille (Tomato Adventure) 9
Devil (Devil World) 9
Dr. Lobe (Big Brain Acadamy) 9
Dr. Write (Sim City) 9
Harry (Teleroboxer) 9
Prince Richard (For the Frog the Bell Tolls) 9
Welt (Soma Bringer) 9
Taranza 8
Hardin 8
Miss Madaline (Magical Starsign) 8
Mokka (Magical Starsign) 8
Narbarl 7
Tin Star 6
Bridget (Guilty Gear) 6
The results of the first DLC poll are in, and Wolf has the most votes and his own tier.:joyful:Its clear people want him, now we just need him playable.
Here's the second DLC survey,
http://kwiksurveys.com/app/rendersurvey.asp?sid=l7xz9kv7oegh3nc484671&refer=smashboards
 

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I don't know if this makes any difference, but when registering my copy of Smash Bros. Brawl for Club Nintendo (since I was trying any way that I could to get more coins), I mentioned in the survey that I wanted Lucas, Wolf, and Snake to be brought back as DLC. It might not amount to much, but I figure that something might come of it if enough people do the same thing.
 

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Like Krystal, I am also a Wolf supporter here and I personally cannot forgive Sakurai for removing Wolf from the initial roster for some other characters like the Mii Fighters or Dark Pit for instance which were not even necessary. Anyway, aside from all that, like Fox and Krystal, he is also my favorite Starfox character in both the series and in Smash. I really enjoyed using him after all that and there were times that he would help me win matches in Brawl along with Fox. As of now, Wolf is pretty much the "Mewtwo" of Smash 4 since Mewtwo was removed from Brawl's roster after Melee and now he is coming back because of DLC. That is why I beleive that Mewtwo is not going to be the only DLC character that we are getting and we could get a few more and with Starfox Wii U over the horizon coming out this year(not to mention that Nintendo is making a big deal out of it even though we don't have any footage from the new game yet; along with Zelda and both of those games being compatible with Amiibos), this makes all of us Starfox supporters want to see Wolf for instance to come back as a playable character. I don't care if I have to pay 5 to 10 dollars(or even a bit more) just to get him for DLC. I just want to play with him once again for Smash 4. Besides, just because Fox has some of the moves in his customs doesn't mean that hinders Wolf at all to come back. Besides, some of the clone characters in Smash 4 happen to have the same movesets as their counterparts it's not even funny.

 
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Like Krystal, I am also a Wolf supporter here and I personally cannot forgive Sakurai for removing Wolf from the initial roster for some other characters like the Mii Fighters or Dark Pit for instance which were not even necessary. Anyway, aside from all that, like Fox and Krystal, he is also my favorite Starfox character in both the series and in Smash. I really enjoyed using him after all that and there were times that he would help me win matches in Brawl along with Fox. As of now, Wolf is pretty much the "Mewtwo" of Smash 4 since Mewtwo was removed from Brawl's roster after Melee and now he is coming back because of DLC. That is why I beleive that Mewtwo is not going to be the only DLC character that we are getting and we could get a few more and with Starfox Wii U over the horizon coming out this year(not to mention that Nintendo is making a big deal out of it even though we don't have any footage from the new game yet; along with Zelda and both of those games being compatible with Amiibos), this makes all of us Starfox supporters want to see Wolf for instance to come back as a playable character. I don't care if I have to pay 5 to 10 dollars(or even a bit more) just to get him for DLC. I just want to play with him once again for Smash 4. Besides, just because Fox has some of the moves in his customs doesn't mean that hinders Wolf at all to come back. Besides, some of the clone characters in Smash 4 happen to have the same movesets as their counterparts it's not even funny.
I wholly agree with you and I tried Dark Pit the other day and liked him but all of that aside you are right Wolf is the new Mewtwo of Smash and I think by the time StarFox Wii U releases Wolf will be revealed to be SSB4 DLC.
 

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"Witholding Content" was the only fear Sakurai had with DLC, not his health, like most people claim.
Plus we've found no character data on the disk, so there's nothing to prove those characters were planned or withheld, see what I mean, all we have is speculation, no hard evidence, and the game can clearly handle more DLC.
He said that just cause Namco is developing the game doesn't mean they get special treatment, and well they kind of did. Though Sakurai's trolling can be a bit unprofessional at times, he went a little too far with Ridley, not deconfirming him outright when he should have, but instead waiting and making it even worse for the Ridley fans. He never said Mewtwo is the only DLC, he just said he didn't have any plans at the moment, well that was 2 months ago, he's been quite on more DLC ever since. More DLC is clearly in high demand. Sakurai's fear of withholding content is the only concern Sakurai has expressed with DLC, not his health like so many people say ( Sakurai probably has ergonomics helping him out with his hand, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_factors_and_ergonomics) Since Sakurai scrubbed the disk of any leftover character data, we can't tell if anyone was truly withheld or not, so that means that there's no problems with doing more character DLC.
I wholly agree with you and I tried Dark Pit the other day and liked him but all of that aside you are right Wolf is the new Mewtwo of Smash and I think by the time StarFox Wii U releases Wolf will be revealed to be SSB4 DLC.
DLC can prevent there from being another "Mewtwo of smash" That's why we must push hard for Wolf DLC. ( and other DLC when the time comes)
 
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"Witholding Content" was the only fear Sakurai had with DLC, not his health, like most people claim.
Plus we've found no character data on the disk, so there's nothing to prove those characters were planned or withheld, see what I mean, all we have is speculation, no hard evidence, and the game can clearly handle more DLC.
He said that just cause Namco is developing the game doesn't mean they get special treatment, and well they kind of did. Though Sakurai's trolling can be a bit unprofessional at times, he went a little too far with Ridley, not deconfirming him outright when he should have, but instead waiting and making it even worse for the Ridley fans. He never said Mewtwo is the only DLC, he just said he didn't have any plans at the moment, well that was 2 months ago, he's been quite on more DLC ever since. More DLC is clearly in high demand. Sakurai's fear of withholding content is the only concern Sakurai has expressed with DLC, not his health like so many people say ( Sakurai probably has ergonomics helping him out with his hand, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_factors_and_ergonomics) Since Sakurai scrubbed the disk of any leftover character data, we can't tell if anyone was truly withheld or not, so that means that there's no problems with doing more character DLC.

DLC can prevent there from being another "Mewtwo of smash" That's why we must push hard for Wolf DLC. ( and other DLC when the time comes)
You mean quiet on DLC ever since? (the bolded part)

Hmmm, interesting. So I do hope Sakurai can overcome his fears, especially since there is a high demand for DLC. He has done things to please the fans before, and if he wants to continue doing so, I am sure adding more DLC would be a great way of pleasing the fans further more, don't you think?
 

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Tweeted the page out. Make us proud! :colorful:
Glad you did so.

Added the link to the main page, also it seems the update also allows sharing for the 3DS as well as amiibo functionality.
So it is on the main page? Cool.

Well, we're gonna need as much support as we can get for this Facebook page. With that said, I would suggest to anyone reading this post right now, you should get out there and get as many people as you can to like this Facebook page. We're gonna need that support. So find as many people as you can get, online or in real life, to show their support by liking the Facebook page, alright?
 

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Wolf cuts better than Sakurai does, he deserves to come back :wolf:
Add me as a supporter.
 
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