Would you change the rules?

[Gea]

That's what more and more players want to do. I'd like to bring back the liberal stage list but I agree with Bones that a character should be announced before a stage.

 

[Bones0]

I don't think many people have a big problem with any of the neutral stages.

And with BO5 in bracket and BO7 from semi finals the amount of stages to choose from is also pretty small with DSR in place (even if it's the modified version) so limiting it further with bans wouldn't be very appealing. A ban in BO3/pools might not be so bad though, but I don't think it's neccesary, especially not now that we do let people switch character AFTER the stage is picked

People also *do* have personal choice, how many characters have so definitive worst/best stages that everyone will choose them?

DSR definitely helps so that the person can't counterpick their best/opponent's worst stage twice, but it still seems pointless to force characters to play on their worst stage when a lot of matchups get completely skewed by stages. A good amount of characters have extreme stages. In spacies vs. Marth, I'm sure they always get taken to FD. I've never played a CF that didn't ban FoD. ICs players get to counterpick people to FD all the time.

And while players are alllowed to switch characters to suit the stage, I don't think that makes much sense since people don't practice playing based on stages. They practice playing certain characters, and then learn the best way for those characters to use a stage. No stage bans basically requires a lot of players who use certain characters to have a secondary for every set because they are almost guaranteed to be taken to a stage that is extremely unfair to their character of choice.

Instead of this: Neutral, Huge Bias, Huge Bias, Slight Bias/Neutral, Slight Bias/Neutral
Use this: Neutral, Slight Bias, Slight Bias, Slight Bias/Neutral, Slight Bias/Neutral

I'd rather have two matches on a more fair stage than two matches on two different stages where one stage is extremely unfair (like Falco vs. Marth on FD; why bother playing games 2 and 3?). That's how I see it. I could see how you would value your system if you like stage diversity and are accustomed to playing stages where it is heavily in your opponent's favor. I'll probably try it out myself before I make a real choice because I can see the value in forcing players to adapt to maps that are considered bad for their character (like maybe Falco vs. Marth wouldn't be so bad if the metagame for it was developed more, or something like that).

The way it is allows players to change character in response to the stage. Some characters have more than one really bad stage in a match up, and if they see a certain stage come up, may want to switch entirely.

This is addressed in my rule set. Because the winner bans a stage after both characters are chosen, they can guarantee they will not have to play on their worst stage. It basically makes the games after the first feel like they are restriking, but with one strike instead of two, so that they don't play on the same neutral every game.

 

[BEES]

bring back a liberal stage list and allow 2 stage bans

(comedy option) allow single-character bans

 

[GhllieShdeKnife]

i think FD should be a counterpick