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Azen is awesome

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Lol M2K, you post something funny and it turns into a gay debate. Welcome to General Brawl Discussion.
 

SirPenguin

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I come here to say Azen is also a LLer, and seems a pretty cool guy.

I have nothing more to add.
 

MookieRah

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Lol M2K, you post something funny and it turns into a gay debate. Welcome to General Brawl Discussion.
It wasn't a gay debate, it was more a small discussion on how political correctness is bull**** and people need to focus on intentions rather than word choice.
eh luerks and doesn't afraid of anything.
I'm assuming this is some kind of lue links inside joke or something. Darn it Jack, don't be so cryptic!
 

ihavespaceblondes

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It's a combo of 4chan and lue.
"eh *does something* and doesn't afraid of anything" is a really bad 4chan meme.
Luerking is lurking on ll or lue.

Knowledge is power!
 

Phyvo

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That is taking political correctness to the extreme yo. Heck... I know gay dudes that have used the word "gay" that way. It's one thing to say the word, but what is really important really is what the person means behind it. People are so wrapped up these days with what words we use. The words themselves aren't bad, they are just a pattern of sounds we articulate. We should focus more on the intentions of the person who say the words.
This is sort of going off the rails, but...

Of course, there are situations where things said can hurt regardless of the speaker's intent.

For instance, say you wanted to employ some real extreme pseudo-sarcasm. Your friend asks for a complements and instead you insult him. This is the type of thing where it REALLY matters what you say, and even if your intentions were good you might still have to apologize later.

That's why I generally don't go for that kind of sarcasm. It's a dangerous form of humor and only gets more dangerous the less you know a person.

Anyways, /end random tangent informing everyone of what they should already know.
 

MookieRah

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For instance, say you wanted to employ some real extreme pseudo-sarcasm. Your friend asks for a complements and instead you insult him. This is the type of thing where it REALLY matters what you say, and even if your intentions were good you might still have to apologize later.

That's why I generally don't go for that kind of sarcasm. It's a dangerous form of humor and only gets more dangerous the less you know a person.
There is a time and a place for everything. Of course you don't randomly start saying things that could be insulted. Like for instance, I'm the whitest whitey of all the white guys in white town, but sometimes I randomly go into ebonics mode and bust out a "dis ***** is crazy" usually in reference to of someone that obviously isn't black. I don't do this around people I don't know, because it could potentially be harmful; however, if the people know me well enough then they know that I like to do random shock humor jokes that tend to push the envelope a bit.

I'm not saying that you should just say anything you want at any time and not worried about what you say and how it affects people, I'm just saying political correctness is BS overall. If people just gave each other a handful of respect that is all it takes, you don't have to tip toe around calling someone a caucasian if they are a white guy. Or calling a black guy an African American for that matter. Referring to someone as such is just a way to describe a physical feature. Again, the intentions and how the word is said is way more important than the words you use.

But yeah, this tangent may be off topic, but considering the topic it should be alright XD.
 

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I think the real reason all the scrubs are getting upset by this is that it confirms combos for brawl. I love the way no one gets into a discussion about the political correctness of "tourney***" but as soon as a competitive player says gay everyone has to cry about it while masturbating to gay porn using their tears as lubricant.
 
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There is a time and a place for everything. Of course you don't randomly start saying things that could be insulted. Like for instance, I'm the whitest whitey of all the white guys in white town, but sometimes I randomly go into ebonics mode and bust out a "dis ***** is crazy" usually in reference to of someone that obviously isn't black. I don't do this around people I don't know, because it could potentially be harmful; however, if the people know me well enough then they know that I like to do random shock humor jokes that tend to push the envelope a bit.

I'm not saying that you should just say anything you want at any time and not worried about what you say and how it affects people, I'm just saying political correctness is BS overall. If people just gave each other a handful of respect that is all it takes, you don't have to tip toe around calling someone a caucasian if they are a white guy. Or calling a black guy an African American for that matter. Referring to someone as such is just a way to describe a physical feature. Again, the intentions and how the word is said is way more important than the words you use.

But yeah, this tangent may be off topic, but considering the topic it should be alright XD.
This is good and all. Thanks for retaining the stupidity.

But, i'm gonna stay out of this one...I have a bad habbit of getting into these arguments with uninformed people or political nazi's.

I'm done with arguing for a while. I'm sleepy. XD
 

E-Z-MONEY

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This thread is funny for a multitude of reasons.

