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[ballin4life]

Use nair for yoshi not fair. Other than that it's just getting the timing down to do perfect yoshi djc nairs (which is pretty tough by itself).

 

[asianaussie]

It's not too hard on the spot. Moving forward with it is the hard part.

Also, the aerials with no landing lag are Ness's U-Air + D-Air and Pika's U-Air, IIRC. Jiggs' D-Air has minimal landing lag, so the Z-cancel can be missed in favour of the small extra hitstun provided by the landing...I think. Not too good with ness.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

Well... there is one use for not z-cancelling aerials... it lets you get one more hit. Though in most cases, that extra hit is not worth the landing lag (puff's dair being an exception since she has little landing lag to the opponent's extra lag). Though if you wanted to be extra technical, that extra hit of landing lag could be the difference in a shield breaker of only Dair...

 

[SSBPete]

kk thanks guys. its just when i shield breaker with ness i never z-cancle and it still works so i just thought i was getting the timing wrong with yoshi.

 

[SmashBrosForce]

How can I record SSB64 matches through Dazzle ?

 

[RPGsFTW]

Anyone else play Smash 64 as a VC wad on their Wii? It's fun using a GameCube controller, however it sucks not having a C-stick to do aerials. C-stick ****in jumps. /rage

Anyone? It's almost like having it on the console, or it seems to be the closest thing, if not the same, with a different controller. =P

 

[Grahf]

I can't play this game online for a while now since I've been broke AND credit cardless to buy myself a super joy 13 gamecube usb adapter controller off the interwebz for a good while now....I'm wondering how reliable is practicing true combos on NPCs in training mode for when I get out there and play people online for the first time when I get a usb controller? Since I can practice this on my Wii with a gamecube controller and wad manager goodness.

So my question is how useful is practicing true combo strings on NPCs set to "Stand" in training mode? Is it as useless as practicing in Bawrl or semi-useless like practicing in Melee will generally DI break your combos if they're good? Where is practicing in Training mode on the continuum of how much it'll help me when I get a usb adapter and able to play real opponents?

 

[Skrlx]

I can't play this game online for a while now since I've been broke AND credit cardless to buy myself a super joy 13 gamecube usb adapter controller off the interwebz for a good while now....I'm wondering how reliable is practicing true combos on NPCs in training mode for when I get out there and play people online for the first time when I get a usb controller? Since I can practice this on my Wii with a gamecube controller and wad manager goodness.

So my question is how useful is practicing true combo strings on NPCs set to "Stand" in training mode? Is it as useless as practicing in Bawrl or semi-useless like practicing in Melee will generally DI break your combos if they're good? Where is practicing in Training mode on the continuum of how much it'll help me when I get a usb adapter and able to play real opponents?

If you play Melee or Brawl and wanting to play SSB64 don't use a GC controller. It'll **** up your memory muscle. Invest money on a N64 controller adapter

 

[Fireblaster]

Anyone else play Smash 64 as a VC wad on their Wii? It's fun using a GameCube controller, however it sucks not having a C-stick to do aerials. C-stick ****in jumps. /rage

Anyone? It's almost like having it on the console, or it seems to be the closest thing, if not the same, with a different controller. =P

The gamecube controller is horrible for SSB64. It doesn't feel like the actual console at all.

 

[Grahf]

I'll look into getting a different controller...that makes really good sense.

What about the combo question about training mode?

 

[RPGsFTW]

The gamecube controller is horrible for SSB64. It doesn't feel like the actual console at all.

Well it must be for you, I guess, but I like it. The only thing I don't like about it is that you can't use the c-stick for aerials, but that's understandable because I don't know if anything could be set for aerials like that.

I'm also not really affected when switching from Brawl+ to 64, because I play them so often. Should sort of be the same with switching to any amount of multiple fighting games at one time.

 

[MattNF]

I have both an N64 and GC adapter, and I agree that N64 is better

Only downside to N64 controllers are the bad analog sticks.

 

[TANK64]

I'll look into getting a different controller...that makes really good sense.

What about the combo question about training mode?

training mode practice is good, especially if you don't know what works at certain percent. Take you character/characters into training mode, and mess around with that. you might as well know what's in hit stun or not. Yes, people are probably going to DI out of lots of your "legit" combos, but they sure as hell are going to DI/break out of your non-legit combos. So yes, training mode in this game matters a lot more than in Melee. Also- 64 controller is the best.
........Oh, and fighting real people really helps too

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Am I not looking hard enough or is it impossible to turn items off?

I got Smash 64 for VC a while ago cause it came out here and I'd never really got chance to play it before but I think I've checked everywhere and I can't find an option that lets you turn items off or even turn specific items off

Am I a frooby nooby and completely missing out on something?

 

[Zen Yore]

play 50 or 100 (cant remember) VS mode matches to unlock Item Switch.

