ZOMBIES! Mafia - Who Survived the Apocalypse?

[Wots All This Then?]

Its only fair i tell you im not enjoying your slot atm. I find you really unaggressive and the questions you have dont feel like Orbo or Dietz questions, they feel like filler fluff that your throwing out for the sake of appearing active and interested. I know not much has happened but i still feel your attitude so far isnt totally townie

Im trying to make headway into this. I might go back and research the early game again. Dietz has yet to get to me on anything so its all orbo thus far

 

[Dooms]

Unvote

I don't want my vote on Ryu lool.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

this i think sparked me, its kinda like you picked two names out of a hat , and then you kinda gave just enough reason to satisfy the questioning you got on it.

What happened there was me seeing nl questioning about voting J and I wondered why him in specific. With that in mind I went and picked two names that would fit into the grouping. Tldr I wanted to qiestion nl and had to fit the question in some way to evoke on j specifically

 

[Wots All This Then?]

this i think sparked me, its kinda like you picked two names out of a hat , and then you kinda gave just enough reason to satisfy the questioning you got on it.

What happened there was me seeing nl questioning about voting J and I wondered why him in specific. With that in mind I went and picked two names that would fit into the grouping. Tldr I wanted to qiestion nl and had to fit the question in some way to evoke on j specifically

tldr i'd probably vote him if i could get a small wagon going purely to force him into posting more and forcing him to get his ideas out, the more he posts the more obvious it'll be which side of the fence he's on

Unvote vote ryu

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I dont remember agreeing with the case, I made my own points but that doesn't mean I agreed or disagreed with it, in what sense do you think I agreed with it ?, and I haven't stated a read because I feel like I should hold it closer to my chest until I see some more posting as well as re read.

uh...

Simply put, I think you are trying to sling mud onto WATT for a weak reason. You don't really have much reason to discredit him from joining your push, and it seems you are trying to force one. To me, him joining you on J would be better since nothing was happening with his Gheb vote. You also say him bringing up Mac/Gheb makes no sense when it does, and especially when he gives the reasoning and you don't even acknowledge it. It would be understandable if he had reasons to hold him back yet he still went on with voting J, but there was none strong enough. (Since his vote was RVS) You also have stated that it was weird that he moved on to J while having stated that Gheb OMGUSED him. Do you think an OMGUS is good enough to stay on a vote when a seperate wagon is forming up for pressure?

Vote: No Lynch

this is a good vote.

i guess you were just liking the fact that ran voted in general?

Idk about this at all.
Ran be posting too m uch Ran bs to be scummy from mypov. Some of it be so ridiculous no scum would reasonably bother. (See: )

but I thought you liked ran's vote? you mean everything else he posted is Ran BS?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

-Masquerain- you've been around today but i don't recall you posting anything of merit. what are you doing

Unvote

I don't want my vote on Ryu lool.

vote someone now

 

[Rockin]

Finally caught up with the thread. appologies to everyone. It's not me being lazy, but more of me being pretty busy. Having a roomate like D1 can do that to you (legit johns XD)

Okay, first off

I don't like how people were so quick to quickly say "______ is townie" for crappy reasons....or just in general. or just using meta. I personally don't like it cause when said person actually flips scum, it goes into a chain of events where we lynch one townie after another 'cause of meta'

While I don't have a solid/lean idea of who I should trust, I would like to say that I'm comfortable co-operating with Ashemu. I like her awareness to the thread/situation. However, I'm not in much agreements with her choice of who we should vote (specifically No Lynch).

lol at people getting ansy at Gheb early D1. It's just poems, guys. Instead of focusing on what he's doing, why not focus more of what he's saying?. Felt like people got kneejerked on how he was posting.

Glad No Lynch fixed up his attitude. I wasn't a fan of him being a crybaby, and wouldn't mind him being replaced with someone else. Seriously, guy needs to learn not everything is going to his way. I've been lynched as town TOO MANY DAMN TIMES cause of similiar reasons and you don't see me causing a **** storm.

I want to also co-operate with Moira (or at least read her as town) for mainly the gif.

I have said things, but they were discreet.

If you need a healthy reminder, I would be happy to oblige.

........HHHHHNGHHHHH...

*ahem*

Speaking of Gheb, not sure why people would want him lynch. Not seeing much of a benefit with his lynch at all. Currently don't see him as scummy at all.

 

[Dooms]

Vote: Ranmaru

Since there are less votes on him, I guess I'll do it.

Ranmaru is the only direction I see that I really wanna push right now. I've already stated what I distaste about him.

Just call me Joey btw. It's more simple that way.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

What does it say about my alignment?