1. Miraculous. Nuff said.
2. The Anti-PC control. THey are the biggest hypocrits like ever. PC, or more aptly named NBJ (Not being a jerk) or Tact, is just not saying things that offend people when you don't have to. Like using gay as an adjective to mean bad. You sould have said stupid, bad or lame. But no you decided to be a jerk. One person says that it really isn't polite and everyone is all "Stop being PC!" like it was a sin to care about other peoples feelings. People act as if being polite or considerate in any way means that you are infringing on freedom of speech. God you guys are whiny.
3. Mookie I require a picture of you this instant. I need to get the full visual of you saying that. It would be awesome.
 

MookieRah

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The Anti-PC control. THey are the biggest hypocrits like ever.
How am I being a hypocrite? How am I more hypocritical than those who are saying I'm wrong for claiming that the MESSAGE people are saying is more important than the WORDS they use? Are you saying I'm a hypocrite because sometimes I use more "PC" words based on my situation? I'm not dumb, like I said, I adjust my speech according to my situation. If you are knocking me for this... aren't you also a hypocrite? I'm sure you've said some very non-PC stuff when you were with a group of friends. That's just how we are.

I for one don't see the need to constantly be extremely formal with my speech, or to demand that to EVERYONE ELSE, which is where the problem lies. I have no problem with people who choose to speak in that manner, that is their perogative; however, if someone gets onto me for using a curse word and tell me instead to replace the s word (I would spell it out, but these forums will censor it) with crap... That is BS! If I instead said crap... my message, my REAL message, would be the EXACT SAME. All I did was chose to use a different sounds to articulate the same message...
Like using gay as an adjective to mean bad. You sould have said stupid, bad or lame. But no you decided to be a jerk.
No. You decided to call me a jerk just because of the word I used. You were VERY much aware of my actual message, yet you choose to go after me due to semantics. I pointed out that even gay people use the word gay in this manner. Gennie even backed me up on this. The fact of the matter is... you are so worried about other peoples feelings, that you are defending people from things they just aren't offended by. You are making a huge deal out of something so trivial. Then you claim that I am the one being a jerk.
People act as if being polite or considerate in any way means that you are infringing on freedom of speech.
I am considerate. I'm not a jerk. If you read what I have posted you would realize that. The thing is, someone got upset over the usage of a word. A word that is commonly used. A word that is used so often that it doesn't even have "power" behind it anymore. The fact that they made a big deal out of it in an attempt to ostracize someone for using it is a mild form of censorship. Honestly, the fact the the FCC EXISTS is against freedom of speech.

Think for a second. If I said the exact same message in different words, is my message any different? Is someone that calls you a sack of crap any better than someone calling you a sack of ****? Does someone using lighter sugar coated words filled with anger not carry the same sting as using curse words? The message is the same. I'm not a jerk for using words. If anyone is a jerk for the words they use, it's because the MESSAGE of their words.
God you guys are whiny.
Nobody was whining. That is until someone jumped on someone for using the word "gay." I merely called BS on them, and it's turned into a debate.
Okay Mookster. I give you official permission to say that because it is freaking hilarious to imagine.
This is my entire point. You get the humor in playfully switching to ebonics and saying something that contrasts my amazing whitness. That's the whole point in why I would say it, because it's so not typical of what people would expect, and it's obvious that I don't carry any racist connotations with it. That said, given everything you posted, isn't that against your stance on political correctness?


I know what all I just said sounded pretty heated. I wasn't trying to pick you apart like that cause I was offended, but I was just trying to further my point. Again, I'd like to point out that by saying this I do not advocate just saying whatever you want regardless of the situation. Tact is something one should have, but it shouldn't govern everything you say at every given moment either. I say that because I do realize that some people are offended by words. I do think it's lame that they are offended by the words, but not the message. People need to lighten up.
 

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yall cats r ****** lol
what did you say about us cats

The words themselves aren't bad, they are just a pattern of sounds we articulate. We should focus more on the intentions of the person who say the words.
i agree with everything mookie said, except for the parts about words no longer having power or meaning. its all contextual. show me a word that has no more power and ill give you a new perspective. the word "gay" still has meaning, as both a synonym for homosexuality AND slang for "stupid." like all definitions, the context is key -- you have you take into consideration why he chose that word. Obviously m2k or whoever said "gay" because they were using the slang bit, not the homosexuality bit. So if you can't read context clues, you will get offended. hopefully so offended that you die, so the rest of us can do science.

all in all, really, i would like to see the word "gay" stop being a synonym for "stupid." it doesn't bother me because i'm trying to be politically correct, and it doesn't bother me because I'm gay (wait... is that a loaded statement? ;P), but it bothers me, and SHOULD bother more of you, because its the degradation of a word like that. Now i know i just went on a rampage about the power of words being contextual, but certain words shouldn't run the meaning gamut. If a word is so politically loaded like "gay," we shouldn't have to have these problems.