 

[-Axis-]

What keyboard configuration do most people use when they don't have a controller?

In other words, id like some suggestions.

 

[asianaussie]

lol...I use the default PJ64k one with spacebar as C-button for short hops.

I suggest you experiment, many people prefer control stick buttons on their left.

 

[Deleted member]

when i used to kb i used all defaults with left c-button on caps lock

 

[Xivii]

What keyboard configuration do most people use when they don't have a controller?

In other words, id like some suggestions.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=240734&highlight=keyboard+controls

 

[Lawrencelot]

In case someone needs help with shieldbreaking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haD52_pTme8

 

[SheerMadness]

Shield breaking is for noobs.

 

[Grahf]

Why would you post that garbage on 64 forum Q&A thread? Had to 1-Star bomb it for video-whoreisms.

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

the only good followup in that video was the fludd pushoff

 

[kuenzel]

I've been logging into Emularena for a few days now and its been empty...
Is everyone on a different server or is Kaillera just not active anymore?

 

[Gammelnorsk]

kuenzel washington

 

[kuenzel]

kuenzel washington

No way. NO WAY! ITS YOU??
Dude, its been like 3 years since that kaillera game....

anywho, I think I found the server you guys are all at (Galaxy 64), but my controller wont work if I join someone else's game. It still works offline and in my own hosted game though...

Using N-Rage's Direct Input8 V2 1.83

Edit: I switched to Jabo's and its working now but is there any explanation to the problem with N-Rage's?

 

[House]

No way. NO WAY! ITS YOU??
Dude, its been like 3 years since that kaillera game....

anywho, I think I found the server you guys are all at (Galaxy 64), but my controller wont work if I join someone else's game. It still works offline and in my own hosted game though...

Using N-Rage's Direct Input8 V2 1.83

Edit: I switched to Jabo's and its working now but is there any explanation to the problem with N-Rage's?

You and the other player need to untick the "Raw data" option at controller settings.

 

[Gammelnorsk]

what are u talking about lol

ive only played since like march

i just thot ur name looked like dat

 

[kuenzel]

You and the other player need to untick the "Raw data" option at controller settings.

Worked, thanks.

what are u talking about lol

ive only played since like march

i just thot ur name looked like dat

Oh. One guy said that to me like 3 years ago on an online 64 match. sorry.

 

[kuenzel]

EDIT: **** double post sorry!

 

[dch111]

Situation:

Falcon v. Falcon
Mushroom Kingdom

Enemy Falcon is positioned on the right side past the warp pipe, perfect for a dashgrab should you try to land anywhere past the pipe. But he is also far enough that you can't hit him with a low air attack or kick without getting shieldgrabbed.

What do you do?

I've tried baiting by canceling an aerial next to the pipe then doing something like Usmash or tilts when the other Falcon comes in but it's never fast enough...the positioning is good enough to ensure the dashgrab no matter what I do. Should I just wait on the other side, and neither of us act? Then again, that would almost be like implying the optimal play is just to camp somewhere, and smash is solved to be very boring. There's just no way to approach though...and I'd rather not die from a single Bthrow at 0%.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

Use an aerial, abuse shield hitstun and grab him.

 

[Nybb]

Don't play on Mushroom Kingdom with people who are actually desperate to win

 

[Dajayman]

How the hell do you shdl with Fox? I haven't been able to get it once in normal speed, not even in 2/3 speed. Any tips on doing it? It's driving me insane.

For now I suppose I'll settle for shsl's...

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

falcon kick

 

[Daedatheus]

Use an aerial, abuse shield hitstun and grab him.

Don't play on Mushroom Kingdom with people who are actually desperate to win

falcon kick

All of these

 

[ballin4life]

How the hell do you shdl with Fox? I haven't been able to get it once in normal speed, not even in 2/3 speed. Any tips on doing it? It's driving me insane.

For now I suppose I'll settle for shsl's...

The important part is getting the first laser to come out as soon as possible so slide your thumb from left c to b

 

[Blue Yoshi]

adding to ballin's post, the sooner you use your first laser, the more time you have left for your second laser. Waiting too long to use your first laser means you will not be able to shdl.

 

[dch111]

Use an aerial, abuse shield hitstun and grab him.

Forgot to mention, in this case he doesn't shield, he moves out of the way then dashgrabs. As soon as I Z-cancel, I get grabbed.

Don't play on Mushroom Kingdom with people who are actually desperate to win

I would, but they'd just accuse me of being unfun.

falcon kick

In this case he shields, and just shieldgrabs me, one of the couple advanced techniques he knows.



...maybe I should just dashdance on the left side of the pipe and not approach, and try to show that is his strategy, and is what's really unfun.

 

[ballin4life]

If you know he's gonna dashdance grab then fake an approach and dash dance grab his dd grab