You're aight

ebwopin it


rake why did you like ashemu's post here when the rest of your posts were agreeing with the crappy case on NL?

This is good stuff.

I am trying to find what No Lynch wants me to respond to, but I am coming up short. Also, No Lynch, I do get busy outside of mafia.

Dude yea you're going to need to be more up front about what you're thinking, you're fluffing the living **** out of this thread and I have little from you aside from a willingness to speak to players which only means so much.

You know Macman... you'd get a lot farther if you tried to talk with me rather than continue to talk about me. You don't know anything about me, nor does anybody else in this game except maybe frozen and Ashemu. If you actually have anything to say then talk to me about it but don't give other people **** for reading me not as scum like you do for whatever worthless reason.

You have a really funny way of showing concern for people not properly scum hunting, gee you must really be feeling the intense pressure.

Big Mac, felt that was more rhetorical. In both side's opinion, we feel Gheb is reactionary over proactive. That's all there really is to it.

This, for example, is more content than I've seen you post period. Please, if you haven't, directly address the thread with your thoughts either today or soon so that I'm not here thinking you're spewing bull****, cuz I'd hate to dislike your slot if you're town.

what are you talking about? asking ppl what "gheb is being gheb" means is giving them **** for not reading you as scum?

um what exactly should i be talking with you about? you're my strongest scum lean and i've been completely up front with why that is. if you want to change my mind, actually seem like you give a **** about finding scum which is how I remembered ghebtown would play. not whatever your play here is been. and maybe i'm wrong about your meta / it's changed which is why i'm askin ppl why they think you're just being gheb

If you don't mind I'm going to shamelessly hop on your wagon.

unvote vote gheb

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Umm wow... Mad ninja stuffs and horrible formatting -.- note to future self read from DH's vote count. For now watching motha ****in Sun Ra

 

[#HBC | Mac]

stuff

who's scum?

 

[Rockin]

who's scum?

Currently No one I have in mind. None of them screams or leans scum to me.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

How do I get rid of a draft I didnt post

 

[No Lynch]

How do I get rid of a draft I didnt post

Click the floppy disk. Ashemu taught me.

 

[No Lynch]

You were already slacking, so no I wasn't.

Uh no, pretty sure I've been one of the most active.

???

Sorry, I was trying to post while heading to work. What I meant was: have you done this before with this style

what happened to ryu?

Those were all simply slots that had not been contributing. Though soup was the one that mentioned Ruy. I don't think there's really anything suspect about him.

@rake in your #266 you state that Ranmaru's NL vote was a good vote; in your @268 you agree with Ashemu that the NL wagon is bad. That's what Mac is saying. Please explain. Also please keep your catch up posts to one or two posts. You know that posting style is anti-town.

Let us not forget that we are arguing while NL never even gave a rebuttal to my accusation, and instead chose to ignore my push by calling me town each time I brought it up.

Because I think you're town and your arguments are dumb. Like I can't even follow what your argument even is. Soup found Watt's eagerness to join his wagon suspect after he had just explained why voting Gheb or mac was the route to go. That's all there is to it. How the hell are you still on this after all this time? [Rhetorical, please don't answer]. Give me some input on Rake and Moira. I think Rake is scumbag.

 

[Moira]

Sex-crazed side is finally around to actually post. Going to read up and get some thoughts out.

 

[Moira]

Don't enjoy Moria, that slot has J's noncommittal bs written all over it's posts , and his posts could almost be summed up as " I have directions but hell if i know what I really want yet"

Reading other things but wanted to quick-hit this: How is this scummy? Considering its D1 of course most of the thoughts are going to be "hell if I know" which is true. That is actually a lot of people's reads this Day Phase. This is a weird D1 because no one has really been making blatantly scummy moves. People seem to be mainly voting for gripes with players>that of them being scummy which is something I disagree with. The main offenders I see here is Macman on Gheb for being his normal self makes me scratch my head. Ashemu bandwagoning Ranmaru after joining the No Lynch wagon first is contradictory to what she said previously yet everyone is town-reading her for a reason I do not see. She's as my thoughtful side put it "s l u t t y with her vote" which is very true. She throws it around like it's nothing and just follows whatever wagon seems to be joining steam. The only one she hasn't is Gheb, but this one she actually explained. Her actions make me want to vote her, but her tone suggest she may just be flippant town. My other side left me a note saying that she is a read she does not want lynched, but would like to wait on so I am obliging that for now.

Don't like the Gheb/NL/Ranmaru wagons. Think they are all poorly founded wagons based on information that is just not sound. I feel like starting my own wagon and see where it's gonna go. Just gimme a bit to catch up. This post became longer than intended due to tangents, but yeah.