/british_accent

"Its the decline of the Queen's English, I tell you."
 

E-Z-MONEY

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How am I being a hypocrite? How am I more hypocritical than those who are saying I'm wrong for claiming that the MESSAGE people are saying is more important than the WORDS they use? Are you saying I'm a hypocrite because sometimes I use more "PC" words based on my situation? I'm not dumb, like I said, I adjust my speech according to my situation. If you are knocking me for this... aren't you also a hypocrite? I'm sure you've said some very non-PC stuff when you were with a group of friends. That's just how we are.
Actually. I meant the other ones. Not you. You were perfectly rational about it. I agree that the message is more important as is knowing whether people will be offended. THe only problem with this is that the internet is a public place and a lot of people are really bad at infering things. Some people will infer way to much and go over board while others will take things exactly as they are said. It's the reason sarcasm starts fights on the internet. Say whatever you want with your friends or in private forums. When it is done in a place where you don't know whether people will be offended that a problem arises. I don't know you aren't racist. I can fairly easily assume that you aren't because most people on the internet aren't but even then you never know. The internet is where innocence and hope in humanity comes to die.
I for one don't see the need to constantly be extremely formal with my speech, or to demand that to EVERYONE ELSE, which is where the problem lies. I have no problem with people who choose to speak in that manner, that is their perogative; however, if someone gets onto me for using a curse word and tell me instead to replace the s word (I would spell it out, but these forums will censor it) with crap... That is BS! If I instead said crap... my message, my REAL message, would be the EXACT SAME. All I did was chose to use a different sounds to articulate the same message...
I agree so much it's scary. I have come this close to screaming at people because they made me stop swearing around kids.

No. You decided to call me a jerk just because of the word I used. You were VERY much aware of my actual message, yet you choose to go after me due to semantics. I pointed out that even gay people use the word gay in this manner. Gennie even backed me up on this. The fact of the matter is... you are so worried about other peoples feelings, that you are defending people from things they just aren't offended by. You are making a huge deal out of something so trivial. Then you claim that I am the one being a jerk.
Ironically, I hadn't read most of your post before I posted. I was talking about the people on the first page who were berating the guy who said that using gay to mean bad was rude. I actually agree with you. It's the Message and intent that matter but as I stated above these aren't always easy to infer.
I am considerate. I'm not a jerk. If you read what I have posted you would realize that. The thing is, someone got upset over the usage of a word. A word that is commonly used. A word that is used so often that it doesn't even have "power" behind it anymore. The fact that they made a big deal out of it in an attempt to ostracize someone for using it is a mild form of censorship. Honestly, the fact the the FCC EXISTS is against freedom of speech.
The thing is it does have power to some people. That is why this argument started. It obviously offends some people and can hurt feelings. While being gay is much more accepted in this day and age there is still some stigma about it and calling anything bad gay isn't exactly helping.

This is my entire point. You get the humor in playfully switching to ebonics and saying something that contrasts my amazing whitness. That's the whole point in why I would say it, because it's so not typical of what people would expect, and it's obvious that I don't carry any racist connotations with it. That said, given everything you posted, isn't that against your stance on political correctness?
Oh I'm all for saying whatever the hell you want to people it won't offend. GO for it. Especially when it is obviously not intended to hurt someones feelings. However if you said "dat ***** is crazy" on the internet then I don't know you. You could easily be a member of the KKK for all I know. However you said you didn't do that so even if you do say it now I can just laugh really hard.
I know what all I just said sounded pretty heated. I wasn't trying to pick you apart like that cause I was offended, but I was just trying to further my point. Again, I'd like to point out that by saying this I do not advocate just saying whatever you want regardless of the situation. Tact is something one should have, but it shouldn't govern everything you say at every given moment either. I say that because I do realize that some people are offended by words. I do think it's lame that they are offended by the words, but not the message. People need to lighten up.
Not at all. I realize my post seemed a little more insulting then intended. You were perfectly in line. I agree with you completely. But again the message can be vague when you don't know the person and can't hear their voice to tell what they mean. The internet let's you see what your mind wants you to see and a lot of people like arguing on the internet and feeling justified.

Oh and I got to talk with Mookie. I am ecstatic.
 
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