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Blue Yoshi
Smash Master
by auto-cancel... do you mean have no landing lag during the attack even without z-cancelling?
RPGsFTW
Smash Ace
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If I were to play this online could I use a C-stick that does attacks, rather than jumps? Otherwise, I find it very hard to Uair close to the ground without accidentally jumping when pushing Up+A.
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Also, about Smash 64 textures. How often are they used, and how are they applied if I wanted to use them?
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Also, about Smash 64 textures. How often are they used, and how are they applied if I wanted to use them?
asianaussie
Smash Hero
On the subject of textures, they're basically never used online. This is because the loading and application takes a lot of time, and (from what I've done) it seems to promote desynches. I've never actually gotten into the playing part when I try textures online (even if my opponent has the same textures). However, don't quote me on this.
Offline is a different story. You need a texture pack and specific plugins, then some option tweaking. This is the way I got it running:
You need Project64 1.6, a downloaded texture pack, The SSB64 ROM, Mudlord's Rice Video Plugin Build and BMG.dll, which is downloadable through Google (I found it there).
Your Project64 folder should have several folders in it, including one called Plugin. Extract Mudlord's Rice Video Plugin into that folder. Now create a folder called 'hires_texture' in that same folder. Extract your Texture Pack (it should be a folder called "SMASH BROTHERS", if it isn't start again) into hires_texture.
Finally,put BMG.dll into your main PJ64 folder (the one with the execution file). Now enter Project 64. Go into Options > Settings, and change the Video (graphics) plugin into Mudlord's Rice Video Build. Press OK. Go into Options > Configure Graphics Plugin. Select the Texture Filter tab, then tick the box marked:
[] Load high detail textures if available
Once you've done this, click OK again and run SSB64. If done right, a black screen with a white loading message should appear, and filenames should speed across the screen.
Offline is a different story. You need a texture pack and specific plugins, then some option tweaking. This is the way I got it running:
You need Project64 1.6, a downloaded texture pack, The SSB64 ROM, Mudlord's Rice Video Plugin Build and BMG.dll, which is downloadable through Google (I found it there).
Your Project64 folder should have several folders in it, including one called Plugin. Extract Mudlord's Rice Video Plugin into that folder. Now create a folder called 'hires_texture' in that same folder. Extract your Texture Pack (it should be a folder called "SMASH BROTHERS", if it isn't start again) into hires_texture.
Finally,put BMG.dll into your main PJ64 folder (the one with the execution file). Now enter Project 64. Go into Options > Settings, and change the Video (graphics) plugin into Mudlord's Rice Video Build. Press OK. Go into Options > Configure Graphics Plugin. Select the Texture Filter tab, then tick the box marked:
[] Load high detail textures if available
Once you've done this, click OK again and run SSB64. If done right, a black screen with a white loading message should appear, and filenames should speed across the screen.
hello, ive been playing ssb64 forever, but i never really got THAT good because none of my friends could consistantly beat me. If i had to rate myself according to some list i found here I would say a solid 4, poss 5a, but i doubt it. Im looking to start playing online. I believe i have ssb64 set up correctly thru p64k, but i cant connect to the server listed in the online play guide. What server has fairly consistent people playing?
Also, on a side note, Im on a mac running p64k thru vmfusion on XP, Im using a sumoto usb->n64 connector. Ive heard that I could use mupen64k on my mac, but i havent found a current downloadable version anywhere, it seems that the project is on hold?
any help would be great, i love ssb64
Also, on a side note, Im on a mac running p64k thru vmfusion on XP, Im using a sumoto usb->n64 connector. Ive heard that I could use mupen64k on my mac, but i havent found a current downloadable version anywhere, it seems that the project is on hold?
any help would be great, i love ssb64
ballin4life
Smash Hero
You should be able to search for servers with the Kailera client
Galaxy 64 is probably the best server unless your European. Also, I personally recommend Project 64k much more than Mupen 64k, simply because much more people use Project. See the sticky for the I.P.
Also, look up Kailera P2P, this is a lag-free version of Kailera.
RPGsFTW
Smash Ace
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^Answer please. Also, what is the easiest way to shield grab? I play Smash 64 as VC game on my Wii, lol wads, and shield grabbing is either very hard to do, or it doesn't work.
ballin4life
Smash Hero
Hold z and press A. That's it.
