So i've been watching some vids as of late, and man, did zelda get buffed form the E3 build! in fact, she looks really good! but i'm just wondering, which zelda from what you've seen do you think is better, PM Zelda or SSB4 Zelda?
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PM Zelda is better, but since the full release SSB4 Zelda definitely looks pretty ok (or at least is being played by players better exemplifying her stronger points). Obviously it's a bit early to decide on anything definitively to any degree, but I would be willing to place my money on her climbing out of bottom tier for sure this time around.Project m 3.02 Zelda is about 100x better. I won't go into detail, but basically EVERY moves' data is far better than ANY Sakurai smash iteration. All of her a moves are great! Not to mention her specials' have way more uses. Though, I DO love the new FW reappear KO-ness.
Don't expect P:M Zelda to stay that way though, just wait till version 3.5 she's slated for HUGE unnecessary nerfs and changes...
Nairo impressed me, but I realize that players like Nairo and Zhime are on whole nother level; it would probably take me a few seasons of dedicated play to get comparably good. Where Zelda falls on average in the tournament scene is more important.PM Zelda is better, but since the full release SSB4 Zelda definitely looks pretty ok (or at least is being played by players better exemplifying her stronger points). Obviously it's a bit early to decide on anything definitively to any degree, but I would be willing to place my money on her climbing out of bottom tier for sure this time around.
If she had Brawl's usmash, she wouldn't need a KO utilt.i just want brawl up tilt back
With Melee kicks alone she would already be a solid mid tier imo. She gets a better spacing game, approaching game, punishing game, options out of dash... Her kicks were absolutely fantastic.Honestly.
If Zelda had:
-Melee's Fair/Bair
-Brawl's Usmash, Dsmash, Dtilt
-Inescapable Fsmash (I'm alright with it being weakened slightly, since Smash 4's Fmash hits 17% uncharged if all hits connect)
-PM's Din's Fire or, for God's sake, a Din's Fire that doesn't ****ing freefall
-Reduced Nair lag
ALL with her Smash 4 moveset (since Ftilt, Dair, and (situationally, of course) FW are solid).
She'd be easily mid-tier, high mid-tier at the very best.