ZOMBIES! Mafia - Who Survived the Apocalypse?

[#HBC | ѕoup]

you're too narrow minded about the situation which is why you probably thought we were now suddenly scum because of a gambit

he'll flip town, like im almost positive and im a bit frustrated if you want an honest opinion

 

[Rockin]

Because if you were town you'd wanna let us have as much info as possible going into the night

You'd be surprised how many times I was actually town and still refused to claim due to

1) How I was considered lynched

2) how I plain don't want to help town thenafter

True, sorry rockin

If you're town though, it really is in town's best interest for you to claim

I GUESS.

but since you guys think I'm scum so bad and not even give me a chance to talk about stuff, then there's little to no need to help.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Fair enough I suppose, I just think it'd have made more sense that if Zen believed that to make it sound like he got shot, that way mac could have waited out the gambit before claiming to see how WATT acts when he's the only dude who visited a claimed player who's been given a BP

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I guess i can tone it down wrt my hard scum read on NL, and it's true other gambits have gone down for equally shotty reasons

 

[Rockin]

I don't buy Rockins town though, sure he may be legit salty his lynch went down so fast but even as a salty VT he'd realize it does him no good not to talk about his wagon, the people on it and who he views as scum / town due to their actions around his wagon, and his final thoughts on the game and the other PR's and actions that've been flying around before his lynch carries through.

what's there to even talk about? you guys lynched me based on fluff. ya never considered my words before, and there's no reason why you'd consider my words now.

in either case, I still refuse to claim.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

You'd be surprised how many times I was actually town and still refused to claim due to

1) How I was considered lynched

2) how I plain don't want to help town thenafter



I GUESS.

but since you guys think I'm scum so bad and not even give me a chance to talk about stuff, then there's little to no need to help.

We gave you a chance though, we asked fro your claim which by extension invites you to talk to us and you got snarky

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

what's there to even talk about? you guys lynched me based on fluff. ya never considered my words before, and there's no reason why you'd consider my words now.

in either case, I still refuse to claim.

please confirm your alignment otherwise people will start thinking you're scum and i'd feel ****ty about being wrong yet still confused

 

[#HBC | Mac]

rockin we lynched you because I roleblocked you yesterday and no kill went through. that's very far from fluff

but like I said i'm sorry, we shoulda given you a chance to defend yourself. Can you give us your scumreads and claim pllzzzzzzzzzz. your thoughts are valuable rockin

WE LOVE YOU

****

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

what's there to even talk about? you guys lynched me based on fluff. ya never considered my words before, and there's no reason why you'd consider my words now.

in either case, I still refuse to claim.

If it's fluff, then is mac scum for what he's claiming ? The evidence we have points to you and we followed it.

Is WATT scum for quick hammering you ? IIRC you weren't a big fan of that slot earlier.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

There's a great deal to talk about and the fact you continue to drag your feet being all huffed up likely means we're not wrong about you being mafia. And we'd consider your words because you have no reason to lie or hold back because your dead other than to stick a middle finger at us

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Hell, if your really town then we get a legitimate town POV in / on this game and it could lead us to the actual scummers.
If your not a scummer and your choosing to not help town, then why do you even keep posting other than to be snarky with us ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

also rockin

You'd be surprised how many times I was actually town and still refused to claim

Implies your not actually town this time.

 

[Rockin]

Hell, if your really town then we get a legitimate town POV in / on this game and it could lead us to the actual scummers.
If your not a scummer and your choosing to not help town, then why do you even keep posting other than to be snarky with us ?

Fair point, as I am pretty much distracting you guys as far as discussion.

This'll be my last post for the day, as I'll be in the room playing some Mario Kart 8. I'll let you guys resume talking, but know I'm still not going to claim, and I'll just let you guys wait till the flip does happen.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I want WATT to talk about the Moria / NL situation. To much sitting not enough doing

 

[#HBC | Mac]

agreed @Wots All This Then? has been lurkin hardbody all game

 

[#HBC | J]

WATT is pretty much A-Okay with any lynch besides his own. Has anyone noticed this fact?

 

[#HBC | J]

Mac Gorf Rake Moira certainly town as far as I'm concerned.

Ash Circus are personal town reads.

That leaves NL WATT and Ran if I got this all right. Mac, if rockin flips scum (he pretty much sealed the deal for himself right?) I think jailing watt is imperative to clearing him, and in turn, OFFICIALLY clearing me and NL. If no kill goes through, we lynch WATT and go from there.

Thoughts?

This is why Gorf is town. Such baddies trying to lynch him all game and say he is the weakest of the PR claims. He's the most town out of Rake/WATT and his claim makes the most sense and he's been cleared since N-freaking-1 if you choose to believe Rake is town.

Honestly.

 

[#HBC | J]

Also I doubt Zen is scum. Me and him secret gambit each other a lot and our methods prove benefitial to town. (I.E. Kittens vs. Domo-kuns mafia was a good one of ours) I am actually more likely to believe No Lynch is town.

WATT should be RB'd to hell and back if Rockin flips scum. If Rockin doesn't flip scum, well, nah we still kill WATT with fire.

Our town-list is almost directly in-synched with Gorf's. We still don't trust Macman/Rake because their reads this game have been god-awful so I am going to be staying in the camp of Gorf/Ashy/Circus/No Lynch. That will help keep me and Sang sane and make it easier to figure out the game.

Plus seriously, Mac, you continuously trying to condemn us when there is 100% proof we are town and what we claim is tunnely. You're a butt this game.

We are WIFOM'ing our item and who we are giving it to, but you can probably guess one of the four names we presented are getting something. We do not know what yet and we are not taking suggestions.