There's a ton of stun though when someone hits your shield so it's not as good of a technique (often they can grab you before you can shield grab them).
There's a ton of stun though when someone hits your shield so it's not as good of a technique (often they can grab you before you can shield grab them).
Mahie
Smash Lord
Shieldgrabbing : Shield => Press A.
As for Cstick for smash attacks/aerials as in Melee, I don't think it's impossible to do but... I don't actually know.
Edit : ballin4life was faster.
im from california, US. I had another small problem, when i try to play ssb64 via emulator, and i try to select a character, its really hard because the selection hand disappears, i can still choose them, its just really difficult. is this a known issue? or is there a fix or am i just dumb haha
DMoogle
A$
You need to update your graphics driver.
House
Smash Journeyman
Default graphics plugin has that and many other gfx issues.
Skrlx
Smash Champion
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That would be correct :3
Blue Yoshi
Smash Master
don't flame, don't troll, don't spam, and most importantly, don't have fun. Other than that, you should be good. 
1. Ignore the trolls
2. Have less than 100 ping or you won't find a match
3. Have no la
4. Be kind to the members who have been on for a very long time (the veterans)
5. Chat when not playing, don't spam.
6. Don't main kirby....
Mahie
Smash Lord
I fixed it
Blue Yoshi
Smash Master
just be nice, and you'll do well. There's no special etiquette or anything like that. People who aren't nice usually find themselves with no one wanting to play with them.
Sorry but this is stupid.
Its pointless to not play people just because their ping is 100 or higher.
THEY have the delay, not you.
Just because someone has a high ping doesnt mean they have to lag. They are different things
SmashThugZ
Smash Journeyman
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Yes, that's just pingism.
Stop hating on us people with 109 pings.
I don't lag, I just endure the delay set upon me.
If I did lag, I wouldn't burden anyone with it and just quit playing altogether.
On a real topic:
Can anyone confirm if playing with LAN connection reduce/get rid of delay?
I could swear the few times I tried it, I felt no delay at all, and it also made the game feel like turbo,
like playing Super Street Fighter II TURBO!
Stop hating on us people with 109 pings.
I don't lag, I just endure the delay set upon me.
If I did lag, I wouldn't burden anyone with it and just quit playing altogether.
On a real topic:
Can anyone confirm if playing with LAN connection reduce/get rid of delay?
I could swear the few times I tried it, I felt no delay at all, and it also made the game feel like turbo,
like playing Super Street Fighter II TURBO!
The kaillera client tells you the delay each time you start a match. LAN connection usually reduces the delay by 1/2 frames depending of your ping. In my case, i have a 140 ping on Galaxy 64 (Former EGX) and i get 9 frames on LAN and 11 on Excellent.
SmashThugZ
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So that could mean Im getting like 9 frames on Excellent, and 7 frames on LAN.
I guess the switch from 9 to 7 is too good. Haha.
I guess the switch from 9 to 7 is too good. Haha.
Daedatheus
Smash Lord
But both of those amounts of delay are still terrible. 2-3 frames is where it's at, play people closer to you.
SmashThugZ
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I know lower frames is good, but I can't get that since I play in the East coast server, where everyone else is.
it's either that or go to some random West coast server and host and wait for who knows how long for someone to join.
Besides, 9 frames can be terrible, but it's not unplayable. At least it's enough for me to still win
it's either that or go to some random West coast server and host and wait for who knows how long for someone to join.
Besides, 9 frames can be terrible, but it's not unplayable. At least it's enough for me to still win
Daedatheus
Smash Lord
Use P2P! Much less lag, much better games. 9 frames is pretty high man... I can't imagine trying to play Fox decently on 9 frames.I know lower frames is good, but I can't get that since I play in the East coast server, where everyone else is.
it's either that or go to some random West coast server and host and wait for who knows how long for someone to join.
Besides, 9 frames can be terrible, but it's not unplayable. At least it's enough for me to still win
But yeah use P2P, it's worth any effort required.
SmashThugZ
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I just like to play some quick games.
And like I said, I don't play to my full game, but it's still enough.
Playing on p2p would require too much interaction and time.
And like I said, I don't play to my full game, but it's still enough.
Playing on p2p would require too much interaction and time.