Needs more sex in this post though.

 

[Ashemu]

sorry for not being a dumb baby with no vote 3 days into d1 like half the game ^_^

 

[Moira]

Oh honey, you know that isn't what I mean.

 

[Moira]

Anyways I am caught up on things. There really isn't much I haven't hit on (as a hydra) that isn't, but Gorf has asked this slot to expand on a few things since we are being a bit vague in our responses. Though we have been posting things so I do not get why he keeps saying we are posting fluff and not doing much. Sang just isn't bold with her pushes like me, but we are the same person in this hydra so I will just take responsibility for that.

I find Sexy Officer not looking good especially if I am reading it correctly that it is Orbo posting. He is asking questions, but they go nowhere. It's like he is phoning in the questions and not really scum-hunting. He also said he had a scum-lean of No Lynch and I was truly hoping he would either vote them or actually go more into why he disliked them, but said that it was more due to Soup. Sure, that's the consensus but what about what Soup did makes him scummy? Then he throws his vote onto Red Ryu out of nowhere and it is truly making me scratch my head. He quoted a post by Rake saying that if a wagon started he would join but what makes Sexy Officer wanna lynch Red Ryu? Is it seriously just Rake saying that the wagon would be enough for him to get going after him? Red Ryu has not done much this game besides early D1. (gut town feel from them, nothing really strong to say he is definitely town) So what makes this wagon the wagon to push?

Don't get Sexy Officer's play this game and seems hollow. I want to see more from them in terms of getting some skin in the game and actually scum-hunting. Until I see better moves from this hydra, I am content with having my vote on them.

Vote: Sexy Officer (Wots All This Then)

So let's try and further this read a bit more. Officer, come into my interrogation room we have some probing to do. Why is your vote on Red Ryu for real? Why are you not questioning No Lynch more to further your read? Finally, what do you make of Gheb's response to Macman?

A thing this girl would like to see is more words from No Lynch on Rake scumbagging it up. I do not see scumRake at this time but Rake being fastidious. I mean, if Officer is scum I doubt that there is a connection between these two slots as scum together based on interactions and Officer blatantly starting a wagon to what looks like to get on Rake's good side.

@ Rockin :

I love that you would more then willing to follow us, but I feel you are being a bit vague in your reads. I know Big Mac already asked you this, but let's say we put a certain type of gun to your head. Who dies? I am forcing a read out of you and I want at least one name that can die if you cannot think of anyone else scummy you should vote them in that post.

@ #HBC | Gorf : If you have a problem with us not giving much, why not question us further to help you establish your read? You get one more time of asking for "more" instead of being specific.

If anyone is around and would like to talk anything through, tag Moira/J and I'll be around for the night.

 

[No Lynch]

Meant for soup, but may as well post here:

J is town fasho.

Ran is typical town Ran. Though he has been able to get past his inactive scum meta a bit (see scott pilgrim). But if he's scum, it will show in the end.

Love Rockin's intro. Thoughts aligned.

Ashemu and Mac are the most pro town player in the game so far. That's not to say they are town however. They just seem to be the most actively leading. I am weary that Ash may simply be throwing ash at peeps though for the sake of makin em look dirty.

Rake is scummy.
Watt is susp.
Gheb is susp.
Gorf is null-to-scum lean.
Ruy and Joe are null-to-town lean.

Frozen is frozen, at least I assume that's why he's unable to contribute.

If Gheb is scum, then I think macman would be scum and vise versa. Their interaction is mad weird.

 

[Ashemu]

yea im kinda being a ass but it's frustrating when people complain about passive play, barely anyone is voting, then rockin enters the thread and is just like "well i dont have any reads lol"

i think your assessment of the way i vote is a shallow observation. yes im jumping around a lot and was on some wagons. why am i scum doing this and not just town whos happened to agree with ppl?

@ Rockin : your post bugs me bc you take a lot of stances on events but somehow come out with no scumreads. if you dont like the votes on gheb and nl, what do you think of the ppl pushing them?

 

[Moira]

Ashemu vs. Zen should fight it out over Rockin. I would love to see the tussle.

Especially since you two seem to have polarizing opinions on how Rockin entered the game.

 

[Moira]

You could be scum throwing any pressure to any wagon you can. It's two sides of a coin. I can see your actions through the town perspective and the scum side. I feel connections will condemn you later in the game if you are scum so I am more than fine to wait it out for you. I agree supremely with Zen's line on you saying you could be just throwing ash at others just to make them look dirty.