 

[#HBC | J]

The only way Gorf is scum is if he is Mafia Voyeur, but Voyeur+Watcher sounds broken if you had both members of the scum-team target the same person, you would basically be a full-cop on the mafia side. Example:

Ryu (Watcher) + Gorf (Voyeur) both target Circus N2, that would mean he would see Moira (Town Inventor) visting Circus and also see that he was given an item. That would mean they would not only know we are a PR, but what our PR is. That's damn broken considering town only has like 1 PR to block that and that would be Macman's jail which is also our Doctor.

Logically, that combined with a Janitor to completely hide information if when they found out we were the inventor with a NK would be able to create the ultimate fake-claim considering they have the information of who we visited and what we did.

Yeah, Gorf isn't scum.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

So what, Gorf's voyeur role is the magic exception to how the role works ?

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm not talking to you anymore, Rake. You give me a migraine. I'm just gonna keep referring you back to my 2086.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

And I expect nothing less than Circus coming in with good info tomorrow if what your saying is legit

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

How pro town of you J. Glad to see forum mafia hasn't changed since I left

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Plus seriously, Mac, you continuously trying to condemn us when there is 100% proof we are town and what we claim is tunnely. You're a butt this game.

not tryna condemn you, relax. I was just sticking by all the **** I said yesterday about you, joey, no lynch and rockin being suspect because of the Ryu / WATT wagons.

but yea assuming you and NL are town, my reads have been pretty subpar this game, it's probably due to WATTSCUM and the crazy **** that happened on the d1 lynch.

 

[#HBC | J]

How pro town of you J. Glad to see forum mafia hasn't changed since I left

Rake, I am biting my lip because I feel it uncouthe to bash someone in a party game. You are making it truly hard for me to even have fun with your playstyle this game of arrogance and selfish nature.

Whatever.

 

[#HBC | J]

not tryna condemn you, relax. I was just sticking by all the **** I said yesterday about you, joey, no lynch and rockin being suspect because of the Ryu / WATT wagons.

but yea assuming you and NL are town, my reads have been pretty subpar this game, it's probably due to WATTSCUM and the crazy **** that happened on the d1 lynch.

That's the thing, I could honestly just see you having really bad reads this game because everyone does have bad games. Plus you seem to have a tunnel nature which could be combined with bad-reads+tunneling = yikes. If Rockin is scum, you are more than fine to sit in the town-clear pile. If Rockin flips scum, you have to RB WATT. No questions asked.

Though I do not know if you will be killed or not because I am forgetting who goes first in the NAR if the jailer is targetted by the kill by the person they jailed.

This reminds me of an OS set-up.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Nah the jail will absolutely come first, no exceptions. Protects AND rb's always go before kills.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I'm not being arrogant, im trying to talk to you to about what I think about Gorf because Im having a hard time getting to a town read with what he's claiming and because i wasn't feeling one d1 too much, he was a question mark to me , im trying to extend my hand and figure out that maybe im misjudging gorf or what he's claiming, or maybe that im letting what he's said catch me up to miss the opbvious, im trying to get your perspective because your town reading him and Im not, but instead you tell me to shut up or that im being selfish ? Im l;aughing my ass off that you think I'm being selfish for trying to understand your perspective

 

[#HBC | J]

Well that should be settled. Circus will look at Gheb's body toNight. Gorf will target someone obv-town. We will be giving a gift to one of Ashy/Gorf/Circus/No Lynch. Someone should direct Rake this time or we will have another useless NA from him. Macman should RB WATT.

Am I missing anything?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

so how does gorfs result from yesterday fit into alla this

 

[#HBC | Mac]

ebwop: last night

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

What a goddamn joke mafia is. Teamwork and party game my ass. Used to be enjoyable working with town through things and seeing people's thought process but i guess it's too goddamn hard for people to understand people aren't going to see their side of things right off the bat, or to get their head out of their own ass, which im guilty of too.

Well im done.

/replace out

 

[#HBC | Mac]

man why does everyone get so salty when they play mafia

 

[#HBC | J]

Replacing out at this leg of the game is just poor ethics to the game-mod and all the players. I honestly do not get why you are replacing out because I am not talking to you when you burned your bridge to talk to our slot a long time ago. If you are replacing out due to us, then we apologize, but seriously you need to stay in and finish what you started over having Nabe come in and read 54 pgs of the game because that's not fair to him or your faction or anyone.

 

[#HBC | J]

so how does gorfs result from yesterday fit into alla this

Gorf's targetting of WATT N1 and nothing coming from it?

 

[#HBC | J]

People need to understand the difference between in-game anger is not the same as out of game anger.

Sheeeeeeesh. The only thing that is never cool by me is personal jabs.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake stay in por fa
@Moira @ #HBC | Gorf I don't think Rake has been as detrimental / terrible as you guys have been sayin

anyways

nah I meant the kill action on WATT last night

 

[#HBC | Mac]

i'm pretty sure back in the day, ****** would straight up **** all over ppl in mafia games. Talking bout ppls mom's and their livelihoods and ****

but as soon as the game ended, everyone would be buddy buddy

what I'm sayin is ppl need to suck it the **** up and realize it's just a game

 

[#HBC | J]

That does not make sense and I think we need another round of NAs to figure out that puzzle piece. We have time to figure out all the ???'s. The only thing that won't add up is if Rockin does flip mafia. He should not have seen a NK attempt.

And Mac, I think that's because he's pretty much been agreeing with you all game/etc.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Of course everything I've said has been hyperbolized yo there were literally pages of this game dedicated to calling me a douche n idgaf lmao