rageagainst
Smash Journeyman
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Instead of wondering things like "when zelda will be updated" (I admit though, I started that thread lol), take into account more impactful issues like how zelda will play in brawl, with sheik now confirmed. In melee both Sheik and Zelda followed the failed design of "half characters" where each compliments the weakness of the others, and both were nerfed to make a whole.The idea behind it was to play as sheik 1st, rack up damage and then use zelda for her insane knockback. Zelda, for the most part, has several moves with a lot of knockback, the problem was that Zelda had SMALL HITBOXES, almost all her moves had to be SWEETSPOTTED, and she had pre move and after move LAG. Sheik on the other hand had very large hitboxes and had several very nice kill moves, making Zelda fully obsolete.
They didn't need nerfing at all, as there was no "brokenness" of 2 movesets present bacause the transformation was too long to take advantage of the 2 movesets in combos and such, so it was essentially having 2 seperate nerfed chars (they forgot to nerf one of them)---- there are exceptions, like sheik switching to zelda for recovery... i think thats it....
Will they be like this in Brawl or has Sakurai wisened up and will they play more like how Samus/zamus play, as seperate full unnerfed characters. I think Sakurai realizes that TP zelda is a different person than sheik, in that they only changed haircolor for zelda, while all sheik has is a slightly different model but with same haircolor as melee (different hairsyle though). He also states that Zelda turns into a completely different CHARACTER, though this could mean moveset, this could also be referencing to the OoT Zelda, since they were refrenced as the same person in Melee. There is no mention of their symbiotic relationship either, something that was emphasized (in words, not actions) in melee.
I hope this means that both are seperate and full chars but if not, for gods sake make the main character in the duo, zelda, the pants of the relationship, which i think is hinted in that both have the same FS (presumably in zelda's form, i cant picture sheik shooting light arrows, though possible)
Oh I presume zelda playable in the next brawl demo, since i think she is the only character excluded from play other than snake (only thing i can think of is that he didn't have a FS update till recently) and olimar (since he just came out), so we can see ourselves.
I hope zelda is seperately playable, w/out needing sheik, hinted in the buffs shes recieved. All her a moves so far have either larger hitboxes and/or come out faster (with the exception of neutral A and mabye Uair). Her B moves, for the most part, seem stronger too. In the video she used farore's wind as an ATTACK move, and there seems to be sparkles at the end of the move, hinting damage done at the destination. Dins Fire is debated on whether or not it is stronger though, as some say is weaker than in melee, while others say it is faster than in melee.
A new find, Naryu's love, according to the new pic, has diomands that shoot all around zelda, instead of horizontally like in melee. This is a noticable buff as people used to just low jump out of its way before, now it provides cover from all directions. Oh, and according to her video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EPCxdEihxM, people say its faster than in melee too.
They didn't need nerfing at all, as there was no "brokenness" of 2 movesets present bacause the transformation was too long to take advantage of the 2 movesets in combos and such, so it was essentially having 2 seperate nerfed chars (they forgot to nerf one of them)---- there are exceptions, like sheik switching to zelda for recovery... i think thats it....
Will they be like this in Brawl or has Sakurai wisened up and will they play more like how Samus/zamus play, as seperate full unnerfed characters. I think Sakurai realizes that TP zelda is a different person than sheik, in that they only changed haircolor for zelda, while all sheik has is a slightly different model but with same haircolor as melee (different hairsyle though). He also states that Zelda turns into a completely different CHARACTER, though this could mean moveset, this could also be referencing to the OoT Zelda, since they were refrenced as the same person in Melee. There is no mention of their symbiotic relationship either, something that was emphasized (in words, not actions) in melee.
I hope this means that both are seperate and full chars but if not, for gods sake make the main character in the duo, zelda, the pants of the relationship, which i think is hinted in that both have the same FS (presumably in zelda's form, i cant picture sheik shooting light arrows, though possible)
Oh I presume zelda playable in the next brawl demo, since i think she is the only character excluded from play other than snake (only thing i can think of is that he didn't have a FS update till recently) and olimar (since he just came out), so we can see ourselves.
I hope zelda is seperately playable, w/out needing sheik, hinted in the buffs shes recieved. All her a moves so far have either larger hitboxes and/or come out faster (with the exception of neutral A and mabye Uair). Her B moves, for the most part, seem stronger too. In the video she used farore's wind as an ATTACK move, and there seems to be sparkles at the end of the move, hinting damage done at the destination. Dins Fire is debated on whether or not it is stronger though, as some say is weaker than in melee, while others say it is faster than in melee.
A new find, Naryu's love, according to the new pic, has diomands that shoot all around zelda, instead of horizontally like in melee. This is a noticable buff as people used to just low jump out of its way before, now it provides cover from all directions. Oh, and according to her video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EPCxdEihxM, people say its faster than in melee too.