 

[Moira]

@ No Lynch

A thing this girl would like to see is more words from No Lynch on Rake scumbagging it up. I do not see scumRake at this time but Rake being fastidious. I mean, if Officer is scum I doubt that there is a connection between these two slots as scum together based on interactions and Officer blatantly starting a wagon to what looks like to get on Rake's good side.

*pats a seat on the couch*

Let's chit-chat, shall we?

 

[Rockin]

Ashemu and Mac are the most pro town player in the game so far. That's not to say they are town however. They just seem to be the most actively leading. I am weary that Ash may simply be throwing ash at peeps though for the sake of makin em look dirty.

Rake is scummy.
Watt is susp.
Gheb is susp.
Gorf is null-to-scum lean.
Ruy and Joe are null-to-town lean.

Frozen is frozen, at least I assume that's why he's unable to contribute.

If Gheb is scum, then I think macman would be scum and vise versa. Their interaction is mad weird.

..................what?

That....that doesn't make sense.

Please explain. Please

 

[No Lynch]

So let's try and further this read a bit more. Officer, come into my interrogation room we have some probing to do.

I died

A thing this girl would like to see is more words from No Lynch on Rake scumbagging it up. I do not see scumRake at this time but Rake being fastidious. I mean, if Officer is scum I doubt that there is a connection between these two slots as scum together based on interactions and Officer blatantly starting a wagon to what looks like to get on Rake's good side.

Good point @ last part. I was thinking their reaction s/s looking at it from Rake's posts. But that vote doesn't seem like something a scumbuddy would do.

As to why Rake is scummy, his stream line of posts are contradictory and hollow. Not an aspect of town Rake at all.

 

[Moira]

Really? I feel Rake is hollow regardless. I would love to see him hard sometime. He's a null-town and more locked in if I am correct on Officer.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

That....that doesn't make sense.

yea it does


not sure why zen thinks my and ghebs interaction reeks of scum/scum... w/e gheb suckered me into arguing with him

still support watt/gheb lynches. feel good about moira. could get behind a rake wagon, still need more from that slot

 

[No Lynch]

..................what?

That....that doesn't make sense.

Please explain. Please

Pro town qualities: Actively posting, actively questioning, actively pushing. A player can emulate pro town qualities, but that doesn't make them town. You have to look at the connections and intent from the long run of things.

 

[Moira]

Macman, join me then on WATT. Your Gheb push is lame for a D1 push. Gheb is easier to lynch later on in the game if he is scum.

+1 at No Lynch's 390.

 

[Rockin]

@ Rockin : your post bugs me bc you take a lot of stances on events but somehow come out with no scumreads. if you dont like the votes on gheb and nl, what do you think of the ppl pushing them?

I think the people voting them are silly, as I feel we'd get no information on either lynch, especially Gheb. At the same time, I don't currently think they're scummy. People sometimes do not have patience on certain things/people's playstyles (like Red Ryue's playstyle), so I take those type of arguements at face value.

Usually on D1, I take a lot of things at face value till D2 and onward. Granted, I'll give off my stances/opinions about people and their mindset whenever the situation calls for it.

 

[Moira]

Hey Rockin, a girl doesn't like to be ignored. We can make some arrangements if you continue to ignore me.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

rockin my suspicion of gheb has nothing to do with his poem crap

@ Moira mmm

 

[Rockin]

Pro town qualities: Actively posting, actively questioning, actively pushing. A player can emulate pro town qualities, but that doesn't make them town. You have to look at the connections and intent from the long run of things.

Right, but you're calling him one of the 'Most protown players' in the game. If you're saying that, then you must think that he's townie without question. It just sounds...pretty scummy to me.

You either think he's town or scum. No back peddling.

 

[Moira]

See, I know if I get your vote, I will also get Gorf's since he is sheeping you for some reason. I want your vote so I essentially have 3 on a wagon I want. So give a girl what she wants, huh?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I will also get Gorf's since he is sheeping you for some reason.

heh, i noticed that

and he's doin a good job of it too cuz it's making me think he's town

 

[Moira]

So let's talk about it then. Why Gheb>Officer toDay?

 

[Rockin]

Ahh, appologies. I'll get to it right now, Moira.

@ Rockin :

I love that you would more then willing to follow us, but I feel you are being a bit vague in your reads. I know Big Mac already asked you this, but let's say we put a certain type of gun to your head. Who dies? I am forcing a read out of you and I want at least one name that can die if you cannot think of anyone else scummy you should vote them in that post.

I understand you want a specific stance from me, but in all honesty, I don't see anyone scummy nor do I currently see anyone who to vote on at all. No one really interest me as far as dieing.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

i didn't claim i liked gheb over watt for today. they can both die

i just rather have my vote on gheb for the time bein