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[ballin4life]

Why doesn't everyone use the automatic 5 stock no items gameshark code?

 

[sharksquail]

because you have to show them your moves, when you navigate the menus.

 

[dandan]

i will help however i can, you can make it mandatory to play on server and not online and be able to stream, and maybe do another tourney with p2p allowed and make it mandatory to record the game, and then you can capture it and upload it to youtube.
i have a commentary channel on youtube, you can check it out at ssb64commentary. could be cool to commentate the finals or something like that.
i do not have much time these days, but will try to assist however i can.

 

[sharksquail]

Is it ok to host an online smash 64 tourny for money? Like the Winner gets the prize through paypal or check? If so I've got some ideas of hosting some online cash tourny's I just need to get into contact with
some of the good online tournament organizers here like MATTS maybe.

you're gonna have a hard time getting ppl to give their money to a stranger on the internet.

 

[NovaSmash]

Perfect idea dandan with having the third person to stream. I'm just a little worried
about the people that would rather use p2p and the lag Johns that may be associated with
streaming. But I think I'll make it mandatory to either be streamed or recorded so that
everyone would know it was legit. I'm thiking of hosting a $50.00 first place cash tournament
really soon I hope this turns out good even though $50.00 isn't much it will go up. I want to
start hosting them like every 2 weeks or so and the average prize will be $100.00 or more,
I'm also thinking of making 2nd and 3rd place winners receive cash also. Dandan will you be willing to help me set this up? Oh and one more thing I'm gonna make it so that you don't
have to pay to enter, all of the money is gonna be coming straight out of my pocket and I'm
doing it as a service to the smash64 community.

wats the point, malva, boomfan and jaimeHR would win the money everytime unless someone else gets real good

 

[Battlecow]

That's damn nice of you.

Superboomfan/maybe malva will be very thankful after a few weeks of that

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

You can do stream through the AQZ plugin. The two people can p2p fine while the third person spectates the match, I don't think it increases delay unless you have a controller plugged in.

 

[xx0EleMenT0xx]

You can do stream through the AQZ plugin. The two people can p2p fine while the third person spectates the match, I don't think it increases delay unless you have a controller plugged in.

Thanks for this I will be testing this out tonight. Also for the people that keep saying
malva/boom/jaimehr will always win maybe that is true but I think that this
would bring out more people to compete and the people that used to play competitively
may come back and play for cash since its totally free to enter like maybe Johnny-mc
or Gunz or many more. You guys are forgetting to put MATTS in your list also.

 

[NovaSmash]

Thanks for this I will be testing this out tonight. Also for the people that keep saying
malva/boom/jaimehr will always win maybe that is true but I think that this
would bring out more people to compete and the people that used to play competitively
may come back and play for cash since its totally free to enter like maybe Johnny-mc
or Gunz or many more. You guys are forgetting to put MATTS in your list also.

lol MATTS!, he gets 5 stocked by jaimeHR, i dont think he would ever win a tourney with those guys in it. But it would be cool if ppl like johnny, tigerbombz and s2j would come back and play online.

 

[Battlecow]

Whatever happens, it's really nice of you to do this for the community. Boom and Malva deserve some cash lol.

 

[dandan]

You can do stream through the AQZ plugin. The two people can p2p fine while the third person spectates the match, I don't think it increases delay unless you have a controller plugged in.

that is a better option, have not checked the spectator option in the aqz plugin yet.
will also decrease dses that will cause disruption in the tourney.

 

[The Star King]

i will help however i can, you can make it mandatory to play on server and not online and be able to stream, and maybe do another tourney with p2p allowed and make it mandatory to record the game, and then you can capture it and upload it to youtube.
i have a commentary channel on youtube, you can check it out at ssb64commentary. could be cool to commentate the finals or something like that.
i do not have much time these days, but will try to assist however i can.

Mandatory to be able to stream, seriously? Just have people record the .krec files.

 

[dandan]

Mandatory to be able to stream, seriously? Just have people record the .krec files.

please read the next line...

 

[The Star King]

I did read the next line?

 

[Dsc]

Can someone make a japanese tier list. I cannot find one anywhere

 

[asianaussie]

pika

kirby
fox
ness

falcon
mario
yoshi

link
dk
luigi
jiggs
samus

i dunno

 

[The Star King]

I think Puff is maybe the worst character in Japanese Smash :/

Ness is not that good bro

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

Ness has a slightly better recovery and much better aerials. He isn't THAT much better but I'd put him below Mario on that list.

Also yes, Puff sucks, worst char.