D
Deleted member
Guest
no it doesnt
you just put the ip in and join and click start to play
you just put the ip in and join and click start to play
dch111
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I have a question about the kinds of DI in SSB64, if anyone would care to enlighten:
is the "slide DI" in ant-d's thread the same as the "quarter-circle" DI mentioned in the Smashwiki?
and what is "x2 DI" in relation to that (youtube vids mention it as a somewhat newly discovered technique that allows twice as much DI as before. In ant-d's thread, he mentions slide DI getting twice as many DI frames as smash DI. the concepts sound related)?
is the "slide DI" in ant-d's thread the same as the "quarter-circle" DI mentioned in the Smashwiki?
and what is "x2 DI" in relation to that (youtube vids mention it as a somewhat newly discovered technique that allows twice as much DI as before. In ant-d's thread, he mentions slide DI getting twice as many DI frames as smash DI. the concepts sound related)?
Blue Yoshi
Smash Master
I would guess slide DI is the same as "quarter-circle" DI, since it's essencially the same.
As for the "x2 DI", he was mainly saying it in terms of tool-assisted DI. If you go frame by frame of the best DI to the right with smash DI, it's "Right on 1", "Centre on 2", Right on 3", "Centre on 4", etc. As you can see, every second frame, he goes right, with the other frame doing nothing. If you go frame by frame of the best DI to the right with slide DI, it's "Up-Right on 1", "Down-Right on 2", "Up-Right on 3", "Down-Right on 4", etc. Now, in each frame, there is movement to the right, as opposed to every second frame with smash DI. This is where the x2 DI comes from.
Though one thing I don't know since I don't do TAS videos is if slide DI goes double the distance as smash DI. If you look at it from a mathematical point of view, going "Up-Right" to "Down-Right" makes you go diagonally. If every frame you DI makes you go a constant distance, then slide DI would make you go (squareroot of 2) times farther as smash DI. This is not important to know unless you do TAS videos.
As for the "x2 DI", he was mainly saying it in terms of tool-assisted DI. If you go frame by frame of the best DI to the right with smash DI, it's "Right on 1", "Centre on 2", Right on 3", "Centre on 4", etc. As you can see, every second frame, he goes right, with the other frame doing nothing. If you go frame by frame of the best DI to the right with slide DI, it's "Up-Right on 1", "Down-Right on 2", "Up-Right on 3", "Down-Right on 4", etc. Now, in each frame, there is movement to the right, as opposed to every second frame with smash DI. This is where the x2 DI comes from.
Though one thing I don't know since I don't do TAS videos is if slide DI goes double the distance as smash DI. If you look at it from a mathematical point of view, going "Up-Right" to "Down-Right" makes you go diagonally. If every frame you DI makes you go a constant distance, then slide DI would make you go (squareroot of 2) times farther as smash DI. This is not important to know unless you do TAS videos.
House
Smash Journeyman
Quarter Circle DI = x2 DI
It is essentially called Quarter-Circle DI due to the way it's executed (you repeatedly do quarter circles with the analog stick, as mentioned at the end of the second paragraph):
In a "frame perfect" world, this would be the most effective way of DIing at smash 64, as no frames are being wasted.
At the movement... Shoryuken
SSBPete
Smash Lord
random question -
when playing yoshi the only way i can shield break is by djcing a full dair or a full dair when their on a platform. do you have to z-cancle when doing a shield breaker combo such as fair fair fair usmash?
when playing yoshi the only way i can shield break is by djcing a full dair or a full dair when their on a platform. do you have to z-cancle when doing a shield breaker combo such as fair fair fair usmash?
asianaussie
Smash Hero
Of course you do...otherwise you can just grab Yoshi, jump away, or even roll away. You always Z-cancel so you can make full use of shieldstun. More or less every single aerial should be Z-cancelled, because (except in a few cases, eg. Jiggs' D-Air) there is no reason not to do so.
I'd use N-Air in place of F-Air myself if I ever tried to shield-break with Yoshi...but I can't quite get it unless I play console or keyboard P2P...
I'd use N-Air in place of F-Air myself if I ever tried to shield-break with Yoshi...but I can't quite get it unless I play console or keyboard P2P...
DMoogle
A$
I'm pretty sure that there are some aerials that have zero landing lag. Ness' dair and uair and Pika's uair come to mind.