I would possibly also put Link above Yoshi, possibly.

 

[The Star King]

I thought Ness's Uair was the only aerial that was changed.

 

[ciaza]

Ness utilt in (J) gets loss knockback which is lame.

 

[Battlecow]

You guys are wrong about puff being the worst IMO. Sure, the rest is nerfed (laaaaame), but the lack of DI is far better for her than it is for most characters.

 

[ciaza]

Yeah sure her combo starters get buffed up but it means crap all when you haven't got a decent combo finisher.

Also lack of DI works in the favour of people who use a lot of drills, like mario dair>uair combo becomes a lot more useful.

 

[IYM!]

pika

kirby
fox
ness

falcon
mario
yoshi

link
dk
luigi
jiggs
samus

i dunno

Why Ness is better in (J)?
Why Link is better in (J)?

 

[asianaussie]

link has goddamn buff aerials and u-tilt is amazing, plus slightly higher jumps and recovery

ness has an alright recovery with longer lasting attack frames, less ending lag, etc, plus a downgraded u-tilt (which is actually an upgrade), buffed u-air and smashes, mm

probably more stuff i forgot, smash index has a section with all the differences

 

[IYM!]

Link have better recovery in (J)?
buffed arials?


Why Sakurai nerfed him?!!!


man, now hate even more to Sakurai

 

[The Star King]

Because there was practically no competitive scene, so they didn't really know what they were doing.

They made better choices for Melee NTSC to PAL.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

I prefer the Japanese smash 64 Falcon, I find his combos easier due to his slightly better jumps

 

[malva00]

whoops wrong topic

 

[ballin4life]

Will there be vids?

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I need someone to do something for me.

I need some data.

1) I need to know the exact number of frames a shield can be held before breaking, with no prior damage, from the moment the shield begins to degrade. Checked myself, exactly 900 frames.
2) I need to know the exact number of frames, excluding shield stun, that a shield can be held after sustaining X amount of damage. Breaks 90 frames sooner after sustaining 5%. 18 frames times the number of % damage.
3) I need to know either exactly or roughly how quickly the shield recovers.
4) I need to know, roughly, how much the last move used degrades by.

The first three will help me figure out both the maximum amount of shield, shield degradation, and shield recovery. The last one should be self-explanatory.

 

[The Star King]

1) I need to know the exact number of frames a shield can be held before breaking, with no prior damage, from the moment the shield begins to degrade. Checked myself, exactly 900 frames.
2) I need to know the exact number of frames, excluding shield stun, that a shield can be held after sustaining X amount of damage. Breaks 90 frames sooner after sustaining 5%. 18 frames times the number of % damage.

Hmm... I remember that I figured out 55% damage is needed to break a full shield, assuming the shield doesn't shrink during shield stun. However, if it's 18 frames * the % damage, it should be 990 frames for a full shield to break, not 900. So IDK.

 

[Battlecow]

I am so very, very confused. It takes 55% damage to break a shield? How can Samus' up-B break shields in one go, then? I thought that shield damage was a totally separate statistic from damage dealt.

 

[asianaussie]

A lot of B moves do more shield damage than regular damage...anyone wanna check exactly how much more lol...

 

[Battlecow]

Yeah like pound and stuff.

Is it just B-moves? I think samus' upsmash maxes at 50, doesn't it? And it can break shields situationally.

 

[DMoogle]

Hmmm, perhaps it is by percentage, but some B moves get a bonus multiplier?

 

[The Star King]

I would guess Samus's Up-B gets like a 4x multiplier, since 14 * 4 is 56.

 

[asianaussie]

Perhaps Pound gets a x3 multipler, taking into account stale moves (3x10 = 30, 30x2 = 60)

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Hmmm, sounds about right. *sigh* looks like I have to test for every single move. w/e, I'll set aside a weekend sometime.

Also, if it's 55% to break the shield, 900 frames, means the average move takes off 16 frames or so.

Also, does anyone know of an N64 emulator that actually has frame advance?

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

mupen does

 

[IYM!]

link has goddamn buff aerials and u-tilt is amazing, plus slightly higher jumps and recovery

ness has an alright recovery with longer lasting attack frames, less ending lag, etc, plus a downgraded u-tilt (which is actually an upgrade), buffed u-air and smashes, mm

probably more stuff i forgot, smash index has a section with all the differences

man, is true, Link have better recovery in (J), his Utilt is stronger, like melee utilt and his bomb have less knock back, is good for gimps, but dont so good for combos.

is funnier play with this Link, and the sound of the hits ( punches, kiks) are funnier too